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gryfin

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I fixed your post.
Even that post is another confession. You've sunk to fabricating posts. That's you in a nutshell, lickspittle.

Let's return to the historical record, the Haganah confession:

"At least 55% of the total of the exodus was caused by our (Haganah/IDF) operations." To this figure, the report’s compilers add the operations of the Irgun and Lehi, which "directly (caused) some 15%... of the emigration". A further 2% was attributed to explicit expulsion orders issued by Israeli troops, and 1% to their psychological warfare. This leads to a figure of 73% for departures caused directly by the Israelis. In addition, the report attributes 22% of the departures to "fears" and "a crisis of confidence" affecting the Palestinian population. As for Arab calls for flight, these were reckoned to be significant in only 5% of cases...[78][79][80]
 

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Except it doesn't say what you claim and no matter how many times you moronically repaste it, it still won't. All it says is the Arabs left because of Haganah operations. It has been shown that was voluntary on their part, there is no ethnic cleansing indicated there.

So what?
 

gryfin

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Except it doesn't say what you claim and no matter how many times you moronically repaste it, it still won't. All it says is the Arabs left because of Haganah operations. It has been shown that was voluntary on their part, there is no ethnic cleansing indicated there.

So what?


Unfortunately, it says exactly what I say because I reprinted it verbatim. Hence your frustration.

But, Lets see if the Haganah confession says that the Palestinians caused their own exodus by leaving voluntarily.

"At least 55% of the total of the exodus was caused by our (Haganah/IDF) operations." To this figure, the report’s compilers add the operations of the Irgun and Lehi, which "directly (caused) some 15%... of the emigration". A further 2% was attributed to explicit expulsion orders issued by Israeli troops, and 1% to their psychological warfare. This leads to a figure of 73% for departures caused directly by the Israelis. In addition, the report attributes 22% of the departures to "fears" and "a crisis of confidence" affecting the Palestinian population. As for Arab calls for flight, these were reckoned to be significant in only 5% of cases...[78][79][80]

We now know that is not true. Their exodus was caused by the operations of Jewish terror groups.

Looks like case closed.
 

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Even in his denials he admits the truth.
Take this line from Fuji:
Except it doesn't say what you claim and no matter how many times you moronically repaste it, it still won't. All it says is the Arabs left because of Haganah operations. It has been shown that was voluntary on their part, there is no ethnic cleansing indicated there.
So first he admits Palestinians left because of Haganah terrorism:
the Arabs left because of Haganah operations.
Then he comes up with the non-sequitur which ignores his previous admission:
It has been shown that was voluntary on their part
Which is a repetition of a claim made by intentionally using only one half a sentence, as shown earlier.

Then another jump in logic to a denial of ethnic cleansing:
there is no ethnic cleansing indicated there.
Despite the fact that he keeps having an admission by Haganah pasted in every response for the last week.



All the troll is doing is keeping alive a thread which clearly shows Israel was built on ethnic cleansing, a policy it continues to this day.
I'm sure he thinks he's doing his country proud.
Sad, really.
 

fuji

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So first he admits Palestinians left because of Haganah terrorism:
I don't believe there was any Haganah terrorism anywhere, ever. Do you think lying about what I wrote is going to help you?

Then he comes up with the non-sequitur which ignores his previous admission:
Oh gee maybe you fucking misread the previous statement, huh, genius?

Haganah would capture territory, and the Arabs would leave, because they did not want to live under Haganah jurisdiction. It's that simple.

The two of you keep BLATANTLY LYING and pretending no-one will notice that your quote does not say what you claim. It does not say Haganah cleansed anybody, or forced anybody out. It says that the Arabs left because of Haganah operations, and I have told you why--because they did not want to live in Haganah territory.

Do you two complete morons think that lying about what things say is sensible? Everybody can read it. They can see it does not say what you claim, moron.

Moroever--lying about what I wrote in my own post? Really?!??!

God you are dumb. Dishonest, and dumb.
 

gryfin

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I don't believe there was any Haganah terrorism anywhere, ever. Do you think lying about what I wrote is going to help you?



Oh gee maybe you fucking misread the previous statement, huh, genius?

Haganah would capture territory, and the Arabs would leave, because they did not want to live under Haganah jurisdiction. It's that simple.

The two of you keep BLATANTLY LYING and pretending no-one will notice that your quote does not say what you claim. It does not say Haganah cleansed anybody, or forced anybody out. It says that the Arabs left because of Haganah operations, and I have told you why--because they did not want to live in Haganah territory.

Do you two complete morons think that lying about what things say is sensible? Everybody can read it. They can see it does not say what you claim, moron.

Moroever--lying about what I wrote in my own post? Really?!??!

God you are dumb. Dishonest, and dumb.
The best response to sputter is to confront it with the truth. Therefore:

"At least 55% of the total of the exodus was caused by our (Haganah/IDF) operations." To this figure, the report’s compilers add the operations of the Irgun and Lehi, which "directly (caused) some 15%... of the emigration". A further 2% was attributed to explicit expulsion orders issued by Israeli troops, and 1% to their psychological warfare. This leads to a figure of 73% for departures caused directly by the Israelis. In addition, the report attributes 22% of the departures to "fears" and "a crisis of confidence" affecting the Palestinian population. As for Arab calls for flight, these were reckoned to be significant in only 5% of cases...[78][79][80]
 

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I'm still waiting for grog or his compatriot to explain how it was 'ethnic cleansing' if several thousand Arabs chose to stay in Haifa and gain full Israeli citizenship as did 150,000 others around Israel.

I guess he has no need for useless facts like that.
 

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Yes that ethnic cleansing is continuing yet somehow the Arab population keeps going up. You figure with all the Nobel prizes won by Jews they'd at least be able to implement it if it was the plan.
You actually equate ethnic cleansing with intelligence? It's been a long time since I've heard something so patently ignorant.
 

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I'm still waiting for grog or his compatriot to explain how it was 'ethnic cleansing' if several thousand Arabs chose to stay in Haifa and gain full Israeli citizenship as did 150,000 others around Israel.

I guess he has no need for useless facts like that.
And by several thousand, you mean a pittance of the original indigenous population. Reduced by such massive numbers that they no longer presented a demographic problem, which is politically correct shorthand for saying they don't have sufficient numbers to challenge Jewish supremacy. That was the whole point of the ethnic cleansing. And that's why Jewish Israeli's still talk about the Palestinian problem to this day not as human beings, but as a "demographic problem".

If you want to know what happened to the vast majority of Palestinians, read the Haganah confession:

"At least 55% of the total of the exodus was caused by our (Haganah/IDF) operations." To this figure, the report’s compilers add the operations of the Irgun and Lehi, which "directly (caused) some 15%... of the emigration". A further 2% was attributed to explicit expulsion orders issued by Israeli troops, and 1% to their psychological warfare. This leads to a figure of 73% for departures caused directly by the Israelis. In addition, the report attributes 22% of the departures to "fears" and "a crisis of confidence" affecting the Palestinian population. As for Arab calls for flight, these were reckoned to be significant in only 5% of cases...[78][79][80]
 

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We already know from the other thread that they left voluntarily, and we can see that's compatible with your quote.
 

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You actually equate ethnic cleansing with intelligence? It's been a long time since I've heard something so patently ignorant.
Obviously since those who claim Israel is ethnically cleansing show their lack of intelligence.
 

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And by several thousand, you mean a pittance of the original indigenous population....
Yes, the 'pittance' who refused to listen to Arab orders to leave and instead chose peaceful co-existence and Israeli citizenship over hatred.
 

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Yes, the 'pittance' who refused to listen to Arab orders to leave and instead chose peaceful co-existence and Israeli citizenship over hatred.
Unfortunately, the historical record obliterates that fiction. Jewish terror groups drove hundreds of thousands of Palestinians into exile in order to solve the demographic problem of equality. Nothing upsets zionists more than equality. Why?...because Zionism is a supremacist ideology.

Here is the Haganah confession:


"At least 55% of the total of the exodus was caused by our (Haganah/IDF) operations." To this figure, the report’s compilers add the operations of the Irgun and Lehi, which "directly (caused) some 15%... of the emigration". A further 2% was attributed to explicit expulsion orders issued by Israeli troops, and 1% to their psychological warfare. This leads to a figure of 73% for departures caused directly by the Israelis. In addition, the report attributes 22% of the departures to "fears" and "a crisis of confidence" affecting the Palestinian population. As for Arab calls for flight, these were reckoned to be significant in only 5% of cases...[78][79][80]
 

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Obviously since those who claim Israel is ethnically cleansing show their lack of intelligence.

Originally Posted by basketcase
Yes that ethnic cleansing is continuing yet somehow the Arab population keeps going up. You figure with all the Nobel prizes won by Jews they'd at least be able to implement it if it was the plan.
 
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