Apple Recognizes Palestine

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You are a waste of time Gryfin. Let me know when you have a credible response to post #58.
Sure, here is the Haganah confession:


"At least 55% of the total of the exodus was caused by our (Haganah/IDF) operations." To this figure, the report’s compilers add the operations of the Irgun and Lehi, which "directly (caused) some 15%... of the emigration". A further 2% was attributed to explicit expulsion orders issued by Israeli troops, and 1% to their psychological warfare. This leads to a figure of 73% for departures caused directly by the Israelis. In addition, the report attributes 22% of the departures to "fears" and "a crisis of confidence" affecting the Palestinian population. As for Arab calls for flight, these were reckoned to be significant in only 5% of cases...[78][79][80]
 

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Sure, here is the Haganah confession:
Its pretty hopeless with Fuji these days.
He refuses to accept anything that goes against his personal worldview as fact.
I've put him back on ignore and I suggest you do as well.

Unless you enjoy showing how pathetic he is now.....
 

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Hey grog, just because gryfin agree with you doesn't mean you're right (in fact it might be a sign of insanity).



Gryf, since you're obviously interested in this thread I was hoping for some clarification. You have made it clean that any Israeli Jew is a legitimate target since they may have been in the IDF. Does this also apply to the many Arabs who have served in the IDF?
 

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Its pretty hopeless with Fuji these days.
Mad because you guys lost another argument?

Let me know when either you or Gryfin have a response to the point that saying they left because of Haganah operations does not mean Haganah committed any crime against them. As with the residents of Haifa, they may simply not have liked the idea of living in a Haganah controlled area.
 

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Did either ever respond to the fact that several thousand Arabs chose to remain in Haifa under Jewish control and became full citizens of Israel? I guess they wouldn't though since it shows how fallacious their arguments are.
 

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Did either ever respond to the fact that several thousand Arabs chose to remain in Haifa under Jewish control and became full citizens of Israel? I guess they wouldn't though since it shows how fallacious their arguments are.
And by several thousand, you mean a pittance of the original indigenous population. Reduced by such massive numbers that they no longer presented a demographic problem, which is politically correct shorthand for saying they don't have sufficient numbers to challenge Jewish supremacy. That was the whole point of the ethnic cleansing. And that's why Jewish Israeli's still talk about the Palestinian problem to this day not as human beings, but as a "demographic problem".

If you want to know what happened to the vast majority of Palestinians, read the Haganah confession:

"At least 55% of the total of the exodus was caused by our (Haganah/IDF) operations." To this figure, the report’s compilers add the operations of the Irgun and Lehi, which "directly (caused) some 15%... of the emigration". A further 2% was attributed to explicit expulsion orders issued by Israeli troops, and 1% to their psychological warfare. This leads to a figure of 73% for departures caused directly by the Israelis. In addition, the report attributes 22% of the departures to "fears" and "a crisis of confidence" affecting the Palestinian population. As for Arab calls for flight, these were reckoned to be significant in only 5% of cases...[78][79][80]
 

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Let me know when you have a response to the point that saying they left because of Haganah operations does not mean Haganah committed any crime against them. As with the residents of Haifa, they may simply not have liked the idea of living in a Haganah controlled area.
 

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And by several thousand, you mean a pittance of the indigenous population. Reduced by such massive numbers that they no longer presented a demographic problem, which is politically correct shorthand for saying they don't have sufficient numbers to challenge Jewish supremacy. That was the whole point of the ethnic cleansing. And that's why Jewish Israeli's still talk about the Palestinian problem to this day not as human beings, but as a "demographic problem".

If you want to know what happened to the vast majority of Palestinians, read the Haganah confession:

"At least 55% of the total of the exodus was caused by our (Haganah/IDF) operations." To this figure, the report’s compilers add the operations of the Irgun and Lehi, which "directly (caused) some 15%... of the emigration". A further 2% was attributed to explicit expulsion orders issued by Israeli troops, and 1% to their psychological warfare. This leads to a figure of 73% for departures caused directly by the Israelis. In addition, the report attributes 22% of the departures to "fears" and "a crisis of confidence" affecting the Palestinian population. As for Arab calls for flight, these were reckoned to be significant in only 5% of cases...[78][79][80]
As usual you cannot answer a simple question.

Are former arab IDF members legitimate targets for terrorists?
 

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Let me know when you have a response to the point that saying they left because of Haganah operations does not mean Haganah committed any crime against them. As with the residents of Haifa, they may simply not have liked the idea of living in a Haganah controlled area.
When a terrorist group causes targets a specific ethnic group and their operations are the cause of them leaving, that's ethnic cleansing by any definition.

"At least 55% of the total of the exodus was caused by our (Haganah/IDF) operations." To this figure, the report’s compilers add the operations of the Irgun and Lehi, which "directly (caused) some 15%... of the emigration". A further 2% was attributed to explicit expulsion orders issued by Israeli troops, and 1% to their psychological warfare. This leads to a figure of 73% for departures caused directly by the Israelis. In addition, the report attributes 22% of the departures to "fears" and "a crisis of confidence" affecting the Palestinian population. As for Arab calls for flight, these were reckoned to be significant in only 5% of cases...[78][79][80]
 

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As usual you cannot answer a simple question.

Are former arab IDF members legitimate targets for terrorists?
And what exactly do you define as 'legitimate targets for terrorists'?

That question makes no sense.
 

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When a terrorist group causes targets a specific ethnic group and their operations are the cause of them leaving, that's ethnic cleansing by any definition.

"At least 55% of the total of the exodus was caused by our (Haganah/IDF) operations." To this figure, the report's compilers add the operations of the Irgun and Lehi, which "directly (caused) some 15%... of the emigration". A further 2% was attributed to explicit expulsion orders issued by Israeli troops, and 1% to their psychological warfare. This leads to a figure of 73% for departures caused directly by the Israelis. In addition, the report attributes 22% of the departures to "fears" and "a crisis of confidence" affecting the Palestinian population. As for Arab calls for flight, these were reckoned to be significant in only 5% of cases...[78][79][80]
All refuted previously. Boring repaste.
 

gryfin

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Speak for yourself, you refuse to address the points that refute your hate speech.
It's certainly hate speech, but it's not mine. It's the Haganah confession that documents unspeakable ethnic cleansing.

"At least 55% of the total of the exodus was caused by our (Haganah/IDF) operations." To this figure, the report’s compilers add the operations of the Irgun and Lehi, which "directly (caused) some 15%... of the emigration". A further 2% was attributed to explicit expulsion orders issued by Israeli troops, and 1% to their psychological warfare. This leads to a figure of 73% for departures caused directly by the Israelis. In addition, the report attributes 22% of the departures to "fears" and "a crisis of confidence" affecting the Palestinian population. As for Arab calls for flight, these were reckoned to be significant in only 5% of cases...[78][79][80]
 

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.. you still have not answered the point.
In fact, I've done much better. I've got the confession from Haganah:

"At least 55% of the total of the exodus was caused by our (Haganah/IDF) operations." To this figure, the report’s compilers add the operations of the Irgun and Lehi, which "directly (caused) some 15%... of the emigration". A further 2% was attributed to explicit expulsion orders issued by Israeli troops, and 1% to their psychological warfare. This leads to a figure of 73% for departures caused directly by the Israelis. In addition, the report attributes 22% of the departures to "fears" and "a crisis of confidence" affecting the Palestinian population. As for Arab calls for flight, these were reckoned to be significant in only 5% of cases...[78][79][80]
 

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Except it doesn't say what you claim and no matter how many times you moronically repaste it, it still won't. All it says is the Arabs left because of Haganah operations. It has been shown that was voluntary on their part.

So what?
 

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Except it doesn't say what you claim and no matter how many times you moronically repaste it, it still won't. All it says is the Arabs left because of Haganah operations. It has been shown that was voluntary on their part.

So what?
Finally you concede. They left because of the operations of a Jewish terrorist group.

What took you so long, lickspittle? It was there in the Haganah confessions all along.
 
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