Amerikun Hockey - Ugly

[Ranger68]

So, was it my imagination, or did the Americans not stick around after the game against Canada for the handshake?

How 'bout that wonderful Lady Byng candidate Keith Tkachuk gooning it up in tonight's game? At least the p*ssy could drop the gloves. What an ass! I notice he didn't go anywhere near someone like Kasparaitis. Typical.

The ugly Americans throwing things at the Russian bench?!

And Brett Hull leaving before the handshake?

How many sucks does it take to play on the American national hockey team?
Plenty, evidently.

What a ridiculous display of poor sportsmanship! Looks like they're done like dinner, thankfully, and we can get on with real hockey before long. I hope the Slovaks hand them their lunch tomorrow night.

Disgusting.

 

[scouser1]

Hull's mother is American and he went to school there, also when he was with Calgary he was told by the Canadian national team sorry Brett you are too fat to play for us, so he was given a chance to play for the US team, and feels his dedication to them, cant really blame the guy.

 

[scouser1]

hmm so I was born in a horrible dictatorial Middle Eastern country that threw my parents out and made them refugees, using your logic I should represent that country and not Canada the country that gave me everything I have and provided me the opportunity for a great life

 

[the_big_E]

I didnt watch the game but I didnt expect much from them...they still have half their team from 96 so what does that tell you. Where's Mike Richter???

 

[scouser1]

Yes, thats exactly what I'm saying.

agh!!!!!! no offense Kat but this is the most absurd thing I have read in a long time, you want people who fled countries that tortured them and killed some of their relatives and destroyed their lives to go back and represent those same countries? would you send back an abused wife to her husband saying she owed it to her family, how about children who are abused by their parents hmmm?

one of the greatest things about this nation and the nation to the south of us is the fact anyone can come here and be Canadian, look at the Canadian team marching into the stadium a whole rainbow of colours and religions united under the maple leaf, I believe its a beautiful thing, so are you saying that only WASP types or people with last names like Francois or Leroux should represent Canada, or should we all just represent where we came from and have a completely aborignal team go to the Olympics as they are the only true Canadians.

 

[Ranger68]

Yeah, I'm sure Brett Hull was tortured in Canada.

The fact is, Hull was born and raised in Canada, but knew that he'd have a better chance (or, any chance, at one time) of playing for the U.S., so that's what he did.
He also just happens to be one of the biggest jackasses in the NHL.

 

[MojoRisin']

I agree for the most part with ya Ranger but Hull DID want to play for team Canada and was told nope sorry. He execised his right as a dual citizen to try out for Team USA and was accepted by them. He is now loyal to the team that offered him a chance. I dont blame him at all for that. I do however blame him for being a complete ass! He fits in well on that team however. WAAAAAA. Wherever they are staying I hope the hotel got a big damage deposit. (memories of Nagano)

 

[Ranger68]

So, you ENTIRELY agree with me, then.
Yes, I'm well aware that at one point, EARLY in his career, Hull was denied a chance to play for Team Canada. Well, boo hoo. So, he decides he'll abandon his home country and find some other country he can play for. Well, that's nice. I guess if you can't play, you take your toys and leave. Obviously, he felt no great sentiment for the country of his birth, so I'm frankly glad he left.
It all makes sense when you watch his antics now.
Hull's an ass.

 

[scouser1]

I wasnt saying Hull was ever tortured in Canada, I was merely responding to Kat's response that people should represent the country that they were born in and nothing else, Hull is one of the most outspoken entertaining athletes around today, not your usual yeah we gotta go out give 110%, take it one game at a time and blah blah blah

 

[MojoRisin']

Ranger after reading that i DONT entirely agree. Hull had DUAL citizenship. He chose to try out for Canada first because they are a world power in hockey, unlike the Americans at that time. Logical choice. Hull wanted to play and the Americans (where he was raised i believe) took him on and he's being loyal, plain and simple. He made a choice and i can respect that. What i do agree with is that he is an ASS and im happy he didnt come back to team Canada. So in the end. So to sum up i DONT agree he abandoned Canada, I DONT agree he was a baby about it, BUT i DO agree hes an ASS

 

[The Doctor]

At this point, as far as Brett is concerned, there's no more duality in his citizenship. He views himself as an American citizen and has for quite some time. Too bad it all stems from being turned down for a spot on a hockey team. He's played up the American thing to his advantage and he is one of their beloved hockey players.

scouser1: as far as Canada is concerned we welcome all who wish to represent our country. Daniel Igali is a great example. However, those Canadians who choose to go to other countries because they feel they're not being given the full opportunity they deserve...suck it up and do better. I really have no time for the Brett Hull's, Greg Ruzedski's, the Lennox Lewis' or the Mary Pierce's...OK I can put up with her because she was born in Canada but ultimately stuck it to the US before adopting France.

 

[MojoRisin']

Bottom line is that Hull wasnt good enough at the time he wanted to play for team Canada and was good enough to play for team USA! Cant blame the guy for wanting to play hockey. After all we were his first choice. He took his second choice and decided to stay with them.

 

[scouser1]

something is seriously wrong with the way sports is run in this country if athletes like Hull are more recently Owen Haregraves not good enough to be on Canada's under 17 soccer team but oh wait he is good enough to be on England's national squad, guess where he went.

 

[the_big_E]

Weigh the options...Canada ranked like 86th and never going to do anything or play for England where they are in every tournament, I do not blame Hargreaves one bit. Landon Donovan was also born in Canada..........but I dont want to stray here. Soccer is completely different.

 

[buff]

Let's see, you get cut from Canada's national team, you then make the US team. From then on you decide to support the team that chose you first. What's the problem. He didn't burn a flag or chop down a maple tree.

Do you hear anyone pissing on Stumpy Thomas for playing for the English team. Did anyone piss on Petr Nedved for playing for team Canada. There are tons of athletes in the olympics who play for countries other than where they were born or other than where they live. Some people just want to play. That's what sport is all about. Why do people always have to speculate on hidden agendas.

 

[Ranger68]

Bottom line is that Hull wasnt good enough at the time he wanted to play for team Canada and was good enough to play for team USA! Cant blame the guy for wanting to play hockey. After all we were his first choice. He took his second choice and decided to stay with them.

Obviously, then, he felt no great attachment to the country of his birth, since it was just a "first choice" for him, and he had a "second choice" all lined up.

Most people born here aren't quite so casual about their relationship to this nation ...

 

[Ranger68]

Let's see, you get cut from Canada's national team, you then make the US team. From then on you decide to support the team that chose you first. What's the problem. He didn't burn a flag or chop down a maple tree.

Do you hear anyone pissing on Stumpy Thomas for playing for the English team. Did anyone piss on Petr Nedved for playing for team Canada. There are tons of athletes in the olympics who play for countries other than where they were born or other than where they live. Some people just want to play. That's what sport is all about. Why do people always have to speculate on hidden agendas.

"Hidden agendas"??

Uh ...... okaaaaay.

I'm just saying that any athlete born here who goes to play elsewhere has questionable loyalty to his home country - and that applies to them all.
I question Hull's character.

 

[buff]

I think you're taking it a little too serious. It's a game. They love to play it and we love to watch it. It's not like they are going to war.

Also I was born to two Canadian parents therefore maybe by your estimation I owe some loyalty to Canada. If I were born to a Canadian father and an American mother where is my loyalty supposed to lie.

 

[Ranger68]

I think Brett Hull's an ass, regardless of how he felt about the land of his birth.
However, I think it speaks volumes that he didn't feel any loyalty to his home country and decided to devote his skills to playing somewhere else.
If you were *born* in a country, you should show some loyalty to it, to answer your question.
Nobody's taking anything too seriously, except perhaps your objections to my opinion. And that is that Brett Hull is a jackass.

 

[northerner]

The point is that Hull is a dual citizen. If he had said that he felt more like an American because he had spent more time there that is one thing. But as others have stated, he played for the Americans because he couldn't make the Canadian team.

The Americans weren't being nice, it was just easier for Hull to make their team because they have less depth than Canada. He chose them for purely selfish reasons.

I am Canadian and if I'm not good enough to play for the national team, I will try harder next time and not look for some other country to take me in. Loyalty does matter.