Alec Baldwin shoots prop gun, killing 1, injuring another

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Producer and actor Alec Baldwin fired a prop gun that killed one woman and injured a man on the set of the movie “Rust” in New Mexico on Thursday, Santa Fe County Sheriff’s deputies confirmed.

The film's director of photography, Halyna Hutchins, 42, was killed, and Joel Souza, 48, was injured when a prop firearm was discharged by Baldwin, 68, the sheriff's office said in a statement Thursday evening.

 

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What was he doing pointing it at the director and photographer?
Terrible tragedy. They could’ve been filming one of those “staring down the barrel of a gun” scenes. Brandon Lee, son of Bruce Lee, was killed filming a gun battle scene in “The Crow” from the 90’s. They should really check these “prop” guns safely before filming gun shooting scenes.
 
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This will lead to some charges and jail time I believe. They weren't actors so it would seem he had no reason to point it at them? Unless he was holding it sideways and it went off accidentally and they were standing beside him. How the hell did he manage to shoot 2 people?

I'm sure a trump comment will come soon.
 

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There has to be more to this story, prop guns are not usually loaded with live ammunition.
Doesn't have to have live ammo to be deadly, banks guns use paper or plastic wadding to seal gunpowder into the cartridge, and this wadding is propelled from the barrel of the gun with enough force to cause injury if the weapon is fired within a few feet of the body.
 
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Doesn't have to have live ammo to be deadly, banks guns use paper or plastic wadding to seal gunpowder into the cartridge, and this wadding is propelled from the barrel of the gun with enough force to cause injury if the weapon is fired within a few feet of the body.
Absolutely Brandon Lee died of a massive brain hemorrhage after he got hit by paper wadding - he was standing too close. Usually when a gun battle has to be simulated, Hollywood has retired military personnel on staff to increase the factor of safety. Which begs the question, was Baldwin showing off...if so, his career is over.

In other news, after going 5 + years without work. Tobey Maguire finally gets a role - Producer Brad Pitt has taken pity on him. Maguire got blackballed by Hollywood for fronting a Ponzi Scheme. He turned State evidence to avoid jail time. It almost looks like a reward - his co-stars are Margot Robbie, Samara Weaving and Olivia Wilde. Hugo Weaving's niece became a golden girl after Ready or Not turned a $58 million profit on a $6 million budget.

One of my favorite films.

 
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Weapons use in filming is tightly controlled, there would be someone licensed to supply the weapons and blanks and store the weapons when not being filmed.
So likely either Baldwin was screwing around and it fired accidentally or someone loaded live ammunition.
Its not likely the DOP and director would put themselves that close and in line of fire, even shooting blanks.
Though maybe he was trying some stunt like thing, like spinning around and shooting, and screwed up.
 

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I think it's time to ban real fire arms on movie sets and use fake/replica looking guns and have CGI add in the visual effects of muzzle flash ,smoke and sound in post production.
That's what happens most of the time already.
Talk to a film editor some day and ask them how many times they had to edit out actors yelling 'bang, bang' when they fake fired.
 
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Terrible tragedy. They could’ve been filming one of those “staring down the barrel of a gun” scenes. Brandon Lee, son of Bruce Lee, was killed filming a gun battle scene in “The Crow” from the 90’s. They should really check these “prop” guns safely before filming gun shooting scenes.
Ok but in all fairness. It has been 25 ish years between the two deaths so clearly this is not usual. With all the fun scenes and props and explosions used, the film industry is actually quite safe.
 
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Criminal negligence causing death charges.
Wrongful death lawsuit.
Jail time.
Career over.
 
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Ok but in all fairness. It has been 25 ish years between the two deaths so clearly this is not usual. With all the fun scenes and props and explosions used, the film industry is actually quite safe.
There was a women recently who quit the batman franchise out of safety concerns. More like people are afraid to come forward, afraid of being blackballed.
 

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Alec Baldwin: What are prop guns and why are they dangerous?
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On a film set, a real-life tragedy has happened.
Police say US actor Alec Baldwin fired a prop gun that killed cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and wounded director Joel Souza on a film set in New Mexico. They were working on the film Rust.
Tributes have been paid to Ms Hutchins, 42, while Mr Baldwin is said to be distraught. One local paper found him in tears outside Santa Fe County Sheriff's Office.
An investigation is under way and we don't yet know what went wrong. A spokesman for Mr Baldwin said there had been an accident on the set involving the misfire of a prop gun with blanks.
Such incidents are rare and the news has stunned the film industry. The use of firearms on set is subject to stringent safety standards.
"On the film I recently made, even my plastic gun, I had to sign out, sign in every day," said Australian actor Rhys Muldoon. "So that's why this particular case is so incredibly baffling."

Despite sounding innocuous, both prop guns and blanks can be dangerous. Here's what we know about them.


What is a prop gun?
Blanks are used in the film industry to imitate live ammunition.
The reason they are so convincing is that blanks are essentially modified real bullets.
Modern bullets are made of a cartridge, consisting of a shell holding a propellant powder. When a gun fires, it ignites the propellant, firing the bullet attached to the front of the shell forward.
Rather than using a metal projectile, blanks have material such as cotton or paper attached to the front.
Graphic explaining how blank cartridges are different to live

A prop gun could mean a range of items, from non-functioning weapons to cap guns. But often it means a real weapon adapted for blanks.

Together they add authenticity to productions - fire a blank using a prop gun and you'll get a loud bang, a recoil and what's known as a muzzle flash, the visible light created by the combustion of the powder.
Has this kind of incident happened before?
Yes. You may remember Brandon Lee, the actor son of martial arts legend Bruce Lee.
Brandon Lee died aged just 28 in 1993 while filming The Crow, when a prop gun which mistakenly had a dummy bullet loaded in it was fired at him.
Dummy bullets contain no explosive charge and in this case were used to film a close-up. When blanks were loaded part of the dummy bullet remained in the chamber.
After Lee was shot, the cameras kept rolling. It was only when he did not get up at the end of the scene that those on set realised something was wrong.
In another incident, in 1984, US actor Jon-Erik Hexum started joking around on the set of a television show after being frustrated by delays in filming.

He loaded a revolver with a blank, spun the chamber, put the gun to his temple and fired.
Unlike Lee, he was not killed by a projectile, but rather the force of the blast was strong enough to fracture his skull. He died days later in hospital.
How can blanks and props be used safely?
Hexum's death highlights a problem with blanks - even without a bullet tip they pack enormous power.
Adding to the risk, some film sets use extra powder to make the visual impact stronger.
Film sets usually have strict rules about the use of prop guns. Specialists provide weapons for use on film sets and advise on their use.
"There's basic safety measures on every set," said Mike Tristano, an armourer who has worked with Alec Baldwin in the past.
"You never point a gun, even if it is not a firing gun, at anyone else. I'm at a loss how this could have happened and how it could have done that much damage."
A common shot in film shows an actor firing into the camera and Steven Hall, who has worked on films such as Fury and The Imitation Game, says it only happens with safeguards.
"If you are in the line of fire... You would have a face mask, you would have goggles, you would stand behind a Perspex screen, and you would minimise the number of people by the camera, " he said.
"What I don't understand in this instance is how two people have been injured, one tragically killed, in the same event."
Others working in film wondered why, at a time when gun effects can be cheaply added using computers, blanks are still being used at all.
"There's no reason to have guns loaded with blanks or anything on set anymore. Should just be fully outlawed," tweeted Craig Zobel, an actor and director whose credits include Westworld and Mare of Easttown.
"Prop guns are guns," TV writer David Slack tweeted. "Blanks have real gunpowder in them. They can injure or kill - and they have. If you're ever on a set where prop guns are treated without proper caution and safe handling, walk away.
"No show or shot is worth risking people's lives," he added.
 

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I would be surprised if that happened…. Mind you, I have haven’t heard any fact as of yet. If he was following the directors instructions filming a scene, that’s one thing. If he was jack-assing around the set that’s another.
 
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