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Alberta MP will resign his seat for Poilievre to run in a byelection

nottyboi

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you are delusional

this was a two way horse race won by a neck & your horse would had lost had it not been for Trump
The conservatives had more people vote for them than in any election since the 1980s
and they pickup seat in Ont , BC
Poiliervre has the support of his party

you should far more concerned about Carney delivering an end to the US tariffs and uniting what has become an even more divided country

the top 2 responsibilities of the Prime Minister as per Jean Chrétien
  1. Hold the country together
  2. Maintain the economic relationship with the US
Minority governments rarely go the distant
You have not seen the last of Pierre Poiliervre
Minoritie govts will be more the norm going forward. The NDP will support Carney for quiet a while. Unless there is a scandal, there would be a high price to defeating the Libs.
 

Dutch Oven

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It's the right move...Shows that he has nothing to fear from Pierre.
Carney is greasing the rails for Poilievre to get elected to the House of Commons because he knows that if he got in the way, Poilievre would become the leader of the Bloc Alberskatchewan instead, and would be much more difficult to contend with.

 
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boobtoucher

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how completely illogical and petty of you

81.8%, 75% or even 60% it will not matter, Pierre P will get elected and become sitting member of parliament
therefore it is irrelevant
In his own special little election, in the safest riding in Canada, at a cost of $1,000,000 or more.

What a strong, tough leader. Maybe we can get the Governor General to start cutting up his pork chops for him so he has small bites to eat.
 

Dutch Oven

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Did he congratulate the man who unseated him in his riding???

Listen up, I am here to supply the information.



ps....if you had read one of my previous posts, I wrote Pee Pee was gracious during the debates, especially at the end and conceded graciously to Carney. I further added if he acted this way throughout his campaign, he may have been PM today. If he had not gone to the CONVOY twats with coffee, donuts and fist bumps he may have kept his seat today.
"His riding" no longer exists.
 

Dutch Oven

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At least not for Pee Pee it doesnt. The folks in the riding trounced him on his ass.
Which riding are you referring to? Is it that new riding of Carleton-Liberal Rig Job Annex? Ridings like this should only go up on the electoral map with a biohazard label on them!
 
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JohnLarue

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In his own special little election, in the safest riding in Canada, at a cost of $1,000,000 or more.

What a strong, tough leader. Maybe we can get the Governor General to start cutting up his pork chops for him so he has small bites to eat.

well at least the people of that riding will get to choose their representative
unlike the poor retched soles who live under your evil authoritarian communist regimes
how often do you visit the commie police stations for your indoctrinations or does that foolishness come to you naturally ?
 
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Dutch Oven

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In his own special little election, in the safest riding in Canada, at a cost of $1,000,000 or more.

What a strong, tough leader. Maybe we can get the Governor General to start cutting up his pork chops for him so he has small bites to eat.
If the Liberals and NDP really want to save the taxpayer some money they can always decline to run a candidate against him. That would be a responsible thing to do, given their tiny chances of winning the riding. I won't hold my breath to see if they are capable of such decisions.
 
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squeezer

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Which riding are you referring to? Is it that new riding of Carleton-Liberal Rig Job Annex? Ridings like this should only go up on the electoral map with a biohazard label on them!
The riding that now is served by a new unknown Lib called Fanjoy.

Have a look! Knowledge is power Dutchie.

 

anon1

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look, i offered up a simple factual response that your point was irrelevant
i intentionally avoided attacking you ... initially
but you seem hell bent on responding with personal insults

leave it at that and learn something
I'm being irrelevant and petty by making fun of PP's loss?
Yet it is OK to parade around flying flags that say "Fuck Trudeau" and "Fuck Carney"
 

Dutch Oven

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The riding that now is served by a new unknown Lib called Fanjoy.

Have a look! Knowledge is power Dutchie.

Are you the only person who doesn't know how the riding was fixed for Fanjoy? If so, you certainly don't have any knowledge to share with anyone.

Ironically, you take some effort to help me make my point. It says a lot that a nobody bank-bencher-to-be, as opposed to a star Liberal candidate, could win such a riding over an incumbent of many years with broad national appeal and power within parliament. Redistricting must have made it pretty easy for Fanjoy! I can only imagine who lives in that annex to the Carleton riding - civil servants, CBC employees, recent arrivals to Canada, federal consultants and contractors?
 
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squeezer

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Are you the only person who doesn't know how the riding was fixed for Fanjoy? If so, you certainly don't have any knowledge to share with anyone.

Ironically, you take some effort to help me make my point. It says a lot that a nobody bank-bencher-to-be, as opposed to a star Liberal candidate, could win such a riding over an incumbent of many years with broad national appeal and power within parliament. Redistricting must have made it pretty easy for Fanjoy! I can only imagine who lives in that annex to the Carleton riding - civil servants, CBC employees, recent arrivals to Canada, federal consultants and contractors?
HAHAHAHAHA, why is it every time a Conservative loses the election was rigged? HAHAHAHA, you are hilarious. WOW
 

Dutch Oven

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HAHAHAHAHA, why is it every time a Conservative loses the election was rigged? HAHAHAHA, you are hilarious. WOW
Ah, but this is no theory. The riding was so radically redistricted that even, in your own words, a nobody Liberal could win. That's shameless rigging.

A pee wee hockey convener stay-at-home dad got elected over a federal leader. No subtlety to this chicanery. No matter, Poilievre will be back, speaking daily in the House, and holding the Liberals to account in the media. Fanjoy, on the other hand, will be reading and executing his whip's marching orders without question, saying "hear, hear", and drinking coffee for a year until the next election.
 
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boobtoucher

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If the Liberals and NDP really want to save the taxpayer some money they can always decline to run a candidate against him. That would be a responsible thing to do, given their tiny chances of winning the riding. I won't hold my breath to see if they are capable of such decisions.
Ah, so now it's the other parties' responsibility to bow down and let Lil Petey have his own Super Soft Election Party.

The election would still need to be called, people would still need to cast ballots. And what would stop anyone from running as an independent? More "please suspend democracy until I get what I want" from Conservative Voters.

As for the redistricting:


Nope. The riding got more rural, which should have supported lil' petey.
 
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Dutch Oven

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Ah, so now it's the other parties' responsibility to bow down and let Lil Petey have his own Super Soft Election Party.

The election would still need to be called, people would still need to cast ballots. And what would stop anyone from running as an independent? More "please suspend democracy until I get what I want" from Conservative Voters.

As for the redistricting:


Nope. The riding got more rural, which should have supported lil' petey.
Political parties never HAVE TO do the right thing for taxpayers, and they often don't. But they should be accountable for their decisions, don't you think? Which do you think is more reasonable and responsible, for the Conservatives to find a new leader, despite their leader increasing their seats and popular vote, or the the Libs/NDP standing down in a riding where they haven't a chance in hell of being competitive, in order to save taxpayers (and their own party coffers) some money?

As to your link, I've seen all these arguments. They aren't persuasive, or in many cases even on point. The riding changes were made by committees? Who was on the committees? Who appointed them? Riding changes could benefit the Conservatives overall across Canada? What has that got to do with the specific effect of changes to Carleton? They made an analysis transposing 2021 results to say Poilievre still had a fighting chance. Too bad they made the changes 2 years later and that the demographics of the annexed area were rapidly changing! Typical intellectually lazy media reporting. The plain truth is that Poilievre did not suddenly become unpopular with the voters in his former riding. He was unpopular in the annex to the riding - an analysis the article fails to undertake.
 

boobtoucher

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Political parties never HAVE TO do the right thing for taxpayers, and they often don't. But they should be accountable for their decisions, don't you think? Which do you think is more reasonable and responsible, for the Conservatives to find a new leader, despite their leader increasing their seats and popular vote, or the the Libs/NDP standing down in a riding where they haven't a chance in hell of being competitive, in order to save taxpayers (and their own party coffers) some money?

As to your link, I've seen all these arguments. They aren't persuasive, or in many cases even on point. The riding changes were made by committees? Who was on the committees? Who appointed them? Riding changes could benefit the Conservatives overall across Canada? What has that got to do with the specific effect of changes to Carleton? They made an analysis transposing 2021 results to say Poilievre still had a fighting chance. Too bad they made the changes 2 years later and that the demographics of the annexed area were rapidly changing! Typical intellectually lazy media reporting. The plain truth is that Poilievre did not suddenly become unpopular with the voters in his former riding. He was unpopular in the annex to the riding - an analysis the article fails to undertake.
So the issue is that Elections Canada needed to take special care to give PP a super soft riding, tailor made to make sure only conservative voters were there? Why doe PP deserve special treatment that no other candidate got? Is he that soft? The truth is he cooked himself when he supported the Convoy. The people of Ottawa didn't forget.

A guy who claims to be about fiscal responsibility lost an election fairly, and by a large margin. He then made a backroom deal with another fairly-elected party member to have him step down and hand over his seat, forcing a new election. Telling the voters of Battle River Crow Foot that their vote, their representation is less important than PP's ambition.

The ELECTION that PP is forcing is what will cost money, not that other people are going to run in it.
 
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squeezer

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Ah, but this is no theory. The riding was so radically redistricted that even, in your own words, a nobody Liberal could win. That's shameless rigging.

A pee wee hockey convener stay-at-home dad got elected over a federal leader. No subtlety to this chicanery. No matter, Poilievre will be back, speaking daily in the House, and holding the Liberals to account in the media. Fanjoy, on the other hand, will be reading and executing his whip's marching orders without question, saying "hear, hear", and drinking coffee for a year until the next election.

Dutchie, Dutchie, Dutchie, let me be clear and try to simplify for you. Elections in Canada or the US aren’t “rigged” just because the outcome didn’t favour your preferred candidate. Accusations like that undermine democratic institutions and insult the voters who made their choice.

Riding redistribution happens regularly across Canada through independent, non-partisan commissions. It’s not a Liberal plot, it’s a process meant to reflect population changes and ensure fair representation. If a "nobody unknown Liberal" can win in a new riding, maybe that says more about shifting voter sentiment than about any grand conspiracy.

As for Poilievre, yes, he’ll return to the House, but holding the Carney government to account will require more than rehearsed soundbites and social media clips. And Fanjoy? He’s the elected MP now, chosen by the people of that riding, not imposed, not planted. Dismissing him out of hand before he’s even begun his work says more about your bias than his capabilities.

We live in a democracy Dutchi, so you will have to deal with the outcome and hope Carney doesn't hit it out of the park or your boy will never sniff the PMs office. LOL
 
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