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mandrill

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You are making a case that your progenitors may not have in fact, partaken of the tree of knowledge. :)

Obviously, the story of Adam and Eve requires some interpretation on the part of the reader. If Adam existed in the world before Eve, Adam would have had no need of any sexuality. It is more reasonable to interpret that in creating Eve, God created male and female sexuality in humans at the same time, from the same materials. In that light, the creation of Eve is not derivative of Adam, but rather is a redesign of the human species for sexual reproduction. The rib is only symbolic of the materials used to create humankind. (Of course, men and women, biologically, have the same number of ribs.)

As to the generations that followed, Eve had 3 sons: Cain, Abel, and Seth. While Cain fathered Enoch, that line perished. Seth is said to have fathered many surviving offspring. Seth is said to have married his sister, Of course, human genetics have changed greatly over the centuries. Perhaps birth defects were not so prevelant among children born of closely related parents at that time. Not to mention the whole "God overseeing the whole operation" aspect! In any event, if you can believe in a creator, surely it is not much more to believe that the original genetics designed by the creator could allow for successful procreation among the closely related. Noah and his family are said to be descendants of Seth, and thus Seth is the progenitor of all mankind which survived the flood.

I don't believe the Bible is a text book, but it might have more information in it that you give it credit for. Atheists can say they believe in evolution, but does anyone claim to know what caused the creation of even the first single celled organisms at the beginning of evolution's chain? I don't think so.
If God made Adam in his Likeness with a dick and had not yet made Eve or considered the need for human procreation, God and Adam must have both liked to jerk off. Or bugger lions, tigers, bears and monkeys.

Why else give Adam a penis?!

But that only raises further questions. Did God just make male animals at first? And why did THEY have penises? Was "God's original plan" simply inter-species homosexual polyandry?

Doesn't that make homosexual bestiality the most holy of sexual unions and heterosexual intercourse an aberration?
 

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If God made Adam in his Likeness with a dick and had not yet made Eve or considered the need for human procreation, God and Adam must have both liked to jerk off. Or bugger lions, tigers, bears and monkeys.

Why else give Adam a penis?!

But that only raises further questions. Did God just make male animals at first? And why did THEY have penises? Was "God's original plan" simply inter-species homosexual polyandry?

Doesn't that make homosexual bestiality the most holy of sexual unions and heterosexual intercourse an aberration?
Burn burn
 

Dutch Oven

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If God made Adam in his Likeness with a dick and had not yet made Eve or considered the need for human procreation, God and Adam must have both liked to jerk off. Or bugger lions, tigers, bears and monkeys.

Why else give Adam a penis?!

But that only raises further questions. Did God just make male animals at first? And why did THEY have penises? Was "God's original plan" simply inter-species homosexual polyandry?

Doesn't that make homosexual bestiality the most holy of sexual unions and heterosexual intercourse an aberration?
According to the Bible, God made MAN (whatever the original scripture meant by whatever word it actually used) in his likeness. Perhaps Adam and Eve are Rev 1, not MAN. Perhaps MAN had no sexual organs before the creation of Eve? God/Nature did create some species that reproduce asexually (despite your preference to bifurcate sexuality between heterosexual and homosexual sex acts, the latter having nothing to do with reproduction).

Ah, but you're not really interested in trying to reconcile the Bible with what we understand of the natural world, are you? You think religion, even in the time of Jesus, was always a con. However, even if con men have exploited religion, that doesn't mean religion is a con. Sometimes using the truth can be the most effective con of all!

Good news! We'll all know for sure soon enough! When is the world ending again? 6 years or so according to climate alarmists?

Here's my rationality tip of the day - asking questions is the path to truth, not knowing the answers is not how truth is defined.
 

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You are making a case that your progenitors may not have in fact, partaken of the tree of knowledge. :)

Obviously, the story of Adam and Eve requires some interpretation on the part of the reader. If Adam existed in the world before Eve, Adam would have had no need of any sexuality. It is more reasonable to interpret that in creating Eve, God created male and female sexuality in humans at the same time, from the same materials. In that light, the creation of Eve is not derivative of Adam, but rather is a redesign of the human species for sexual reproduction. The rib is only symbolic of the materials used to create humankind. (Of course, men and women, biologically, have the same number of ribs.)

As to the generations that followed, Eve had 3 sons: Cain, Abel, and Seth. While Cain fathered Enoch, that line perished. Seth is said to have fathered many surviving offspring. Seth is said to have married his sister, Of course, human genetics have changed greatly over the centuries. Perhaps birth defects were not so prevelant among children born of closely related parents at that time. Not to mention the whole "God overseeing the whole operation" aspect! In any event, if you can believe in a creator, surely it is not much more to believe that the original genetics designed by the creator could allow for successful procreation among the closely related. Noah and his family are said to be descendants of Seth, and thus Seth is the progenitor of all mankind which survived the flood.

I don't believe the Bible is a text book, but it might have more information in it that you give it credit for. Atheists can say they believe in evolution, but does anyone claim to know what caused the creation of even the first single celled organisms at the beginning of evolution's chain? I don't think so.
You are making a case that your progenitors may not have in fact, partaken of the tree of knowledge. :)

Obviously, the story of Adam and Eve requires some interpretation on the part of the reader. If Adam existed in the world before Eve, Adam would have had no need of any sexuality. It is more reasonable to interpret that in creating Eve, God created male and female sexuality in humans at the same time, from the same materials. In that light, the creation of Eve is not derivative of Adam, but rather is a redesign of the human species for sexual reproduction. The rib is only symbolic of the materials used to create humankind. (Of course, men and women, biologically, have the same number of ribs.)

As to the generations that followed, Eve had 3 sons: Cain, Abel, and Seth. While Cain fathered Enoch, that line perished. Seth is said to have fathered many surviving offspring. Seth is said to have married his sister, Of course, human genetics have changed greatly over the centuries. Perhaps birth defects were not so prevelant among children born of closely related parents at that time. Not to mention the whole "God overseeing the whole operation" aspect! In any event, if you can believe in a creator, surely it is not much more to believe that the original genetics designed by the creator could allow for successful procreation among the closely related. Noah and his family are said to be descendants of Seth, and thus Seth is the progenitor of all mankind which survived the flood.

I don't believe the Bible is a text book, but it might have more information in it that you give it credit for. Atheists can say they believe in evolution, but does anyone claim to know what caused the creation of even the first single celled organisms at the beginning of evolution's chain? I don't think so.
The biblical narrative also says that they lived a thousand years. You can have a LOT of children in a thousand years.

As for trans and religions- the Christians would burn them, the Jews would stone them(probably, I don't remember) and Muslims would toss them off tall structures or drop walls on them. Why? Homosexual acts are illegal within the Abrahamic religions.
 

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Obviously, the story of Adam and Eve requires some interpretation on the part of the reader. ...
Are you suggesting that the writers of the Bible didn't intend for it to be taken literally?



p.s. Inbreeding doesn't cause genetic defects, it just allows them to concentrate.
 

Dutch Oven

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Are you suggesting that the writers of the Bible didn't intend for it to be taken literally?



p.s. Inbreeding doesn't cause genetic defects, it just allows them to concentrate.
The author(s)/editors/translators of Genesis were not eyewitnesses to creation. There is a lot of room for symbolism/imagery/allegory in their account of the revelation they purport to record. Imagine a child trying to describe a PhD thesis in their own words.
 

danmand

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The author(s)/editors/translators of Genesis were not eyewitnesses to creation.
They wrote about it 5,000 years after the creation, I have heard. LOLOL
 

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Are you suggesting that the writers of the Bible didn't intend for it to be taken literally?
The idea the bible is the literal truth has only been the view of some sects at some times.
 

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In the bible, it says that a man should not lay with a man like he would a woman, so if you do gay stuff just do it in a non-lying position and God is cool with it. That is a literal interpretation of the Bible.
 
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I would caution gay Christians against experimenting with either lying or
non-lying positions at the risk of bringing God's wrath upon them. Christian
God is a vengeful God.
 

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In the bible, it says that a man should not lay with a man like he would a woman, so if you do gay stuff just do it in a non-lying position and God is cool with it. That is a literal interpretation of the Bible.
Didn't say anything about priests and alter boys however so are we to assume that is OK?
 
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The church is in a bit of a stink these days.
Catholics bought social media info on priests and outed them for being gay and using LGBTQ.

Proving a few things at once:
The church is filled with LGBTQ even as they say they are evil.
The church doesn't respect your or anyone's privacy.
Social media is keeping track of you.

 

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