A Plea for Caution From Russia
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Who was responsible for eliminating Trotsky?Twice his resignation was overwhelmingly refused by the Central Committee, including Trotsky!
Here is a simple question for you since 1881 the Russian Orthodox Church has murdered how many people? The Bolsheviks murdered how many million people?Yes, because religion has done such moral deeds in our history.
Since the ROC was not responsible for the Pograms don't try to drag in that red herring.
Your ridiculous ideological blinders have led to your blunders. Read the book. It's a great book and at ten bucks on kindle you really should, since you seem interested in this topic.I'm not going to comment on a book I have not read, but anything comparing fascism and communism as "two sides of a coin" is pretty low on my TRL.
You can't be serious.
And yes, I am serious that it was the democratic nature of the United States which ultimately forced an end to a stupid ideologically driven war. You may recall they had a few protests and it ultimately became an election issue.
In the USSR there was no such remedy to Stalin's murderous ideological killing.
And yes I agree that religion and ideology have both been responsible for massive and senseless slaughter. "Kill them all, God will know his own" had a lot on common with Stalin's murderous purges. Same murderous reasoning. Same murderous result.
Anyone who thinks their belief is worth killing people for becomes a menace to everyone else. Stalin is a good example.
MTM2011 as said given your ideological blinders surely you must be a UT freshman or sophomore.
I don't have the time to teach a course on Soviet history in the 1920's and 30's. However, even you surely are not naïve enough to believe for one second that Djugashvili actually intended to give up the General Secretaryship. Further having held the position for approaching two years he had had plenty of time to appoint his own loyalists to key positions, additionally he was in an allience with two other key members of the Politburo: Ovsei Apfelbaum a.k.a. “Grigory Zinoviev” and Lev Rozenfeld a.k.a. “Lev Kamenev.”
I don't have the time to teach a course on Soviet history in the 1920's and 30's. However, even you surely are not naïve enough to believe for one second that Djugashvili actually intended to give up the General Secretaryship. Further having held the position for approaching two years he had had plenty of time to appoint his own loyalists to key positions, additionally he was in an allience with two other key members of the Politburo: Ovsei Apfelbaum a.k.a. “Grigory Zinoviev” and Lev Rozenfeld a.k.a. “Lev Kamenev.”
Ok mtm. In recognition of the fact that, as communist, you are probably incapable of working and totally flat broke, here you go.
http://www.cbc.ca/ideas/mobile/touch/episodes/2011/02/01/bloodlands/
Not a total substitute for the book. But a good lengthy recorded discussion of the ideas in the book with the author.
Give it a listen, it's free!
http://www.cbc.ca/ideas/mobile/touch/episodes/2011/02/01/bloodlands/
Not a total substitute for the book. But a good lengthy recorded discussion of the ideas in the book with the author.
Give it a listen, it's free!
Ramon Mercarder.Who was responsible for eliminating Trotsky?
I'm not interested in bashing the ROC nor am I familiar with the history of the ROC to any great extent, but I was speaking about religion as a whole. Christianity was nothing until Constantine came along with an army. Modern Christianity was born out of violence, torture and maiming.Here is a simple question for you since 1881 the Russian Orthodox Church has murdered how many people? The Bolsheviks murdered how many million people?
Since the ROC was not responsible for the Pograms don't try to drag in that red herring.
I'm not unwilling to read the book, I'm not uninterested to read the book, it's just that another anti-communist book is not high on my list. Anti-Soviet and anti-communist books come a dime a dozen, and I have about 6 books going right now, with many a more in line.Your ridiculous ideological blinders have led to your blunders. Read the book. It's a great book and at ten bucks on kindle you really should, since you seem interested in this topic.
You may also remember them high-tailing the fuck out of Hanoi. In any case, imperialism didn't stop, they simply moved on to the next victim, like the U$ always does. And I think it is a bit of a joke to speak of US democracy as any type of real choice for the masses of the people.And yes, I am serious that it was the democratic nature of the United States which ultimately forced an end to a stupid ideologically driven war. You may recall they had a few protests and it ultimately became an election issue.
Actually, Stalin put a stop to Nikolai Yezhov.In the USSR there was no such remedy to Stalin's murderous ideological killing.
A cause that's not worth killing for is probably not much of a cause at all.Anyone who thinks their belief is worth killing people for becomes a menace to everyone else. Stalin is a good example.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNO72aCnVr0I'm not interested in bashing the ROC nor am I familiar with the history of the ROC to any great extent.
You can guess whatever you want it really isn't relevant anyways.MTM2011 as said given your ideological blinders surely you must be a UT freshman or sophomore.
And I suppose you are the one qualified for this, right?I don't have the time to teach a course on Soviet history in the 1920's and 30's.
Are you trying to hurt my feelings? I'm mean, nevermind that my salary has little to do with any of this, I can always go to the library.Ok mtm. In recognition of the fact that, as communist, you are probably incapable of working and totally flat broke, here you go.
I don't mind checkng that out. Thank you.http://www.cbc.ca/ideas/mobile/touch/episodes/2011/02/01/bloodlands/
Not a total substitute for the book. But a good lengthy recorded discussion of the ideas in the book with the author.
Give it a listen, it's free!
Since I (Mtm2011) am an undergraduate - my friends in the Young Communist League of Canadas have advised me. . .it's just that another anti-communist book is not high on my list. Anti-Soviet and anti-communist books come a dime a dozen
Now of course had the U.S. decided to drop a thermonuclear weapon or two or three. . . .You may also remember them high-tailing the fuck out of Hanoi.
The Hell it isn't.You can guess whatever you want it really isn't relevant anyways.
You don't pay all that much attention to the none SP aspects of TERB do you now?I suppose you are the one qualified for this, right?
Since I (Aardvark154) am living with my mother - my friends in the American National Fascist Party have advised me. . .Since I (Mtm2011) am an undergraduate - my friends in the Young Communist League of Canadas have advised me. . .
Oh yeah the US is so powerful, it has nuclear weapons. And as I remember, the US did well against Grenada and Panama.Now of course had the U.S. decided to drop a thermonuclear weapon or two or three. . . .
Originally Posted by mtm2011
I suppose you are the one qualified for this, right?
I suppose you are the one qualified for this, right?
Seems like he has paid attention.You don't pay all that much attention to the none SP aspects of TERB do you now?
Aardvark154 you seem mostly interested in me now. I really appreciate that and if assuming this or that about me makes you happy, knock yourself out. It's a forum. On the internet. Does it make you feel better or superior to think you are in some better position in life than me? Here's a news flash: no one cares. Have a good evening.
Aardvark154 seems to have also forgot that the USSR had them as well. I seem to remember Khrushchev getting Kennedy to get nukes the fuck out of Turkey or they would be staying with theirs in Cuba.Since I (Aardvark154) am living with my mother - my friends in the American National Fascist Party have advised me. . .
Oh yeah the US is so powerful, it has nuclear weapons. And as I remember, the US did well against Grenada and Panama.
Yes Danmand as doubtless you know from visiting, the people of Panama and Grenada just hate the U.S.A.As I remember, the US did well against Grenada and Panama.
What? That isn't true!
