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Darts said:
I think the Leafs have already indicated that they don't need Gauthier and have re-signed Spezza so if they sign Thornton that would make 5 centers.

Also, what is happening with Dermott? Why hasn't he signed already?
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It'd be a 4th line role, they can move players around.
 
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Darts said:
Yes, also in case of injuries to other players. Can Joe play wing if needed?
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I'm sure he could and Spezza too...they've played in the NHL for 20 years I'm sure they could adjust...they could also jump up and play on the top line and power play if needed.
 
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Darts said:
I think the Leafs have already indicated that they don't need Gauthier and have re-signed Spezza so if they sign Thornton that would make 5 centers.

Also, what is happening with Dermott? Why hasn't he signed already?
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Spezza could play wing if he was a fit.
 
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mellowjello said:
Even at 41 he's an upgrade on Spezza and Gauthier, money won't be a fit though.
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I agree. I think Joe plays a much grittier game than even Spezza does, and I think he still has gas in the tank to be a distracting physical presence for a year, maybe two. Watching Gauthier lurch around and constantly fall down after every contact made just made me nauseous. If Dubas can swing a few more 'contract offload' trades for some of the can of corn bottom feeders, he may still be able to come up with a number that works for Joe. Thing is: Why if Joe maybe only has one more season in the tank wouldn't he stay in SJ and retire a shark? That's gotta be where he an Marleau team up in the front office post retirement, no?
 
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Darts said:
Also, what is happening with Dermott? Why hasn't he signed already?
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Wondering if Dermott still has shoulder issues that are a fly in the ointment at the negotiating table? He was not the same when he came back this season, and I wouldn't be surprised to hear he played a lot if not all of the season nursing a poorly healed shoulder.
 
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Looks like maybe Dubas got one right...Jeremy Bracco wasn't extended a qualifying offer this year and has signed on with Carolina. Thing is, it's a two way contract. Clearly Dubas and the Leafs aren't the only ones thinking he may just be a really good career AHL player and not really NHL caliber.
 
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John Wick said:
Looks like maybe Dubas got one right...Jeremy Bracco wasn't extended a qualifying offer this year and has signed on with Carolina. Thing is, it's a two way contract. Clearly Dubas and the Leafs aren't the only ones thinking he may just be a really good career AHL player and not really NHL caliber.
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Jeremy Bracco is average...Dubas did him a favour cutting him loose, now he can get a shot somewhere else.
 
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Well you can't assume that. I'm getting off the topic of the thread but I will just make a few points. Black people watch less golf and tennis when Tiger and Serena aren't playing. Does that make them racist? No it doesn't. Most of them just can't identify with what are usually categorized as rich white men sports. Could it be that they only watch when Serena and Tiger are playing because they look like them? Yes , that doesn't make then racist. It's just something they have in common. If Darts can't culturally identify with the NBA because of the cultural difference between himself and the players doesn't make him racist. So when he says he didn't care if it went away because not enough players look like him. It could mean he can't identify with them. Black people generally don't watch Golf, Tennis, Hockey and now even baseball maybe because they don't see enough black people playing theses sports. That doesn't make them racist. All these sports are trying to diversify and add more black players. Not only because it will be better for society but it will get more black people watching the sport. Do you consider black people who don't watch these sports racist just because they would prefer to watch black players. I don't. The same could be true for Darts
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Good post. Seeing as there are a lot of "maybes" in there, I can't really argue with anything you said. You have provided a degree of reasonable doubt.

I have a response to your post but do not want to keep derailing this thread. If you are interested, I can PM you the reply I'd prepared.

Thanks again.
 
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The Toronto Maple Leafs have signed Joe Thornton to a 1 year, $700,000 deal.
 
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Good post. Seeing as there are a lot of "maybes" in there, I can't really argue with anything you said. You have provided a degree of reasonable doubt.

I have a response to your post but do not want to keep derailing this thread. If you are interested, I can PM you the reply I'd prepared.

Thanks again.
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It's up to you I'm always up for a good conversation
 
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If the leafs wanted to bring in two veterans with the most experience playing on playoff choking teams the last 20 years they might have chosen the two best in Spezza and Thornton.
 
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maurice93 said:
If the leafs wanted to bring in two veterans with the most experience playing on playoff choking teams the last 20 years they might have chosen the two best in Spezza and Thornton.
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"Playing on playoff choking teams"
That is so cruel but you know your sports so it must be true. LOL!
 
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UFA Ceci gone to Pittsburgh.

Looks like there wasn't great demand for his services. 1 year at $1.25mm.
 
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With Ilya Miheyev now signed to a new deal worth north of $1M annually, how do you tell Jumbo Joe at $700K he wasn't worth at least the same for 1 year? Can't see anything IM brings to the table as being more valuable...but that just me. :unsure:
 
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maurice93 said:
If the leafs wanted to bring in two veterans with the most experience playing on playoff choking teams the last 20 years they might have chosen the two best in Spezza and Thornton.
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Dan Marino never won a Super Bowl in Miami, nor did Fran Tarkenton in Minnesota, two of the greatest quarterbacks to ever play.
Does that fact diminish their worth as players?
 
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Apparently, Mikheyev's agent said he settled on an amount lower than previously agreed to, to help the Leafs' cap situation.
If that is indeed true, some of the elite players who played hardball with the team need to suck his dick a little bit.
 
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