So are you really trying to pretend he didn't know the family walking around in traditional of South Asian Muslims were Muslims or that it wasn't intentional?
4 Family Members killed in suspected hate crime against Muslims in London, Ontario - Terrorist Charges Pending
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Strange that you have no problem calling out Franky's obsessive support of anti-Israel terrorists but want to go to lengths to deny the likelihood that this was terrorism.
Glad you are so concerned about jumping to conclusions based on what the police said while never shown any issue with people assuming a killing by a darker skinned person must be Islamic terror even when the police say it isn't.
Sorry but the police would be held accountable (in whatever way police are held accountable) if they made the claims about a hate motivation without evidence.
its facts where is the PROOF it was a terrorist act?
oh that's right there is NONE not one bit of info has been released proving it was anything
No hate crime charges, the guy is mentally ill . His schoolmates said he wasn't all there, played video games loud in the middle of night, he laughed when he got busted.
Are you confused why the police haven't hand delivered the case file to you yet?
p.s. I think anyone who intentionally kills someone (without them being an immediate threat) is mentally ill.
IJVCanada is calling out B'nai Brith for Islamaphobia.
I'm sure you'll back that call as well.
Strange how you come into these threads claiming be a supporter of Muslim rights then hop right over to defending forcing some Muslims to live in apartheid rule.
How about Error O'Toole who said this:
So he put the cart before the horse as well??
As usual, you're not getting it. There ARE circumstances where the perpetrator of a crime identifies himself as racially motivated and/or a terrorist. Often, they make that clear by what they say to the victims right at the crime scene and/or what they say online about their intentions. In this case, the police did not disclose they had information of that sort. If the accused actually gave a statement to police that he intended to kill these people because of their race/religion, what is the reason the police haven't said that? In cases where the accused doesn't identify himself as racially motivated or a terrorist it can be very difficult to establish that motivation. It would certainly take more than one day of police work to put that evidence together.
Police need to be careful not to inflame racial tensions when these kinds of conclusions are not indisputable. No reasonable person should trust that police will always get this kind of subtle analysis right. If they have indisputable evidence, they should release it. Otherwise, they may end up making a number of politicians look foolish, and will have provoked strong feelings of grievance unnecessarily. Once people have a sense of grievance, sh#t happens that shouldn't happen.
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The police said they are withholding evidence for the court case, that releasing it could imperil their case.
You can make up stories about what you think they are hiding, but they are still just made up stories with absolutely nothing to back them up.
I know that Wikipedia is your God (says so much about you), but here is a contrary view:
Veltman Name Meaning, Family History, Family Crest & Coats of Arms
Learn about the Veltman Family Crest, its Origin and History. Where did the Veltman surname come from? Where did the family branches go?
www.houseofnames.com
Also, Veldt may mean Dutch or Afrikaans (I'm not sure about that, I'm more familiar with its use to describe African grasslands), but VELT does not. But, of course, you knew that even as you posted. Notice , of all the variations on the spelling of this surname, none of them are Veldtman. It goes without saying that many Dutch have German (Prussian) heritage.
Not credible. It may have come from Prussian Feltmann or something like that. But Veltman is a Dutch name.I know that Wikipedia is your God (says so much about you), but here is a contrary view:
Veltman Name Meaning, Family History, Family Crest & Coats of Arms
Learn about the Veltman Family Crest, its Origin and History. Where did the Veltman surname come from? Where did the family branches go?
Also, Veldt may mean Dutch or Afrikaans (I'm not sure about that, I'm more familiar with its use to describe African grasslands), but VELT does not. But, of course, you knew that even as you posted. Notice , of all the variations on the spelling of this surname, none of them are Veldtman. It goes without saying that many Dutch have German (Prussian) heritage.
The guy is your responsibility.
Another test of TERB logic.
If a Jewish person with the last name Rosenstein emigrates to England, and then "anglicizes" his name to Rose, is the ancestry of his name English or Jewish?
He's Dutch, DO.I know that Wikipedia is your God (says so much about you), but here is a contrary view:
Veltman Name Meaning, Family History, Family Crest & Coats of Arms
Learn about the Veltman Family Crest, its Origin and History. Where did the Veltman surname come from? Where did the family branches go?
Also, Veldt may mean Dutch or Afrikaans (I'm not sure about that, I'm more familiar with its use to describe African grasslands), but VELT does not. But, of course, you knew that even as you posted. Notice , of all the variations on the spelling of this surname, none of them are Veldtman. It goes without saying that many Dutch have German (Prussian) heritage.
If he was German, it would be Feldman. Lot's of Feldmans around. Far fewer Veltmans.
I doubt that many Dutch people have Prussian heritage, as Prussia's a couple hundred miles away. The German province across the Dutch border is Niedersachsen, or formerly the Kingdom of Hannover.
