2020-21 Canadiens Thread

[maurice93]

Looked it up. You were right. Still, 4 or 5, doubt there was much crying and whining back then

Don’t expect FFA to make logical or fair assessments of the Habs — currently or historically.

 

[Fun For All]

I never said Price or Weber’s contract were good moving forward (although let’s get to Weber later because it is very likely not an issue).

Regarding Suzuki — what is wrong with any of my key points. It is not agent or homer speak.
- Making an analysis on 5 games is silly.
- Expexting no progress from a 21 year old season is flawed.
- That a 60 point centreman (his past season) that is not a defensive liability has current market value of at least 6 million

Regarding Weber .. that contract has never really hurt Montreal up to this point nor will it ever likely hurt Montreal because of its structure.
— In his time in Montreal his AAV salarry has been about 7.5 million. he has played close to that level, maybe just a tad lower at times.
- In fact Subban had a slightly larger cap hit and has been less productive overall so they won the trade off.
- He is on LTIR this year so it has no cap consequences.
- Over the next 4 years after this one he is making 6 million total. Not 6 million per year, 6 million total (1.5 million per year). Do you really think he is coming back for his last 3 years to get paid 1 million annually?
— He will either stay on LTIR or retire. There are no cap consequences to Montreal. And if he retires he becomes Nashville’s problem due to recapture.

People always made a big deal of Weber’s last years on his contract but did not logically look at the last 4 years of his deal that pay him nothing.

Price’s contract will likely hurt for a few years. But we could possibly be heading to LTIR as well for the back end of his deal on the basis of mental health.

Noe the above has all been a justification of a few Bergevin moves. I am certainly not on Team Bergevin. But I will take on illogical statements made by haters of the team. Logic always prevails with me over bias.

Bergevin overall has done a terrible job and it is hitting a crescendo this year.
— He has done a terrible job drafting and with player development. This puts pressure on the cap because you cannot fill the roster with younger players who have contractual early year value.
— While he has been good at trades for the most part and made good FA signings recently, it does create future cap hell because none of these contracts are small.
- Specifically to this years team and future years since most of the contracts move forward-
A) He has spent way too much money on wingers. The team currently has 9 quality wingers. The 3rd and 4th line wingers when healthy make between 15-20 million which is ridiculous. The team arguably has 6 top 6 level wingers. Why are they spending so much money here instead of on Centre or D.
b) We have great wingers and terrible center depth. We have two centres who are good NHL players, and probably only one top 6 level centre The 3rd and 4th line centres are not even NHL level players, and you expect them to drive the play of quality wingers?
c) The power play is a mess because they try to play 3 or 4 wingers at a time because there is a lack of mobile D on the team.
d) Let’s get to the defence. The big D worked in the playoffs but it’s not great for regular season play. Too many of this type — Savard, chariot, Edmundson. And Petry is not getting younger or more mobile. Weber’s LTIR opened up cap space to get more mobile. instead Bergevin doubled down on the big types.
Way too much resources at wing and goalie, poor centre ice play and a D that is not mobile or particularly good. It’s a very poorly constructed roster. I’ll use the example of Hoffman.. Hoffman is a good player, but using the resources on Danault even if overpaid would have been much wiser.

Danault has actually driven good even strength play from his wingers especially in 2018-2020. What the hell are you expecting from Jake Evans. What is the point of having highly paid wingers if some of them are put in positions they can’t produce.

Do you have a Coles Notes version of that? I'm not reading such a lengthy post...

 

[The Oracle]

Don’t expect FFA to make logical or fair assessments of the Habs — currently or historically.

Good call........I can't figure out if he is just trolling or really is this obtuse.

 

[Fun For All]

Don’t expect FFA to make logical or fair assessments of the Habs — currently or historically.

I’m waiting for someone to make a logical case on why Guy Carbonneau belongs in the HOF...

 

[chuckertmg]

I’ve never been a Habs fan but you’ve gotta love Mathieu Perreault.
He’s all wheels and no brakes 100% of the time at $950,000 a season.

 

[Darts]

I’ve never been a Habs fan but you’ve gotta love Mathieu Perreault.
He’s all wheels and no brakes 100% of the time at $950,000 a season.

He's also a plus 3.

Habs are missing a few key bodies. Last I looked, Price, Weber and Edmundson (just returned) are absent from the lineup.
Joel Edmundson Returning To Montreal Canadiens After Leave Of Absence (prohockeyrumors.com)

 

[maurice93]

Do you have a Coles Notes version of that? I'm not reading such a lengthy post...

You did read it, realized you had nothing, and came up with the ever so clever TLDR.

 

[Fun For All]

You did read it, realized you had nothing, and came up with the ever so clever TLDR.

You're wrong...I didn't read it and I doubt anybody else did either...

 

[shack]

You're wrong...I didn't read it and I doubt anybody else did either...

I enjoy reading Mo's posts. He's very articulate and has good perspective. Even though the Habs are the arch enemy, I still read his post.

 

[Fun For All]

I enjoy reading Mo's posts. He's very articulate and has good perspective. Even though the Habs are the arch enemy, I still read his post.

I'm tired of over analyzing...I don't think there is anything in his lengthy post that I haven't heard before and isn't common knowledge...

 

[Darts]

Being in the Shane Wright derby is a good thing, Habs fans.

Leafs are 0-4 in their last 4.

Haven't won a game since Matthews return.

 

[shack]

I'm tired of over analyzing...I don't think there is anything in his lengthy post that I haven't heard before and isn't common knowledge...

TBH, I don't follow Montreal very closely, so to get an occasional analysis, Mo's post works for me.

 

[John Wick]

TBH, I don't follow Montreal very closely...

You don't really follow the MTL Canadiens but you still posted more than 60 times in a thread specifically about the MTL Canadiens. Guess that tells us everything we need to know about the value of your posts on this subject.

 

[Fun For All]

You don't really follow the MTL Canadiens but you still posted more than 60 times in a thread specifically about the MTL Canadiens. Guess that tells us everything we need to know about the value of your posts on this subject.

It should tell you how much a thread on the Montreal Canadiens on TERB matters...

 

[shack]

You don't really follow the MTL Canadiens but you still posted more than 60 times in a thread specifically about the MTL Canadiens. Guess that tells us everything we need to know about the value of your posts on this subject.

I don't follow them as much of the Leafs.

Actually, I doubt if more than a couple of my posts in the thread are any type of analysis of the current team. Unlike some people , I don't profess to be an expert on any topic when I know that I'm not.

Almost of my posts here have been mainly teasing Montreal fans. Some trash talking. And posts like this:

Donna Douglas. YUM.

I didn't check but I doubt if I spouted off with any in depth, serious analysis of the current team pretending to know more than you seem to think. Haters gonna hate.

Is this a kinder, gentler thread?

 

[shack]

It should tell you how much a thread on the Montreal Canadiens on TERB matters...

Some people here take themselves too seriously.

 

[shack]

You don't really follow the MTL Canadiens but you still posted more than 60 times in a thread specifically about the MTL Canadiens. Guess that tells us everything we need to know about the value of your posts on this subject.

BTW, it's nice to know that I have dual rent-free residences at my disposal, between you and your little sidekick.

43 pages to scan to tally 60 of my posts. It's nice to know, that despite what you may say, your actions prove that putting me down is very important to you. You definitely went out of your way. I'm verrry important.

 

[Darts]

You don't really follow the MTL Canadiens but you still posted more than 60 times in a thread specifically about the MTL Canadiens. Guess that tells us everything we need to know about the value of your posts on this subject.

This thread was started by one of his two followers. I took a quick look at some of his posts here and all or almost all of them are nothing more than thrash as usual. However, he does have a loyal follower in SS88, lol.

 

[shack]

I took a quick look at some of his posts here and all or almost all of them are nothing more than thrash.

See, that's exactly what I was saying. Even you realise that I hardly posted anything serious in this thread, yet Air Wick seemed to think he was calling me out as if I thought I was an expert on the current Habs when I never proposed that I was. I even said that myself when I talked about reading Mo's post.

Thanks for supporting my position and reinforcing what I said.

 

[Fun For All]

See, that's exactly what I was saying. Even you realise that I hardly posted anything serious in this thread, yet Air Wick seemed to think he was calling me out as if I thought I was an expert on the current Habs when I never proposed that I was. I even said that myself when I talked about reading Mo's post.

Thanks for supporting my position and reinforcing what I said.

And what I'm saying is if you are relying on Mo's post for accurate information then you don't have accurate information...