2016 Camaro

mjg1

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Like it or not, don't turn this into a bash GM thread. The Mustang was redesigned for this year, now it's the Camaro turn. Of the big three muscle, I would go with the Dodge Hellcat, not for the looks, but sheer power.
 
Doing further reading, this models v8 will be more powerful than the mustang and will also offer an v6 and turbo 4 (first for the camaro if I'm not mistaken). With the chassis also based on the Cadillac ATS that was designed to compete with BMW, the ride should be sporty too.

Like you mjg1, I'd go with the hellcat challenger
 
North American muscle cars don't impress me at all. Now, muscle cars from the 60's ..... those are true muscle cars.
 
North American muscle cars don't impress me at all. Now, muscle cars from the 60's ..... those are true muscle cars.

I agree, they just couldn't turn very well, still can't. lol

I do like the Fisker revamp of the Mustang though.
2016-rocket-by-henrik-fis-31w.jpg
 
I agree, they just couldn't turn very well, still can't. lol

I do like the Fisker revamp of the Mustang though.
2016-rocket-by-henrik-fis-31w.jpg

Gotta admit,that's pretty awsome. But why does it take an outside company to make it better? If Ford made a production model of this I think it would sell like hotcakes.
 
I think it's going to be a limited number for production, well over $100,000 (for 720+hph). For the bored rich folk.
Carbon fibre hood, etc, etc... I'm not too much of a car guy, but saw a clip of Fisker talking about it. He strikes me like a very cool guy, too bad he isn't on board with Tesla, which he did initially help with designs.
His daughter looks pretty nice too.

Notice the red Mustang behind him at 0:23, what his thoughts are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO0Uu_Zv8lk
The guy behind the camera was a clown, throwing shoes in with the car? Idiot.

LOVE the turning lights and that's something they kept on from the 60's. Just perfect.
 
I think it's going to be a limited number for production, well over $100,000 (for 720+hph). For the bored rich folk.
Carbon fibre hood, etc, etc... I'm not too much of a car guy, but saw a clip of Fisker talking about it. He strikes me like a very cool guy, too bad he isn't on board with Tesla, which he did initially help with designs.
His daughter looks pretty nice too.

Notice the red Mustang behind him at 0:23, what his thoughts are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO0Uu_Zv8lk
The guy behind the camera was a clown, throwing shoes in with the car? Idiot.

LOVE the turning lights and that's something they kept on from the 60's. Just perfect.

Thanks for this TES, that is one sexy car, Bonus 750 hp:Eek: They won't be giving that baby away $$$$????

 
North American muscle cars don't impress me at all. Now, muscle cars from the 60's ..... those are true muscle cars.
Not me, I'll take the ride, comfort and modern technology of today's top muscle. Not too mention the way better mpg.
 
I really love muscle cars. The classic years look the best and this new redesign of the Camero has terrific lines and an aggressive body stance. I'd love to buy one, only I'd rather not look like a successful plumber.

Damn shame too, love that look.
 
Doing further reading, this models v8 will be more powerful than the mustang and will also offer an v6 and turbo 4 (first for the camaro if I'm not mistaken). With the chassis also based on the Cadillac ATS that was designed to compete with BMW, the ride should be sporty too.

Like you mjg1, I'd go with the hellcat challenger

You're right it's on a Cadillac ATS platform, check this guy it on a test drive. He went too fast into the corner and he crossed his arms!
 
North American muscle cars don't impress me at all. Now, muscle cars from the 60's ..... those are true muscle cars.

The snow was always deeper back when everyone was a kid. Same with muscle cars. I was a hardcore gear head and loved the 1968-1970 era muscle cars.

Except for the nostalgia factor they do not compare to the performance of current muscle cars.

In the 1971 Hemi Challenger vs 2014 Hellcat drag, the hemi Challenger only ran 13.86 seconds at 104 mph. The Hellcat fucking SMOKED him by THREE seconds at 10.86 @ 126 mph.

10.86!!! Off the Dealership lot. You gotta admit that takes muscle!
 
The Ford Mustang was the first pony car, sports-car like coupes with long hoods and short rear decks, which was released as the 1964 1/2 test car, the 1965 Mustang was the automaker's most successful launch since the Model A.


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The snow was always deeper back when everyone was a kid. Same with muscle cars. I was a hardcore gear head and loved the 1968-1970 era muscle cars.

Except for the nostalgia factor they do not compare to the performance of current muscle cars.

In the 1971 Hemi Challenger vs 2014 Hellcat drag, the hemi Challenger only ran 13.86 seconds at 104 mph. The Hellcat fucking SMOKED him by THREE seconds at 10.86 @ 126 mph.

10.86!!! Off the Dealership lot. You gotta admit that takes muscle!

Its amazing how nostalgia affects the looks of the new muscle cars today.
 
The whole old school vs new school muscle shouldn't really be old vs new but to appreciate how far these car have come technology wise while keeping that retro look.

Being a car guy as well, I'm pretty good under the hood as I am behind the wheel and looking at how far we've come is shocking. Granted I was born nowhere near the 60s, buy cars then were much easier to diagnose. Literally pop the hood and you'd see the problem. With safety mandates and what now cars today have changer drastically with computers and safety equipment but todays modern muscle cars are quite an achievement
 
The snow was always deeper back when everyone was a kid. Same with muscle cars. I was a hardcore gear head and loved the 1968-1970 era muscle cars.

Except for the nostalgia factor they do not compare to the performance of current muscle cars.

In the 1971 Hemi Challenger vs 2014 Hellcat drag, the hemi Challenger only ran 13.86 seconds at 104 mph. The Hellcat fucking SMOKED him by THREE seconds at 10.86 @ 126 mph.

10.86!!! Off the Dealership lot. You gotta admit that takes muscle!

Your comparing apples to oranges really. In 20 years the muscle cars of today will be pedestrian.

For me it's all about the styling.Yeah,performance is big to,but come on.Would you rather have a 2015 Vette or a 1963 Stingray with a split back window,or an original Shelby Cobra?
New muscle cars are a dime a dozen. Vintage muscle cars also appreciate with age.

To each their own I guess.
 
The whole old school vs new school muscle shouldn't really be old vs new but to appreciate how far these car have come technology wise while keeping that retro look.

Being a car guy as well, I'm pretty good under the hood as I am behind the wheel and looking at how far we've come is shocking. Granted I was born nowhere near the 60s, buy cars then were much easier to diagnose. Literally pop the hood and you'd see the problem. With safety mandates and what now cars today have changer drastically with computers and safety equipment but todays modern muscle cars are quite an achievement

So am I !! Especially when it comes to straight forward mechanics, but even today I am not over whelmed by the on board computers and emission problems.
 
Your comparing apples to oranges really. In 20 years the muscle cars of today will be pedestrian.

For me it's all about the styling.Yeah,performance is big to,but come on.Would you rather have a 2015 Vette or a 1963 Stingray with a split back window,or an original Shelby Cobra?
New muscle cars are a dime a dozen. Vintage muscle cars also appreciate with age.

To each their own I guess.


Nostalgia is a powerful influence on our thinking.

Funny you mention a 63 Split Window Coupe. I had one about 20years ago. It seems cool to have one but it really was not a nice car to drive. Same with all of the five 1963-1970 muscle cars I owned. The only one I really liked to drive around in was a 1970 440 'Cuda convertible.

I don't like the styling of current Corvettes anyways. But I can't argue with the fact they outperform almost every sub-$300k car on the road today... excluding a Tesla!
 
So am I !! Especially when it comes to straight forward mechanics, but even today I am not over whelmed by the on board computers and emission problems.


Nice thing about the onboard computers and emissions equipment is the fact that they need no maintenance and very seldom fail.

I've noticed that men really still want to tinker with anythinca they can with their cars. I have been on a forum called Bobistheoilguy and it is comical how guys say they can "feel" how much better performing their cars are the very first drive after they switched to some new oil they believe is the best.

LOL!
 
Nice thing about the onboard computers and emissions equipment is the fact that they need no maintenance and very seldom fail.

I've noticed that men really still want to tinker with anythinca they can with their cars. I have been on a forum called Bobistheoilguy and it is comical how guys say they can "feel" how much better performing their cars are the very first drive after they switched to some new oil they believe is the best.

LOL!

Just changed the driver side window regulator on my Infiniti coupe. the dealer wanted 750 and change. The oem motor on Ebay cost me $65 and two hours work. Which I luv doing !!