15 yr old girl rescued from prostitution ring.

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JohnFK said:
Maybe I'll have a beer with you at a Bills game in the fall. :)
PM me when you are coming down. Would be my pleasure to buy the first round.
 

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When the girl is 15, there is no other side to the story.

Joy, you're proof that strippers should be seen but not heard.
 

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Did anyone read the comments that followed the Sun article? Terb (and Fred) were mentioned a couple of times in a less than flattering light.
 
Joy said:
She's saying it's past tense but she still posts under her 4play username.
I know the meaning of empathy and I don't have any for her.

I ask questions, if one can't handle them, they shouldn't be in the business.

Again it's not for you to judge, you have not walked in their shoes or lived the lives that these other women have. You have also not worked in this aspect of the industry so perhaps you should refrain from comment as to what type of lady works with each agency as you have never been through the interview process. Without industry knowledge or experience I fail to see how you offer value to the discussion at this point, you obviously do not know the situation nor have you participated in it, perhaps you should refrain from personal comments.

Second to that you have no idea if Paris was a victim or not, perhaps she herself does not know. It can take people days, months, years to recognize the reality of their situation, you attack on her is unwarranted and lacks empathy. The accused will have lied to her repeatedly, she will need to sort through those lies to see if the situation she was working in was acceptable to her values as a woman or not. Reality and the presentation of it that she recieved are not the same and I feel sad that she will now have to deal with the emotions of having known someone like him and unwittingly participated in it. We do not choose to be victims of people like the accused but we can make choices how we treat those that are victims.
She came on the board under the 4play name in order to offer information that those of us that have not had any direct involvement might not have access to. It is not only commendable that she would do so but it also shows she is not hiding anything.
 
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The LoLRus said:
What a fucking drama queen!!! :rolleyes:

Out of all the years Terb has been around we have one case of this and this guy flips his lid.
Cops are doing their job, suspects are rounded up, case closed
hey homo. ill bet its not the first time.
 

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nathan_wong0 said:
P.S. The LoLRus you an idiot for arguing with Michaelzz..failing to see he has a valid point!
I never said his point wasnt valid, I just had a problem with him screaming his e-lungs out at everyone. Including calling everyone a pedophile while it was he himself who slept with a 15-year old.

You're the idiot if you fail to comprehend all that.
And goodbye, you wont be missed
 

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Kyra_to said:
Again it's not for you to judge, you have not walked in their shoes or lived the lives that these other women have. You have also not worked in this aspect of the industry so perhaps you should refrain from comment as to what type of lady works with each agency as you have never been through the interview process. Without industry knowledge or experience I fail to see how you offer value to the discussion at this point, you obviously do not know the situation nor have you participated in it, perhaps you should refrain from personal comments.

Second to that you have no idea if Paris was a victim or not, perhaps she herself does not know. It can take people days, months, years to recognize the reality of their situation, you attack on her is unwarranted and lacks empathy. The accused will have lied to her repeatedly, she will need to sort through those lies to see if the situation she was working in was acceptable to her values as a woman or not. Reality and the presentation of it that she recieved are not the same and I feel sad that she will now have to deal with the emotions of having known someone like him and unwittingly participated in it. We do not choose to be victims of people like the accused but we can make choices how we treat those that are victims.
She came on the board under the 4play name in order to offer information that those of us that have not had any direct involvement might not have access to. It is not only commendable that she would do so but it also shows she is not hiding anything.
Well said as always Kyra.

Further, we do not know if Paris has already spoken to the police herself or not. I for one think Paris should be allowed to say her piece, (or pieces if she chooses to return) without fear of retribution. She probably has far more knowledge of this situation than any of us on the outside looking in.
 

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The LoLRus said:
I never said his point wasnt valid, I just had a problem with him screaming his e-lungs out at everyone. Including calling everyone a pedophile while it was he himself who slept with a 15-year old.

You're the idiot if you fail to comprehend all that.
And goodbye, you wont be missed

I am confused as to the reason you say he slept with a 15 year old.


You should not start rumors on this.
 

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Angela@Mirage said:
Agreed. TERB cannot babysit the odd asshole who runs an agency. And for the people on here to call agency owners pimps is disgusting. I have worked for some agencies that advertise on here in the last year and I do not recall any of these owners beating the shit out of me and taking my money. It is disgusting to label agency owners in this way. There are reputable agencies here in Toronto. And for those who are throwing the pedophile word around to specific posters is deplorable. I am signing off as well, as I was considering a new handle, but changed my fucking mind as I cannot deal with the pathetic generalizations and name calling that some people spew here. I sopport the TERB 200%. Goodbye. Delete my account.
Angela, the definition of "pimp" is pretty standard. See below:
noun 1. a person, esp. a man, who solicits customers for a prostitute or a brothel, usually in return for a share of the earnings; pander; procurer.

"Agency" seems to be a term that was invented by the "established" pimps to differentiate themselves from specifically "black guys who force girls into prostitution". Both are still do essentially the same thing, so I don't see why the offence. There are pimps who "manage" girls that don't resort to force, and there are agencies who manage girls that do resort to force and violence.
So I don't understand your anger? Also, do you work as an escort or are you now on the management side of the business?
 

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BallzDeep said:
When the girl is 15, there is no other side to the story.

Joy, you're proof that strippers should be seen but not heard.
I'm thinking she'd be the exception, I know quite a few dancers at a personal level and they're pretty damn cool.
 

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papasmerf said:
I am confused as to the reason you say he slept with a 15 year old.
You should not start rumors on this.
Shut your piehole, smerfie!! You're from the States, you dont even live here.
 

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papasmerf said:
I fail to see why you continue to try and sanitize this and use the word AGENCY when referring to someone who might be a kidnapper, rapist and white slaver.
I had already mentioned this, but the word AGENCY seems to have popped up to sanitize prostitution. A PIMP now refers to a black guy who forces women into prostitution. An AGENCY refers to a nice respectable white guy who changes his girls tampons and gives them cold compresses for their pain.

Both are by definition PIMPs, and both have the capacity for violence.

I have some disdain when we use the term AGENCY as if there is some sort of an industry group that polices AGENCY owners to ensure that they are decent people. There will be good Agency owners, and bad agency owners.
There also be guys who force girls to work at agencies even if the agency has nothing to do with the actual coercion. This may not be the case here, but I am sure that it happens.
 

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The LoLRus said:
Shut your piehole, smerfie!! You're from the States, you dont even live here.
I live here, asshat, and I'd like to know what proof you have that MichaelZzzz did what you assert.
 

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Some advertisers check IDs. For example, if an agency wants to list a girl on Eros, they have to send a copy of her ID to Eros, and it better match the photo for the ad.

TERB has no similar mechanism to prevent pimping of underage girls.

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The LoLRus said:
Shut your piehole, smerfie!! You're from the States, you dont even live here.


Ya know I don't but I am a father and damn well hate whaite slavers and their clients.
 
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