Who will you be voting for??

Who gets your vote?

  • Liberal

    Votes: 56 41.2%
  • Conservatives

    Votes: 64 47.1%
  • NDP

    Votes: 1 0.7%
  • Green

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Bloc Quebecois

    Votes: 3 2.2%
  • People's Party

    Votes: 7 5.1%
  • Other

    Votes: 5 3.7%

  • Total voters
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Skoob

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I will say it again, Justin was to soft on the twats!




Oh I see, so this is the first face-to-face meeting since Carney officially got the mandate to represent Canada and actually took his seat. Meanwhile, does Pee Pee even have a seat in the House? Just checking.


It’s hilarious—you keep demanding to know what Carney’s going to do before he’s even had a proper sit-down with your beloved clown. Honestly, how can anyone possibly develop a strategy before meeting the human headline himself?


But please, do go on parroting the same tired lines while blindly defending your clown Trumputin—it’s so impressively predictable, it’s almost an art form. Truly, you make it far too easy.
You know who else doesn't have a seat? Chandra Arya
You know how long he held his seat in Nepean? 10 years
Tell us who has his seat now and why he wasn't allowed to run for it again?

It's hilarious you spent the last few years crying over Poilievre not releasing his platform and now can't answer a simple question about how Carney will "stand up to Trump"!
ps he as PM before the election and didn't "stand up to Trump" and had a meeting with him today and couldn't get a word in at all! Lol!

You've been played...again! Lol!
 
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Shaquille Oatmeal

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Why do gaslighters always accuse the other person of gaslighting?

You did not read the article. I had already showed you and even put that part in bold:

" Liberal MP Adam van Koeverden, the parliamentary secretary to Guilbeault, aggressively pushed back against Poilievre's motion Tuesday. He called the Conservative leader a climate-change denier who threatens the country's future."

So your whole "yes the article opens with that" tactic makes no sense because the article does not "open with that". It's in the body of the article which you didn't read.

Give it up already so you don't keep looking foolish.
I read the entire article.
I said in my very first response that yes the article opens with that, but does not show a direct quote from the MP.
And yes, the article infact does open with that.
It is the very first sentence. Pic below for proof.
Stop grasping at straws and show me where MP Adam said that.
It seems the article is interpreting the MP in such a manner, than the MP actually saying what the article is alleging he said.
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Shaquille Oatmeal

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Poilievre was the reason why Trudeau was tanking because he was calling him out contantly on his failed policies and especially the carbon tax. He even requested a "carbon tax election" ffs.
Liberals decided to support Carney even though he adopted many Conservative policies. He fooled them into thinking he would "stand up for Canada" and he sucked them in.
Trump likes Carney much more than Poilievre. Tell us why?
So you ignored the video I posted where Trump said that his views align with Pierre?
Pierre wasn't the reason Trudeau was tanking.
Are you saying Trudeau was doing such a great job and Pierre single handedly took him down? lmfao.
Trudeau tanked because of his own actions.
Pierre just capitalized on sloganeering and MAGA-lite messaging.
Until of course Trump ruined it for him.
And Carney's platform is not the conservative platform.
It is his own.
After the shellacking this election this is the new conservative mental gymnastics I guess.
If the Liberals do well, it is because they copied the conservatives.
If the Liberals don't do well, it is because it is still the Trudeau party. lmfao.
 

Skoob

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I read the entire article.
I said in my very first response that yes the article opens with that, but does not show a direct quote from the MP.
And yes, the article infact does open with that.
It is the very first sentence. Pic below for proof.
Stop grasping at straws and show me where MP Adam said that.
It seems the article is interpreting the MP in such a manner, than the MP actually saying what the article is alleging he said.
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Are you really that lazy? You don't believe what the CBC posted about what he said?
How about the actual notes from the House of Commons then?



Mr. Adam van Koeverden: Mr. Speaker, even still, the Conservative caucus of climate change deniers is heckling over there. I know Conservatives do not believe in climate change
Mr. Adam van Koeverden:
Mr. Speaker, that member is one of the most vociferous climate change deniers in the House of Commons.

https://www.ourcommons.ca/documentviewer/en/44-1/house/sitting-296/hansard


Are you done with your distraction yet? Or do you just like looking foolish?
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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Mr. Adam van Koeverden: Mr. Speaker, even still, the Conservative caucus of climate change deniers is heckling over there. I know Conservatives do not believe in climate change
That is what I said in my first post!
He appears to call conservatives climate change deniers in general, but to be fair, a lot of them are.
I did not see him call Pierre a climate change denier as you alleged.
Even your post does not prove it to be so.
 

Skoob

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So you ignored the video I posted where Trump said that his views align with Pierre?
Pierre wasn't the reason Trudeau was tanking.
Are you saying Trudeau was doing such a great job and Pierre single handedly took him down? lmfao.
Trudeau tanked because of his own actions.
Pierre just capitalized on sloganeering and MAGA-lite messaging.
Until of course Trump ruined it for him.
And Carney's platform is not the conservative platform.
It is his own.
After the shellacking this election this is the new conservative mental gymnastics I guess.
If the Liberals do well, it is because they copied the conservatives.
If the Liberals don't do well, it is because it is still the Trudeau party. lmfao.
Shallacking? By having the largest opposition in decades? That's your definition of shellacking?

I've listed all the similarities between their platforms already. You keep ignoring it because it doesn't jive with your brainwashing.

Poilievre wanted a carbon tax election...Trudeau didn't give him one. So yes, that was Trudeau's action.
Poilievre has been campaigning on the same policies for years, nothing changed on his side.

Trump just liked Carney more. Liberal supporters didn't believe that and thought it was a ploy.

He made the comment about Poilievre on January 6th...Carney wasn't on his radar yet. Once he was, he really liked Carney and it looks like he got what he wanted.

Tell me honestly...why would Trump prefer Carney over Poilievre and why were Liberals fooled?
 
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squeezer

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You know who else doesn't have a seat? Chandra Arya
You know how long he held his seat in Nepean? 10 years
Tell us who has his seat now and why he wasn't allowed to run for it again?

It's hilarious you spent the last few years crying over Poilievre not releasing his platform and now can't answer a simple question about how Carney will "stand up to Trump"!
ps he as PM before the election and didn't "stand up to Trump" and had a meeting with him today and couldn't get a word in at all! Lol!

You've been played...again! Lol!

Chandra? Oh, come on—give me a freaking break. Of course he was replaced. That seat was cleared for Carney, the incoming PM who just bulldozed right past your guy, Mr. Perpetually Platformless. It’s not betrayal—it’s called an upgrade.

Let’s talk about Trumputin the clown—the guy you still seem to defend like he’s the second coming of Churchill. Remember how much he loathed Poilievre? Treated him like a mosquito buzzing around Mar-a-Lago. But when he saw Carney? Suddenly the tone changed. That wasn't disdain—that was respect. Maybe even intimidation. Trump knows Carney actually understands how economies work beyond shouting “low taxes” into a microphone.

Seriously, the irony of you mocking people for asking about Trump when your guy couldn’t release a platform for years is hilarious. Pee Pee ducked every meaningful question, served up vibes instead of policies, and you still backed him like he was delivering the Sermon on the Mount.

So yeah—someone got played. Again. Maybe next time don’t put your chips on the guy whose entire campaign was just “I’m angry, vote for me.” while he's serving coffee and donuts to twats illegally occupying a city and a bridge.
 

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Lets just hope its the end of populism in Canada.
Though we still have DoFo pretending to be trump here.
Conservative populism is the way of the future. If we don't start to understand and embrace it, the world as we know it will collapse.
Oh and Dougie is in no way shape or form a conservative populist, let alone a conservative. He's a disgrace.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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Shallacking? By having the largest opposition in decades? That's your definition of shellacking?

I've listed all the similarities between their platforms already. You keep ignoring it because it doesn't jive with your brainwashing.

Poilievre wanted a carbon tax election...Trudeau didn't give him one. So yes, that was Trudeau's action.
Poilievre has been campaigning on the same policies for years, nothing changed on his side.

Trump just liked Carney more. Liberal supporters didn't believe that and thought it was a ploy.

He made the comment about Poilievre on January 6th...Carney wasn't on his radar yet. Once he was, he really liked Carney and it looks like he got what he wanted.

Tell me honestly...why would Trump prefer Carney over Poilievre and why were Liberals fooled?
The largest opposition is just some NDP and Liberal ridings going to the cons and yes that is an accomplishment.
But blowing a 20+ point lead within 6 weeks, with the leader of the party losing his own seat he held for 21 years is a shellacking.
Similarities exist because the conservatives took the same positions as the Liberals on many issues, mostly relating to tariff response.
You can only do so much with tariff response anyway.
The only policy where Trudeau and Pierre differed on, but Carney agreed with, was the carbon tax.
Even so not so much for increasing mining of natural resources but to do away with a tax that was ineffective and politically unhelpful.
So it wasn't that much of an alignment.
So Carney's policies were unique and his own.
Nothing to do with the conservative platform.
The conservative platform was released after the Liberal platform too, so if anyone copied anything, it was the cons.
Trump clearly said in January when Pierre's chances were looking great, that he liked him.
When the tide started turning in Carney's favour he pivoted.
Of course he did because that is Trump.
He just wanted to pretend to be the king maker but his opinions on Canadian candidates were a non-factor.
Canadians chose Carney because Pierre was pushing MAGA-lite and when faced with a real issue (tariffs), he came across as feeble and unable to deal with Trump.
 
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Shaquille Oatmeal

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Conservative populism is the way of the future. If we don't start to understand and embrace it, the world as we know it will collapse.
Well, then be prepared for a 5th Liberal term.
The Liberals have and will be admitting a grand total of 4.6M permanent residents until 2027. (2015 to 2027).
3 years for citizenship.
So you do the math on new voters.
New immigrants are more likely to vote Liberal.
This election showed you that conservative populism aka Nazism aka MAGA or MAGA-lite, lost Pierre his own seat that he held for 21 years.
So you tell me how well it is going to work out for conservative populism in the future.
Even as a Liberal voter one might consider that too much of Liberal rule without change lol.
So conservatives need to go back to being regular conservatives.
 

Skoob

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That is what I said in my first post!
He appears to call conservatives climate change deniers in general, but to be fair, a lot of them are.
I did not see him call Pierre a climate change denier as you alleged.
Even your post does not prove it to be so.
Why on earth are you tap dancing with semantics here?

Is Poilievre not a Conservative leading the party in parliament where these discussions and accusations occur? Someone responding to him and directing these accusations are not directing them to him?????? OMFG you are desperate.

Have you done any searches for the amount of times these accusations have been thrown?

If you recall, I said Liberals called people climate change deniers if they didn't support the carbon tax...I proved that to you.

Stop tap dancing and looking foolish.
 
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Skoob

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Chandra? Oh, come on—give me a freaking break. Of course he was replaced. That seat was cleared for Carney, the incoming PM who just bulldozed right past your guy, Mr. Perpetually Platformless. It’s not betrayal—it’s called an upgrade.

Let’s talk about Trumputin the clown—the guy you still seem to defend like he’s the second coming of Churchill. Remember how much he loathed Poilievre? Treated him like a mosquito buzzing around Mar-a-Lago. But when he saw Carney? Suddenly the tone changed. That wasn't disdain—that was respect. Maybe even intimidation. Trump knows Carney actually understands how economies work beyond shouting “low taxes” into a microphone.

Seriously, the irony of you mocking people for asking about Trump when your guy couldn’t release a platform for years is hilarious. Pee Pee ducked every meaningful question, served up vibes instead of policies, and you still backed him like he was delivering the Sermon on the Mount.

So yeah—someone got played. Again. Maybe next time don’t put your chips on the guy whose entire campaign was just “I’m angry, vote for me.” while he's serving coffee and donuts to twats illegally occupying a city and a bridge.
He was replaced by a white guy. Where's the outrage? Or is being racist now ok because it's by the political person you prefer? Hmmmm...I'll let you sort out your hypocrisy on that one.

Trump loves Carney.

Liberal voters were convinced he didn't. Because that would be bad.

Trump got his guy. You were fooled.

Any idea why Trump would love him over Poilievre and why Liberal supporters would think that would be a good thing?
 
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Is Poilievre not a Conservative leading the party in parliament where these discussions and accusations occur? Someone responding to him and directing these accusations are not directing them to him?????? OMFG you are desperate.
Was he responding to him?
Check your notes you posted.
He wasn't even responding to Pierre.
He was responding to Ted Falk.
I dont know about Ted Falk or his positions on climate change but it does not matter.
Many conservatives are climate change deniers, but a little political hyperbole and name calling is expected.
Didn't Pierre call Trudeau a 'Wacko' and get ejected from the house? Same thing.
 

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Conservative populism is the way of the future. If we don't start to understand and embrace it, the world as we know it will collapse.
Oh and Dougie is in no way shape or form a conservative populist, let alone a conservative. He's a disgrace.
Holy shit, I just spit my lemon water all over my laptop laughing!!! LMFAO
 

squeezer

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He was replaced by a white guy. Where's the outrage? Or is being racist now ok because it's by the political person you prefer? Hmmmm...I'll let you sort out your hypocrisy on that one.

Trump loves Carney.

Liberal voters were convinced he didn't. Because that would be bad.

Trump got his guy. You were fooled.

Any idea why Trump would love him over Poilievre and why Liberal supporters would think that would be a good thing?
Do you ever get anything right??? I'm not even going to answer this time because it's a waste of time. Go away!
 

Skoob

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Was he responding to him?
Check your notes you posted.
He wasn't even responding to Pierre.
He was responding to Ted Falk.
I dont know about Ted Falk or his positions on climate change but it does not matter.
Many conservatives are climate change deniers, but a little political hyperbole and name calling is expected.
Didn't Pierre call Trudeau a 'Wacko' and get ejected from the house? Same thing.
The point...that is clearly lost on you...is that the same people who called (let's keep it simple...) other people climate change deniers, are the same ones who scrapped it to get elected. That's how desperate they were that they could go from one extreme to the other.

Using your example...That's like Pierre calling an entire group of people wackos for decriminalizing some hard drugs (which was the reason btw)...and then when trying to get elected, decriminalizes the same drugs.

Are you so brainwashed and tired from all the tap dancing you've been doing that you can't see the hypocrisy there?
 
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Skoob

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Do you ever get anything right??? I'm not even going to answer this time because it's a waste of time. Go away!
Lol! That's your go-to tactic when you slam head-first into your own hypocrisy.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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The point...that is clearly lost on you...is that the same people who called (let's keep it simple...) other people climate change deniers, are the same ones who scrapped it to get elected.
Yes, and they scrapped it for different reasons.
The conservatives wanted to scrap it because it was a Liberal initiative and they lied that the carbon tax was majorly inflationary or because they denied climate change.
The Liberals scrapped it because it was ineffective (only 6% reduction in emissions), and politically unhelpful.
The Liberal reasoning was more honest.
 
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