2011. Obama announces a DOGE department and puts Joe Biden in charge of it

[Valcazar]

lets stick to the issue instead of trying to muddy the waters

Oh no!
you want to ring fence the discussion

is it even remotely possible that you care

I care quite a bit.
I am not "an ends justifies the means" kind of guy.

you pretend
I do care as a US govt default will cause an world wide economic depression

And yet you post what you post.

unless DOGE is able to cut govt waste and fraud , there will be a disaster

So your answer there is to just dodge the question?
Telling.

this is not a game

Yes it is.
Seeing how you break down in a thread is quite amusing.

But I do think you and I agree that what DOGE is doing isn't a game.

 

[Frankfooter]

Q1. what happens to social security, Medicare, medicaid, welfare entitlement programs when the US go becomes insovent ?
Q2. Who will you blame ?

Musk will cut all those social services, lower taxes on billionaires like himself and the debt will continue to climb.
Why do you think Reagan's trickle down theory will work this time when its never worked in the past?

 

[JohnLarue]

I care quite a bit.
I am not "an ends justifies the means" kind of guy.

sure you are
you are willing to drive the world into a economic depression to justify govt waste and fraud

And yet you post what you post.

wtf ?

Let's try a logic puzzle.

i do not play games to avoid confronting the issue

you pretend
I care as a US govt default will cause an world wide economic depression
i do not wish to see the suffering that will cause

and all that is required to avoid this misery is permitting DOGE to identify the waste and fraud in the govt

So your answer there is to just dodge the question?
Telling.

what is wrong with you ?

• 20% of US govt revenues are spent on interest payments
• the $ 36 trillion debt the SU govt has accumulated in its 240 year history is projected to double in the next nine years

so you have been confronted with the undeniable fact there is an urgent need to reduce govt spending / fraud
and your response?

Let's try a logic puzzle.

what is wrong with you?
No- Lets not play puzzles !

again you just pretend not to listen/ read what you do not want to deal with
just post a laughing emoji and you think you get to ignore what you do not like
that is the maturity of a child

doge is doing an audit,
deal with it

Yes it is.
Seeing how you break down in a thread is quite amusing.

watching you avoid the issue is not at all amusing
i thought you were an adult

But I do think you and I agree that what DOGE is doing isn't a game.

you do not think, you just spew bullshit
this not a game

now either explain how you would fix the debt bomb or get lost

 

[Frankfooter]

now either explain how you would fix the debt bomb or get lost

That's not what trump or Musk are doing.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1907560931615273284

 

[Valcazar]

sure you are
you are willing to drive the world into a economic depression to justify govt waste and fraud

What is the color of the sky in your world?
It's so funny to see you just wholesale invent bullshit to soothe your troubled mind.

and all that is required to avoid this misery is permitting DOGE to identify the waste and fraud in the govt

What a deeply stupid statement.
If you cared even a whit about the debt you would know that "identifying waste and fraud" won't be nearly enough.
But instead, you are all in favor of DOGE's attack on the law and Trump's power grab with your false concern about the debt as cover.

Oh wait.
Time for your robot mode.



what is wrong with you ?
[LIST]
[*]20% of US govt revenues are spent on interest payments
[*]the $ 36 trillion debt the SU govt has accumulated in its 240 year history is projected to double in the next nine years
[/LIST]


watching you avoid the issue is not at all amusing
i thought you were an adult

Why would someone with as childish a brain as yours want to talk to an adult?

 

[JohnLarue]

What is the color of the sky in your world?
It's so funny to see you just wholesale invent bullshit to soothe your troubled mind.

you are economically illiterate
a US govt insolvency will create devastating turmoil in currency and debt markets
and then there is the impact on the pension funds world wide

all economies run on credit
it most definitely would cause a depression and a very deep and very long lasting depression

What a deeply stupid statement.
If you cared even a whit about the debt you would know that "identifying waste and fraud" won't be nearly enough.
But instead, you are all in favor of DOGE's attack on the law and Trump's power grab with your false concern about the debt as cover.

not nearly enough ?
so your philosophy is just not bother trying so the bomb will blow up sooner

a trillion dollars in savings goes a very long way
500 billion goes a very long way

news flash
if this is not addressed and soon >>> no $ for social security, Medicaid, Medicare
and it will not be good for Canada

you will be standing around looking like a dummy, wondering what happened

you will also look like a dummy when some democrats , NGOs get charged with fraud, money laundering

Oh wait.
Time for your robot mode.

yeah
you just do not get it , you prefer to pretend the debt does not exist, no matter how many times you are told to stop pretending
more tax money for grifters

you will get to lay blame on capitalism, but that will help.... nobody


what is wrong with you ?
[LIST]
[*]20% of US govt revenues are spent on interest payments
[*]the $ 36 trillion debt the SU govt has accumulated in its 240 year history is projected to double in the next nine years
[/LIST]


you should hard code those facts and then try to understand them instead of pretending and claiming an audit is illegal/ and wasting other peoples money is a great idea

Why would someone with as childish a brain as yours want to talk to an adult?

i would much rather deal with an adult than a child/ fool like you

now pay attention
either explain how you would fix the debt bomb or get lost

 

[Valcazar]

not nearly enough ?
so your philosophy is just not bother trying so the bomb will blow up sooner

No.
My philosophy is that if someone insists there is a bomb and anyone not doing everything possible to stop it is evil, but then also says "The only solution is for this group to implement my personal policy preferences and avoid actually solving the problem I said was so important", it is pretty easy to see they are full of shit.

you will also look like a dummy when some democrats , NGOs get charged with fraud, money laundering

See?
Look how this is actually about settling partisan scores.
It even gets underline and a bigger font.

 

[JohnLarue]

No.
My philosophy is that if someone insists there is a bomb and anyone not doing everything possible to stop it is evil, but then also says "The only solution is for this group to implement my personal policy preferences and avoid actually solving the problem I said was so important", it is pretty easy to see they are full of shit.

that is not a philosophy
that is an excuse to condone waste and fraud

See?
Look how this is actually about settling partisan scores.
It even gets underline and a bigger font.

what is wrong with you?
criminals being prosecuted is not about settling partisan scores.
it is about ensuring corruption is not permitted to be the status quo and ensuring a function govt can be funded

you are really messed up

 

[richaceg]

It took Trump to do it...

 

[Valcazar]

that is not a philosophy
that is an excuse to condone waste and fraud

LOL

what is wrong with you?
criminals being prosecuted is not about settling partisan scores.
it is about ensuring corruption is not permitted to be the status quo and ensuring a function govt can be funded

But you aren't talking about "criminals being prosecuted".
You are talking about democrats.
You put more emphasis on democrats being punished than you even do about the debt.

You aren't fooling anyone.

 

[JohnLarue]

LOL


But you aren't talking about "criminals being prosecuted".

stop telling me what you mistakenly think i have been talking about

You are talking about democrats.
You put more emphasis on democrats being punished than you even do about the debt.

You aren't fooling anyone.

don't be stupid

we all know why the democrats were so freaked about doge taking a look at the records
but hey, if doge finds a republican who has been laundering taxpayers money, so be it,
charge them and prosecute them.

i will be crystal clear about what I am talking about
now get this straight

• 20% of US govt revenues are spent on interest payments
• the $ 36 trillion debt the US govt has accumulated in its 240 year history is projected to double in the next nine year
• the US govt will become insolvent unless the waste and fraud in govt spending is fixed and fixed now- this is a mathematical certainty
• an insolvent US govt will not be able to make entitlement payments for social security, Medicaid, Medicare, welfare
• an insolvent US govt will create an economic depression that will cause misery and suffering across the globe
• DOGE is undertaking an audit and if you had half a brain you would want them to identify as much of the waste and fraud as possible in order it be cleaned up to prevent an insolvency

That is what I am talking about
now smarten up and stop spinning bullshit

 

[Valcazar]

stop telling me what you mistakenly think i have been talking about

Why?
You are pretty clearly not making arguments in good faith.

we all know why the democrats were so freaked about doge taking a look at the records

Keep on demonstrating how this is all just about partisan politics.
It's better than your broken robot routine.

now get this straight

• 20% of US govt revenues are spent on interest payments
• the $ 36 trillion debt the US govt has accumulated in its 240 year history is projected to double in the next nine year
• the US govt will become insolvent unless the waste and fraud in govt spending is fixed and fixed now- this is a mathematical certainty
• an insolvent US govt will not be able to make entitlement payments for social security, Medicaid, Medicare, welfare
• an insolvent US govt will create an economic depression that will cause misery and suffering across the globe

Whoops.
Spoke too soon.

• DOGE is undertaking an audit

Quick question.
Is that all they are doing, in your mind?

 

[JohnLarue]

you are a coward

 

[JohnLarue]

Why?
You are pretty clearly not making arguments in good faith.

wrong

Keep on demonstrating how this is all just about partisan politics.
It's better than your broken robot routine.

wrong, what part of the following confused you ?

but hey, if doge finds a republican who has been laundering taxpayers money, so be it,
charge them and prosecute them.

Whoops.
Spoke too soon.

yes you did

offer a solution to the debt bomb or get lost

Quick question.
Is that all they are doing, in your mind?

you are one who is imagining things, I not speculate on what is going on in that vacuous space you call your mind

you are focused on conspiracy theories and pretending the wasteful spending and fraud is non-existent
i will focus on facts
the US govt will become insolvent unless the waste and fraud in govt spending is fixed and fixed now- this is a mathematical certainty
offer a solution to the debt bomb or get lost

 

[Valcazar]

wrong, what part of the following confused you ?

but hey, if doge finds a republican who has been laundering taxpayers money, so be it,
charge them and prosecute them.

None of it.
Ass-covering is a pretty simple to understand.

offer a solution to the debt bomb or get lost

[/QUOTE]you are focused on conspiracy theories and pretending the wasteful spending and fraud is non-existent[/QUOTE]

I have never pretended wasteful spending and fraud is non-existent.
What a silly thing to say,

i will focus on facts

I always underestimate your talent at saying an even sillier thing.

 

[wigglee]

Musk just cut off a bunch of children from their social security survivor benefits. These are orphans who lost their parents. That is the measure of humanity that the Trump regime is showing.