Snow White - Go Woke Go Broke Movie Flop

WyattEarp

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I don't disagree on how movies are rated or what a lack of marketing (which you seemed to imply, that I will take you at your word for) can do, but this is off topic.

Okay, but again off topic as this has nothing to do with this controversy.
You gotta get away from calling "off-topic" when you are in a conversation and your thoughts are challenged. You have to follow the thread conversations when addressing other members.

I have never tied Snow White's failure to Disney's politics. It's really simple to follow, but for some reason you're reading the thread topic and imposing it on other's posts.

In Canada we have far more DEI policies and practices than the US.
So in my opinion we are just as informed/experienced.
Perhaps you do. Perhaps you are as informed. I think the U.S. has an entirely different history than Canada that doesn't always allow for simple comparisons.

I also think "You don't live here, so you don't know" is a cop out.
No, it's not a cop out. That's life. You have to walk in somebody's shoes is a well-worn saying for good reason. So in my opinion, you can only project what you think things are like in the United States.

Just because you live in the US does not mean you have first hand interactions with all these government institutions and their DEI policies.
We all sure do. Can't escape it unless one is permanently debilitated at home. Every institution we interact with has been impacted by DEI policies and it's neither benign or subtle.

It really depends on your position, work and circumstances in life and therefore the majority of Americans are none the wiser and rely on the same sources that I do for information.
However, this is again off topic.
Again, with your imposing what is on topic and what is off-topic. What is that.....three times in one post?

To remind you, the topic of this thread is that this movie flopped because it was "woke".
My response to that is, that it is more likely that it is not a very good movie that is entertaining.
Most people don't politicize their movie watching experience.
But some people like the OP seem to.
May I suggest you adopt a more conversational tone. You seem far too committed to offering opposition that you can't even realize I am not blaming Disney's politics for Snow White.
 
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Shaquille Oatmeal

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You gotta get away from calling "off-topic" when you are in a conversation and posts are challenged. You have to follow the thread conversations when addressing other members.
Then stick to the topic, and respond to what is being discussed.
It is off topic because you had gone off on a tangent.
You didn't challenge anything.
I have never tied Snow White's failure to Disney's politics. It's really simple to follow, but for some reason you're reading the thread topic and imposing it on other's posts.
I never said you did.
I said you are off topic, which you are.
Perhaps you do. Perhaps you are as informed. I think the U.S. has an entirely different history than Canada that doesn't always allow for simple comparisons.
We are not comparing the US and Canada.
No, it's not a cop out. That's life.
No it is not a cop out atleast for this topic.
Living in the US does not automatically grant you knowledge of DEI policies of institutions.
If you talk suffering due to not having access to healthcare, I would agree.
We don't suffer as much and we don't know how that feels like.
So it really depends on the topic and on the one that pertains to this thread, there is no special insight you get from living in the US.
We all sure do. Can't escape it unless one is permanently debilitated at home. Every institution we interact with has been impacted by DEI policies and it's neither benign or subtle.
What are they?
At best your response is going to be attribution of something to DEI without any evidence that it was caused or impacted by DEI.
What is that.....three times in one post?
I wasn't keeping count.
But if you say you were off topic 3 times, I will take you at your word.
May I suggest you adopt a more conversational tone. You seem far too committed to offering opposition that you can't even realize I am not blaming Disney's politics for Snow White.
I did not blame you for anything and I know you did not blame Disney.
I "liked" your first post on this thread, so I know where you stand already.
I said your response to me was not on topic, and that the OP and a few others were politicizing it for no reason.
 

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Then stick to the topic, and respond to what is being discussed.
It is off topic because you had gone off on a tangent.
You didn't challenge anything.
Wouldn't it be simpler if you didn't respond to something I posted that you thought was off-topic? Why do you think it's your place here to adjudicate the thread?

No it is not a cop out atleast for this topic.
Living in the US does not automatically grant you knowledge of DEI policies of institutions.
If you talk suffering due to not having access to healthcare, I would agree.
We don't suffer as much and we don't know how that feels like.
So it really depends on the topic and on the one that pertains to this thread, there is no special insight you get from living in the US.
And I am off-topic? What is going in in your head? Do you have any sense of what you are saying from one post to another? You're bringing up healthcare on the Snow White thread.

Are you saying Snow White would not have depended on a Prince to revive her if she had Canadian healthcare?
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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Wouldn't it be simpler if you didn't respond to something I posted that you thought was off-topic? Why do you think it's your place here to adjudicate the thread?
I didn't say you cannot post something.
I said your response to me was off topic and didn't say anything beyond that.
You're bringing up healthcare on the Snow White thread.
As an example, sure.
To drive home the point that there are certain topics where you'd be right that living in a country would give you a better perspective of. Like healthcare.
Certain others like DEI, not so much.
 

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I just look at Snow White as a tired Disney franchise. The story is from 1812. When someone says a movie is a "reimagining", there's generally a lack of creative energy.
The re-imagining of Disney films like Snow White are not due to lack of creativity.

These are deliberate decisions made, time and time again, by those in charge to serve a specific purpose.

Film is only one facet of Disney's umbrella business. The folks in charge see fit to propagandize, social engineer, and promote DEI even if it means less earnings.
 
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Now that's just your opinion...Zeggler ran her mouth...she got a reaction...and now her film are only breaking even...
Its a shitty film, with dwarf issues, shitty acting from the zionist and a feud that only highlighted the issues of the original story.
Right wingers are total Karens and got offended that Zegler had views while left wingers couldn't see a movie with a war criminal actress.

 
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NEW: Disney's 'Snow White' remake box office suffers a 66% drop in the second weekend of showings. The film's flop, much thanks to Rachel Zegler, could end up costing Disney millions of dollars. The movie is currently one of the lowest IMDb-rated movies of all time, receiving a 1.6 out of 10 rating. It has generated $143.1 million globally to date, well short of the $250 million cost to produce the film, which does not include marketing expenses as reported by Variety. The son of producer Marc Platt ripped Zegler for ruining his father's movie last week, accusing her of being the reason the film flopped. "Tens of thousands of people worked on that film and she hijacked the conversation for her own immature desires at the risk of all the colleagues and crew and blue-collar workers who depend on that movie to be successful." "Narcissism is not something to be coddled or encouraged."
She should play AOC in the biopic...Another sure flop.
 
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I think we're losing track of why the Snow White movie exists.

It exists so parents can buy it and put it on to entertain the kids when they can't be bothered interacting with the little fuckers. Little girls mainline Disney princess movies the way 70's rock stars mainlined smack. The parents won't gaf that the self-important starlet lead went all "River to the Sea" on a late night talk show. The little girls won't even know.

Why did it fizzle?...... IDK, maybe it was a cold weekend and mom and aunt Elaine decided to order in pizza and play little Emma and Sofia Beauty and the Beast or The Little Mermaid instead of going out to the theatre. (Because kids actually like seeing movies 50+ times). I doubt anyone made a "political decision" not to go see it.

Because only rightie dickheads do that sort of shit. You know, assholes with "Fuck Woke!" on their pickup trucks who play Morgan Wallen asshole music and get into fights in bars. Right?

Don't be that asshole, righties!
 

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She should play AOC in the biopic...Another sure flop.
I think YOU should put on women's clothes and play AOC in a biopic, given how obsessed you are. Mitch could play the woke "sensitive guy" love interest.
 
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The re-imagining of Disney films like Snow White are not due to lack of creativity.

These are deliberate decisions made, time and time again, by those in charge to serve a specific purpose.

Film is only one facet of Disney's umbrella business. The folks in charge see fit to propagandize, social engineer, and promote DEI even if it means less earnings.

Jesus the marketing budget was double what the cost of making the movie.

This could lose 250 million dollars. That would make it the biggest loser of all time.

All that just because they woked it up...They had a tried and proven formula and blew it.
 
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If I were going to remake Snow White, I’d have Megan Fox play Snow White and Demi Moore play the evil Queen.

Even though Megan Fox can’t sing, no one would care because the could lip sync the a recording from Reachel Zegler.

That movie would be a hit.

Just my humble opinion.
 

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Its a shitty film, with dwarf issues, shitty acting from the zionist and a feud that only highlighted the issues of the original story.
Right wingers are total Karens and got offended that Zegler had views while left wingers couldn't see a movie with a war criminal actress.

Jesus christ...your obsession with Israel is off the charts... Gal Gadot is probably why there are still people who watched this film...lol...
 
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They know the formula for success. But the agenda is more important than the box office.
Disney is as capitalist as any company in the US. Maybe more. Bob Iger was one of the very few Steve Jobs saw as an amazing leader for a company.

Disney made billions by making family movies. Not to please the anti-woke maga hillbillies.
 
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Disney has always sucked. I’ve never understood the appeal of their product. When I compare Disney to Looney Tunes it’s not close. As you age Looney Tunes gets funnier while Disney fades. I’ve recently started working with a guy that has the same speech impediment as Elmer Fudd so I’ve watched some Looney Tunes lately. Great stuff.

”Kill the Wabbit??”
 

Frankfooter

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Jesus christ...your obsession with Israel is off the charts... Gal Gadot is probably why there are still people who watched this film...lol...
Even trying to blame the failure on Zegler is still blaming it on Israel, the right wing were first triggered because she's latino and then triggered when she said 'free Palestine'.
Deal with it.
 
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Disney has always been a family values company with a cold heart. Walt Disney was a union buster, a stool pigeon for The House UnAmerican Activities and a Nazi Sympathizer. They were the first to promote child labour. They invested $5.5 billion in developing theme parks in the PRC. Xi showed his gratitude by banning the live action Mulan. In their infinite greed, they decided to soil their flagship film: Snow White. That film stands to surpass Mulan's record for red ink with a $170 loss.

Snow White lost %67 of its market share in its second week.

 
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