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Trump/Zelensky deal turns into Jerry Springer episode

Mr.lover

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Not Jerry Springer. Have you guys ever been in business negotiations with vendors or partners who messed up? Trump and Vance kept it very civic and told it how it was. It’s not like we hadn’t given him hundreds of billions.
That went back to the ammunition and weapons factories in the US. War is big business for the US, it keeps their economy churning.. so STFU.
 

Mr.Gr33k

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It existed for a short while.

And then it was over run and conquered by Russia. Which committed genocide there.

You don't know anything about this stuff, do you?
Ukraine was formed by ancient Ukis from over 1000 years ago, right? And they also founded Kievan Rus, right? And taught Chinese to make gun powder...
 
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mitchell76

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Thank you
@realDonaldTrump
for your unwavering leadership in standing up for the interests of the American people, and peace. What you said is absolutely true: Zelensky has been trying to drag the United States into a nuclear war with Russia/WW3 for years now, and no one has called him on it. Thank you, Vice President
@JDVance
for speaking out so forcefully and clearly, about the necessity of diplomacy.
 

WyattEarp

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Ukraine's former minister of economy, Tymofiy Mylovanov, said the choice to side with Russia was deliberate.

"This is no longer just rhetoric or political theatre," he said.
This was one of the most clever jobs of cut & paste. I'm wondering if you could really be manipulating words to that extent or did you just do a quick Google search of his name.

Mylovanov was speaking of the U.S.' decision to not denounce Russia at the U.N. He was not offering his opinion on the U.S.' decision. He was merely stating the obvious and being realistic.

My point if you read his posts you get a realistic and sobering assessment from a prominent Ukrainian who wants an independent and free Ukraine.
 

squeezer

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This was one of the most clever jobs of cut & paste. I'm wondering if you could really be manipulating words to that extent or did you just do a quick Google search of his name.

Mylovanov was speaking of the U.S.' decision to not denounce Russia at the U.N. He was not offering his opinion on the U.S.' decision. He was merely stating the obvious and being realistic.

My point if you read his posts you get a realistic and somber assessment from a prominent Ukrainian who wants an independent and free Ukraine.
 

mitchell76

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Zelensky is a dead man walking. He has two options: A) Surrender, agree to ceasefire, Trump finds out where the money went in Ukraine, and he’s a dead man. B) Don’t surrender, Trump shuts off all support, Putin takes all of Ukraine, and he’s a dead man. Pick your poison. At least option A will spare the lives of many innocent Ukrainian and Russian soldiers, but no matter how you slice it, there is no scenario where Zelensky survives this. Zelensky just dug his own grave in front of the entire world.
 
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