Trump just SLAMMED Zelensky as he boarded Marine One heading to Mar-a-Lago “He overplayed his hand. We want PEACE. We don’t want to play [Zelensky’s] games. He’s looking for something I’m not looking for. I don’t want a 10 year war! I want PEACE! This is man who wants to keep us fighting. We’re not doing that.”
Trump/Zelensky deal turns into Jerry Springer episode
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Trump just SLAMMED Zelensky as he boarded Marine One heading to Mar-a-Lago “He overplayed his hand. We want PEACE. We don’t want to play [Zelensky’s] games. He’s looking for something I’m not looking for. I don’t want a 10 year war! I want PEACE! This is man who wants to keep us fighting. We’re not doing that.”
It is the United States best interests to defang Russia. It is not in Trump's best interests though.
You miss the deeper point. Appeasing Putin is like appeasing Hitler
We are involved in this war, it transcends borders
Putin is a meglomaniac, extreme narcissist, total sociopath (harms people without remorse), pathlogical liar, dictator, a demagogue (political leader who seeks support by appealing to prejudices ) is creating a plutocracy ( rule by the wealthy)
Does that sound like anyone else?
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that number — as with most of the garbage spewing from Trump — is absolutely made-up bullshit and has been proven as such.
Russia kicked out. Putin dead. Russia paying reparations to Ukraine and Europe.
No, its in Trump's best interest to have peace in the world.
Its in my best interest too, because if this thing turns into WW3 my stocks and REIT's will go to shit
I was not very familiar with Vance. Wow is he ever a little bitch!
The deal was a vague letter of intent, and what he gets in return is the on going billions and billions. As well as assistance in negotiating a peace agreement.
When does the US ever do anything because they felt obligated to another country?
This is about Global Security. Having Russia expand, especially into Europe is not in the best interest of America.
I'm not sure anyone here can.
There is modern precedence for proxy wars being fought to standoffs and the U.S. pursuing containment with nuclear powers. The group that seeks a total victory for the Ukraine is either naive or supporting further conflict for the sake of opposing Trump. I would hope for their own conscience it's the former.
The Biden Administration should have ended this war when it became clear that the Ukraine was fighting in a grinding stalemate.
I agree, that's the only chance Poilievre has, to firmly tie Carney's policies to Trudeau's as per Oracle's post.
If Carney can distance himself enough, Poilievre's done.
IMO, Poilievre is not a bad guy but I don't think he's that likeable and his main appeal was the total disdain for Trudeau.
With Trudeau gone it's back to square one and with Trump and Ford securely in place, it may not even be that.
I think Poilievre has to swing for the fences and try to sell a bolder economic/industrial vision for the country, as well as
showing a willingness to ween off U.S. dependency.
Trudeau bashing and character assassination of whoever won't cut it anymore I don't think.
People have seen enough of that and understand that won't guarantee anything better.
JD Vance continously demanding that Ukraine thank them is sickening. Imagine what kind of husband and father this prick is.
Fact check: Zelensky thanked Trump and the USA 33 times.
Fact check: Zelensky thanked Trump and the USA 33 times.
Grinding stalemate.... sort of like the Eastern Front in 1917. What happened next, Earp?
It's a strawman, narrowed question. The real question is, would she have been a better president. And that depends on your idea of what's better.
To many in the USA, who don't want to fund wars, Trump is right. I'm a Canadian. I don't get a say in USA tax dollars.
Absolutely he is shitty on Canada, and Europe, and basically the world. And again. It's what USA voters chose. I don't get a say.
My posts were observations on how the Democratic party was out of step with American Opinion, chose a shitty leader, haven't had a real primary since Obama, were hypocrites and had lost their base due to been ineffective.
I was right. That is what you don't like. I predicted the outcome. That doesn't mean support.
One side or the other collapses.
If you are seeking a collapse of Putin's regime, perhaps you want Trump to commit U.S. doughboys to the lines.
PS- I don't think you could have possibly thought the history through.
Making peace with Russia is the best global security you can have
