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Tariffs on Canada delayed for 30 days after talk between Trudeau and Trump. Trump folds.

davenothere

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I was stating no opinion on either trump or Trudeau. There was no attempt at comparison either.

Reread my post you quoted and you will see that I was talking about common traits of tDSers, i.e., those afflicted with trump Devotee Syndrome. Not about trump or Trudeau.
Can you write yourself a 'doctors note'? :unsure: :ROFLMAO:
 
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glamphotographer

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As a negotiation tactic, let's charge a %200 tariff on Teslas. And Maybe we get NY state as our 11th province. That's how you negotiate with Donald Dump.
 

WyattEarp

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Canada doesn't explicitly prohibit ATT, Verizon and T-Mobile from competing in Canada.
Becoming a Telecom provider involves network infrastructure, spectrum licenses and regulatory approvals which are often very cost prohibitive..
That holds good for both the US and Canada.
As for DT, they did not come to the US organically. They acquired T-Mobile's predecessor several years ago.
So again not sure how this helps your case.
It is not like the US allows laissez faire expansion even amongst the big 3 domestically.
For example mergers are subject to FCC review and conditions.
You're just making arguments to dismiss what we all see on the ground. We also don't need you to explain the capital requirements of telecom.

The fact that a large market with big capital requirements like the U.S. has a strong foreign-owned competitor demonstrates an open market for foreign investment. The fact that a small market like Canada does not have foreign investment is prima facie evidence that the U.S. telecom market is more open.

As for DT, they did not come to the US organically. They acquired T-Mobile's predecessor several years ago.
So again not sure how this helps your case.
I didn't make an argument that the U.S. has a big foreign competitor organically. I basically said Canada's big three telecoms were not organically established without the help of a closed market.

On the matter of a foreign competitor buying a business or assets, it is an effective way to enter a market. It doesn't preclude organic growth. T-Mobile had 7 million subscribers when Deutsche Bank acquired it. Today T-Mobile has 130 million subscribers.

It is not like the US allows laissez faire expansion even amongst the big 3 domestically. For example mergers are subject to FCC review and conditions.
This is a curious case of whataboutism. The U.S. has direct foreign investment in our telecom sector. Canada does not. Of course, telecom mergers and expansions are regulated in the U.S. like they are everywhere.
 
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I wouldn’t want to shit in a stall next to this guy
I think he has special facilities at the White House, complete with a shower room to clean up after taking his diaper off.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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You're just making arguments to dismiss what we all see on the ground. We also don't need you to explain the capital requirements of telecom.

The fact that a large market with big capital requirements like the U.S. has a strong foreign-owned competitor demonstrates an open market for foreign investment. The fact that a small market like Canada does not have foreign investment is prima facie evidence that the U.S. telecom market is more open.



I didn't make an argument that the U.S. has a big foreign competitor organically. I basically said Canada's big three telecoms were not organically established without the help of a closed market.

On the matter of a foreign competitor buying a business or assets, it is an effective way to enter a market. It doesn't preclude organic growth. T-Mobile had 7 million subscribers when Deutsche Bank acquired it. Today T-Mobile has 130 million subscribers.



This is a curious case of whataboutism. The U.S. has direct foreign investment in our telecom sector. Canada does not. Of course, telecom mergers and expansions are regulated in the U.S. like they are everywhere.
What do you mean they did not develop organically?
They are Canadian companies, started by Canadians and established in Canada.
Foreign investment isn't up to Canada. It is up to the investors to evaluate if they want to invest.
However it is true that there are capex and regulatory requirements in both the US and Canada.
Essentially nothing is drastically different in Canada than it is in the US.
Nobody is entitled to the Canadian market.
Canada for its part does not prevent anyone from investing in Canada or buying companies here.
Tim Hortons as an example was bought by Burger King an American corporation.
So I am not making up anything.
You are trying to hold Canada responsible for something Canada isn't responsible for.
Sounds like mental gymnastics to me frankly.
 

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BREAKING: RFK Jr. has just been APPROVED by the Senate Finance Committee as the next Secretary of Health and Human Services, advancing his nomination to a full Senate vote. Senator Bill Cassidy (R - Louisiana) was the key flip that helped Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s nomination for Secretary of Health and Human Services move forward in the Senate Finance Committee. The vote was 14-13, with Cassidy casting the decisive vote in favor.
 

JohnLarue

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There was a whole lot more going on in Germany. To make your point, it's important to ignore all these preceding events.

Weak emerging Democracy
Hyperinflation
Great Depression
Massive Unemployment

Germany was buffeted by all of this in about ten years.
two other issues
  1. National pride had been hammered
  2. The Treaty of Versailles was very punitive
One can easily argue both were well deserved for the war mongers, however it was the population that got the beating and the bills,
that bred discontent for sure

No doubt the French wanted big $ , their country was the main battlefield and was destroyed, so they were justified in demanding big $ to clean up the mess
 

mandrill

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BREAKING: RFK Jr. has just been APPROVED by the Senate Finance Committee as the next Secretary of Health and Human Services, advancing his nomination to a full Senate vote. Senator Bill Cassidy (R - Louisiana) was the key flip that helped Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s nomination for Secretary of Health and Human Services move forward in the Senate Finance Committee. The vote was 14-13, with Cassidy casting the decisive vote in favor.
I hope Cassidy got a nice pay-off for the vote.

Medical Twitter is burning his ass down.
 
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