Sugar Dating Experience

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I agree with @Leimonis and @jsanchez comments.

There are two types of incels from their comments and been here long enough.

Single Incel. - Mainly described a man but a woman too.
Married Incel. Mainly described a man but a woman too.

I know a guy who is a single celibate by choice but can talk and meet women easily - no hate towards them - and I have seen women make moves on him. But he doesn't want a relationship - pays for sex - because of many reasons like all of us here.

 

[Leimonis]

I know a guy who is a single celibate by choice but can talk and meet women easily - no hate towards them - and I have seen women make moves on him. But he doesn't want a relationship - pays for sex - because of many reasons like all of us here.

I hope we all agree that this guy is not an incel though because he is hardly celibate as he has sex albeit paid for, but even more importantly, his situation is not involuntary.

 

[shack]

I don't think you should paint all of us as a "incels community" just because of a disagreement with one poster

That's the point of my second post. She resents all of the men here because I presented a different opinion. She does not accept anyone's opinion but her own. She is doing herself and her business no favours with such a defensive attitude. When she talks about an open discussion, it means only hers' counts. My response to her original post was actually quite mild.

 

[shack]

i didnt take your original comments as insulting and I wish you didnt delete it.

Don't worry. I believe that I quoted it.

Do you think that when she said that guys that want a SB are because they are "lonely" was a compliment? She may not have intended it as a diss, but it sure reads that way.

 

[dchoye]

Don't worry. I believe that I quoted it.

Do you think that when she said that guys that want a SB are because they are "lonely" was a compliment? She may not have intended it as a diss, but it sure reads that way.

I don’t take it as a compliment nor a negative comment.
We all have degrees of lonely feelings
Why are we looking for girls when we could be masturbating or have sex with our wife/GF ?
For me it is disconnect with my SO and getting tired of solo sex
We all need connection. There’s nothing wrong with that.
Yes, the comment was insensitive coming from a pro SP who monopolize on turnstile clients but why do you care?
You found SB who want to spend 4 hours or longer with you and not watch the clock.
This is an escorts forum. Not a SB forum
Escorts are trained to watch the time closely and boot you out when next client is ready
Im not surprised by the comment
I think being called a “time waster” is more of a diss then being called “lonely”

 

[GeeBee]

I really can't understand the difference between an SB and an SP for the life of me no matter how much I read this thread.

There is a girl on LeoList I have seen four times now. I asked for an Outcall and I paid her $600 for 2 hours of time two weeks ago; I took her out to Dinner at a Sushi Place (she likes sushi, I paid for it), and then we went to a nearby Hotel to fuck our brains out.

SB just sounds like an Independent Escort with more steps. The fact that SBs want to be paid for a meet & greet in order to "interview" you before you get to fuck her is the equivalent of having to screen yourself with an SP with Photo ID or an E-mail Money Transfer (but worse) which a lot of guys on this board abhor.

Maybe I'm just fucking stupid. At the end of day, regardless if the woman is a civilian, an SB, or an SP, you do end up having to "pay" for sex in some way, shape, or form. At least with an SP it's more direct.

Agreed, it’s all sex work. And it’s cool that you and the LL SP had a good time eating and fucking.

The only thing I’d point out is that most SB’s don’t demand the stupid $$ for a meet end greet nonsense, and most of the guys into Sugar Babes won’t be interested in girls who do. If thats the case then you’d might as well go with an SP, no question.

To me the difference between SP’s and SB’s is that the screening goes both ways with an SB. You can usually meet an SB up front for a coffee or a drink and essentially screen each other. You can see the girl in person, see if her pic’s are accurate, get a feeling for her personality, and in many cases openly talk about her sexual likes and limits, and all it costs is some time and a Starbucks. Many legitimate SB’s are also happy have a video conversation before you meet.

With a SP it’s more of a gamble. Yes great reviews from fellow pooners give reassurance, but the guy is the one who gets screened, not the girl. You’re not going to see the the girl in person, or even talk to her, until $$ changes hands. And you might even be asked for a deposit before hand.

 

[inmyname]

I've had to keep all of my encounters very discrete because of my SO and situation.
They message their expectations and you tell them yours.
First meetings for me have almost all involved intimacy right away except for maybe 2, which turned into intimacy the next time we met.
I usually message back and forth off the site, we flirt for a bit and trade normal pics (sometimes nude).
When messaging off the site, I feel like you get a better inclination of what they're into, if they're really real or not, etc.
And yes, to your point, there is definitely too good to be true out there - as in scammers.

I had one bad experience that went way past my better judgment but I won't get into it in the public forum. It was my fault for going along with it but I felt so stupid and it was almost a very dangerous situation. Actually it was dangerous.

Rule #1: If they only have one photo, no matter how real or attractive, do not engage.

Where do you usually meet them for intimacy? Your place or theirs or a hotel?

 

[Leimonis]

Where do you usually meet them for intimacy? Your place or theirs or a hotel?

Dogs mate more successfully when the female is brought to the male’s territory rather than the other way around. Here’s why:

1. Comfort & Confidence:

• The male dog is more confident and dominant in his own environment, which can make the mating process smoother.

• A new environment can make a male dog anxious or distracted, reducing his willingness to mate.

2. Territorial Instincts:

• In an unfamiliar location, the male dog might be more focused on exploring and marking rather than mating.

• If the female is in his space, he may feel more in control and engaged.

3. Reduced Distractions:

• If the male is brought to the female’s home, there could be other dogs, unfamiliar smells or environmental factors.

 

[that6969]

Many clients probably do treat SPs better than the guys they have dated sadly. And some SPs do offer dinner dates and such. It's very similar to a SB if they are open to more than just sex. Also some SBs want funds regardless for their time such as escorting. I've done meet and greet without paying for a PPM or so, but I've also chatted women on sites who'd want a PPM prior to the meal or even drink because they value their time. That's when folks can choose if they want to proceed or not. YMMV. There's no set standards on a SB. I've texted some daily to get to know them along with flirting and a few sexting to tease one another before we meet again. But then there's some who'll want a select amount for even texting back and forth so it highly depends on the person. I'm not lonely enough to yet have to pay someone just to chat/text them when I can find others who are perfectly happy with me hitting them up here or there at times. I'm sure there are guys on here who also pay for live cam stuff which I also haven't done and it's to each their own really. I wouldn't hate on someone spending their money for live cam or even texting/sexting someone.

The incel comment was unnecessary especially since there's tons of guys on here in relationships or are single by choice cause they rather pay than what they dealt with in a relationship before. Most of us don't seem like we actually dislike women. I personally have no issue being in another relationship again when I feel like it.

And as for seeing a SP there are a few who I've briefly chatted after a session and such depending on my mood. Most ladies have come across enjoyable. It's the ones rushing you out the door and such I treated as it is and just walked out without saying much. Not like those types would be repeats for me or most folks.

 

[shack]

Yes, the comment was insensitive

Good way to phrase it.

coming from a pro SP who monopolize on turnstile clients but why do you care?

I don't care. I was pointing out how the comment was "insensitive", nothing more and nothing less.
And how would you characterize saying that this is board of incels? Also simply insensitive? I think that she over reacted to my initial post.

You found SB who want to spend 4 hours or longer with you and not watch the clock.
This is an escorts forum. Not a SB forum

In that case, maybe this whole thread of almost 100 pages should be deleted, because SBs is the topic and it's on an escort forum.

 

[Leimonis]

Hey all I just feel I need to share a funny thing with the community! I just had a session with a brand new 26yo SB and she was absolutely beautiful and pretty restrictive and kinda shitty in bed although she liked doggy like all of them do but most importantly she claimed to have liked that subject in school that’s about stars and constellations and planets and she called it astrology I said I can’t find astrology that fascinating and she said what do you mean it’s about majestic objects in the sky and what happens there with them. And I started to suspect that she meant astronomy and I pointed out that astrology is not the science and suggested that perhaps it’s astronomy and she reluctantly agreed that probably that’s what it must’ve been she was the one who brought it up as her favourite . It’s not like I quizzed her on her general knowledge
She also admitted that she hasn’t really read a single fucking science fiction book in her life. When she need to read for school she would watch a movie.
Beautiful as a fucking doll though.
but its hard not to feel like I become dumber in her presence

 

[Hipjdog]

Hey all I just feel I need to share a funny thing with the community! I just had a session with a brand new 26yo SB and she was absolutely beautiful and pretty restrictive and kinda shitty in bed although she liked doggy like all of them do but most importantly she claimed to have liked that subject in school that’s about stars and constellations and planets and she called it astrology I said I can’t find astrology that fascinating and she said what do you mean it’s about majestic objects in the sky and what happens there with them. And I started to suspect that she meant astronomy and I pointed out that astrology is not the science and suggested that perhaps it’s astronomy and she reluctantly agreed that probably that’s what it must’ve been she was the one who brought it up as her favourite . It’s not like I quizzed her on her general knowledge
She also admitted that she hasn’t really read a single fucking science fiction book in her life. When she need to read for school she would watch a movie.
Beautiful as a fucking doll though.
but its hard not to feel like I become dumber in her presence

Ha ha, well we aren't exactly here to learn anything!

 

[Leimonis]

Ha ha, well we aren't exactly here to learn anything!

No lol the actual issue with her of course is that she was shitty in bed like many of those beautiful women are because nobody ever tells them.
I just thought astrology thing was hilarious. It was sad. She went to school in Canada and finished not that long ago. It’s scary they can finish school not reading a single book

 

[Hipjdog]

No lol the actual issue with her of course is that she was shitty in bed like many of those beautiful women are because nobody ever tells them.
I just thought astrology thing was hilarious. It was sad. She went to school in Canada and finished not that long ago. It’s scary they can finish school not reading a single book

Yeah a lot of hot girls can get away with that because they can just lie there. Someone should teach them. I volunteer!

 

[dchoye]

Good way to phrase it.

I don't care. I was pointing out how the comment was "insensitive", nothing more and nothing less.
And how would you characterize saying that this is board of incels? Also simply insensitive? I think that she over reacted to my initial post.


In that case, maybe this whole thread of almost 100 pages should be deleted, because SBs is the topic and it's on an escort forum.

Whoa. I’m not here to debate.
I’m not implying the SB topic thread to be deleted

The point I wanted to make is this is mainly an Indy escort/agency forum
the comments posted here are from the escort/client perspective geared to that type of sex work

If you wanted to join others in like minded conversation in the sugar bowl then a SB forum is where it’s at.
For example in Reddit, there is
Sugarlifestyleforum: A forum where SDs and SBs discuss the sugar lifestyle, share experiences, and learn from one another

Btw I agree that the description of us as a board of incel was gaslighting and I did respond to her comments

 

[Leimonis]

If you wanted to join others in like minded conversation in the sugar bowl then a SB forum is where it’s at.
For example in Reddit, there is
Sugarlifestyleforum: A forum where SDs and SBs discuss the sugar lifestyle, share experiences, and learn from one another

I am banned there for life for telling someone to go fuck himslef. Watch your language there

 

[Liam011]

Yeah a lot of hot girls can get away with that because they can just lie there. Someone should teach them. I volunteer!

It's also why I find a lot of 9s and 10s are dull to be around and narcissistic. It comes of getting the "princess" treatment all their lives and little exposure to reality. Don't get me wrong, I still chase them (lol) but give me a 7 or 8 with a dirty mind and life experience any time.

It's also why I tend to go for the ones in the mid to late thirties.

 

[Leimonis]

It's also why I find a lot of 9s and 10s are dull to be around and narcissistic. It comes of getting the "princess" treatment all their lives and little exposure to reality. Don't get me wrong, I still chase them (lol) but give me a 7 or 8 with a dirty mind and life experience any time.

It's also why I tend to go for the ones in the mid to late thirties.

Agree with everything above except mid to late thirties are typically getting fat real quick. By late thirties the pickings are insanely slim. And the good looking ones may be just as dumb as they were when they were young.

 

[shack]

It's also why I find a lot of 9s and 10s are dull to be around and narcissistic.

I avoid the ones that have glamour shots and bios that say "I want to be treated like the princess I am".

 

[Liam011]

Key red flag words for me are princess, queen or "spoil me"

Chances are they come pre-spoiled with bad attitude.