Remind me how she did in the 2018 election, lol...Ontarians didn't have a high opinion of her now did they?
The Ontario government has started sending out $200 cheques to taxpayers
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Why did any Ontario Premier keep winning all the elections?
One day Ford's time will be up as well, once Ontarians have fully sussed him out, for the liar that he is.
When sizeable Ontario residents now do not have a doctor, long waiting lines for hospital procedures, see money squandered on useless highways and so called tunnels, while schools infrastructures are aging, then we know what that will mean. His only desires were to dish out lucrative contracts to his buddies for all those contracts that would not benefit the ordinary residents of Ontario!!
I've already explained this. You don't understand politics.
If he cuts, you guys will scream bloody murder. He has to surgically do it.
Fraser institute are staunch Western Conservatives. They base everything off of Alberta politics where they don't have to compete against Liberals.
You guys have to stop lying. You guys are disgusting with the lies.
Rae is the one that set Ontario in the path of destruction. The original big union budget waster.
Even Mike Harris got 2 terms, Bob only got 1 and the NDP have been off the map ever since. Bob Rae failed. It's just that simple.
And again Fraser Institute don't know what they are talking about. Try any of that shit in Ontario and see if you win an election.
It's hilarious for you guys to post about lowering spending, but will attack for for not spending enough.
That's why Ford is the best. You don't know politics.
And how could I miss saying this.
Wynne is a crook that had fake budgets and paid people under the table. or just straight paying them off.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-independent-commission-accounting-practices-1.4831323
MaRS Discovery District Can’t Pay Money Back After Huge Bailout Hid by Kathleen Wynne | BetaKit
“It’s another blatant attempt to hide it all from the taxpayers and the legislature," former Progressive Conservative MPP Frank Klees told reporters this morning. The Progressive Conservatives have obtained documents that say Kathleen Wynne's Liberal government secretly approved a $317 million...
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Since Wynne became premier number of teachers on Sunshine List nearly tripled, costing taxpayers $765M
Taxpayers were left with a $765-million bill to pay the salaries of the teachers who made the list in 2016, compared with $263 million in 2014 — one year after Wynn…
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Ontario Liberals Must Repay Secret Funds Funneled To Unions
If someone gave you $80.5 million dollars, you'd probably feel pretty good about them. You may want to shout it from the rooftops that you think they're great -- and you may even be willing to pay a million dollars or two to shout it, especially if it meant the money would keep rolling in. In...
Anything from McGuintiy and Wynne is pure shit.
Liberal corruption is insane but you guys will always look the other way for them.
Why?
Doug Ford’s Electoral Rigging Scheme Was A Success
Data analysis shows Bill 307 helped allow Ford to achieve victory while avoiding genuinely important democratic means of accountability.
www.readthemaple.com
If we show Ford doing the same thing will you drop him?And how could I miss saying this.
Wynne is a crook that had fake budgets and paid people under the table. or just straight paying them off.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-independent-commission-accounting-practices-1.4831323MaRS Discovery District Can’t Pay Money Back After Huge Bailout Hid by Kathleen Wynne | BetaKit
“It’s another blatant attempt to hide it all from the taxpayers and the legislature," former Progressive Conservative MPP Frank Klees told reporters this morning. The Progressive Conservatives have obtained documents that say Kathleen Wynne's Liberal government secretly approved a $317 million...Since Wynne became premier number of teachers on Sunshine List nearly tripled, costing taxpayers $765M
Taxpayers were left with a $765-million bill to pay the salaries of the teachers who made the list in 2016, compared with $263 million in 2014 — one year after Wynn…Ontario Liberals Must Repay Secret Funds Funneled To Unions
If someone gave you $80.5 million dollars, you'd probably feel pretty good about them. You may want to shout it from the rooftops that you think they're great -- and you may even be willing to pay a million dollars or two to shout it, especially if it meant the money would keep rolling in. In...www.huffpost.com
Anything from McGuintiy and Wynne is pure shit.
Liberal corruption is insane but you guys will always look the other way for them.
and who is the architect of Thug Ford's economic shitshow?
Doug wants an election before the RCMP investigation ends.
He'll break the law to do it.
He'll break the law to do it.
So glad you asked
Ontario's financial constraints are rooted in too much debt
It became the largest non sovereign debt holder in the world under the Dalton the Dummy and Granny Wynne, who allowed Gerald Butts to guide them in the disastrous Gerald Butts green energy failure scheme, in addition to union appeasement which has Bob Rea's finger prints all over it
So to be specific, Dalton the Dummy, Granny Wynne, Bob Rea and Gerald Butts are the architects of Ontario's economic shitshow
A real team effort.
This an undeniable fact, so you can learn from the answer to your question or you can remain ignorant and socialist.
So glad you responded.
The "I need a new 'fuck you rubes up the ass' mandate alongside my remaining '17-month fucking you rubes up the ass' which on top of my 1st 4 year mandate of 'fucking you rubes up the ass' mandate premier added, get this, added:
$90 - $100 billion of brand new, deficit spending debt in just 6 short years!
And most of this brand new debt, some would say the like the world has never seen before, was saddled on the broken backs of good ole taxpayer folks to benefit the private sector.
What kinda idiot does that?
Oh yeah, a corrupt "shoving it up the ass of taxpayer folks with glee" Thug Fraud premier.
Does it matter? Fact is that Doug Ford has ballooned the debt, when he was supposed to be fiscally responsible. Lots of sectors are suffering as a result!!
Yeah it matters...You said she was the best premier of all time...If that's true why didn't Ontarians think so?
Ford is even worse than Wynne and one day will go down as the most fiscally irresponsible Premier in Ontario.And how could I miss saying this.
Wynne is a crook that had fake budgets and paid people under the table. or just straight paying them off.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-independent-commission-accounting-practices-1.4831323MaRS Discovery District Can’t Pay Money Back After Huge Bailout Hid by Kathleen Wynne | BetaKit
“It’s another blatant attempt to hide it all from the taxpayers and the legislature," former Progressive Conservative MPP Frank Klees told reporters this morning. The Progressive Conservatives have obtained documents that say Kathleen Wynne's Liberal government secretly approved a $317 million...Since Wynne became premier number of teachers on Sunshine List nearly tripled, costing taxpayers $765M
Taxpayers were left with a $765-million bill to pay the salaries of the teachers who made the list in 2016, compared with $263 million in 2014 — one year after Wynn…Ontario Liberals Must Repay Secret Funds Funneled To Unions
If someone gave you $80.5 million dollars, you'd probably feel pretty good about them. You may want to shout it from the rooftops that you think they're great -- and you may even be willing to pay a million dollars or two to shout it, especially if it meant the money would keep rolling in. In...
Anything from McGuintiy and Wynne is pure shit.
Liberal corruption is insane but you guys will always look the other way for them.
He has exceeded Wynne.s Debt to GDP ratio, and the Health Sector is now one of the worst among all provinces, thanks to his negligence!!
Doug Ford is partying like Kathleen Wynne
Given the crazy-high economic cost of raising money with taxes, Ontario's new spending needs to bring crazy-high benefits. It doesn't
Matthew Lau: Doug Ford is partying like Kathleen Wynne
Given crazy-high economic cost of raising money with taxes, Ontario's new spending needs to bring crazy-high benefits. It doesn't. Read on.
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Ford is an albatross around Ontario residents necks. He is far more fiscally irresponsible compared to Wynne.
We know that you will give him a pass as this $200 cheque is a bribe to elect him, so no surprise that he wants to now call an election!!
Hilarious that you think Ford is less corrupt than the previous Liberal Governments.....LOL!!
oracle does not catch the sarcasm.......LOL!!
When Douggie Boy was labelled "the best Premier in 34" years by a rightie but had a worse financial record than Wynn, then of course he has to be the second best .......ROTFLMAO!!
*Yawn*Ford is even worse than Wynne and one day will go down as the most fiscally irresponsible Premier in Ontario.
He has exceeded Wynne.s Debt to GDP ratio, and the Health Sector is now one of the worst among all provinces, thanks to his negligence!!
Doug Ford is partying like Kathleen Wynne
Given the crazy-high economic cost of raising money with taxes, Ontario's new spending needs to bring crazy-high benefits. It doesn't
Matthew Lau: Doug Ford is partying like Kathleen Wynne
Given crazy-high economic cost of raising money with taxes, Ontario's new spending needs to bring crazy-high benefits. It doesn't. Read on.
Ford is an albatross around Ontario residents necks. He is far more fiscally irresponsible compared to Wynne.
We know that you will give him a pass as this $200 cheque is a bribe to elect him, so no surprise that he wants to now call an election!!
Hilarious that you think Ford is less corrupt than the previous Liberal Governments.....LOL!!
There is no bigger crook and liar than Wynne. Maybe McGuinty.
Assuming you can, please read and understand.
Province’s chief accountant quit after refusing to sign off on Fedeli’s $15 billion deficit figure
The Ontario government’s chief accountant resigned earlier this fall because she refused to sign off on Finance Minister Vic Fedeli’s inflated $15 billion deficit, the Toronto Star has learned.
www.ourwindsor.ca
If you don't like reading, Then watch.
Ontario Liberals were exploiting holes in the accounting system. There budgets were all lies.
Doug Ford has to to perform under a more rigorous accounting standard.
Do you see what it says in the 2026-27 column? Tell me what it says.
And Ford took office just before Covid. Best Premier in 35 years. Deal with it.
Not sure what your chart refers to.*Yawn*
There is no bigger crook and liar than Wynne. Maybe McGuinty.
Assuming you can, please read and understand.
Province’s chief accountant quit after refusing to sign off on Fedeli’s $15 billion deficit figure
The Ontario government’s chief accountant resigned earlier this fall because she refused to sign off on Finance Minister Vic Fedeli’s inflated $15 billion deficit, the Toronto Star has learned.
If you don't like reading, Then watch.
Ontario Liberals were exploiting holes in the accounting system. There budgets were all lies.
Doug Ford has to to perform under a more rigorous accounting standard.
Do you see what it says in the 2026-27 column? Tell me what it says.
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And Ford took office just before Covid. Best Premier in 35 years. Deal with it.
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But read and learn, as everything is a direct comparison between Wynne and Ford as far as their fiscal responsibility was concerned.:
Ford to blame for Ontario’s surging debt
The bottom line is that six years into Ford’s time on the job, any excuses for his fiscal fiasco fall flat. Pictured: Ontario Premier Doug Ford. Photo Credit: Doug Ford/X.
Ontario’s debt has erupted like a volcano under Premier Doug Ford’s watch and he has no one to blame but himself.
Ford rode into office on a high horse. During the 2018 provincial election, he barnstormed the province, castigating the Wynne government as fiscally reckless. If elected, Ford pledged to end Ontario’s debt dive and straighten out the province’s finances.
But six years later, Ford has added $86 billion to the provincial debt. That means Ford added more debt to Ontario’s balance sheet than any other premier, save Dalton McGuinty.
That’s right: Ford’s fiscal record is worse than even his immediate predecessor, Kathleen Wynne.
Ford’s apologists generally come up with three excuses to take the heat off his dismal debt record: the situation inherited from the Liberals, the pandemic and a lack of government revenue.
All three excuses are hogwash. But let’s go through them in turn.
First, there’s the “blame the Liberals” argument.
It’s true that when Ford came to office, the Liberal government was running a large deficit. When the Wynne government presented its final budget, shortly before the 2018 election, then-finance minister Charles Sousa laid out a plan to spend $158.5 billion and run a $6-billion deficit.
After the election, did Ford come in and clean up the mess? Nope. Ford increased 2018 spending to $162.5 billion and exploded the deficit to $11.7 billion.
This is an apples-to-apples comparison: what the Liberals planned to spend during the 2018-19 fiscal year compared to what Ford chose to spend. The deficit and spending went up, not down.
Second, there’s the pandemic.
There’s no denying the pandemic presented a difficult situation for governments across the country. Ontario was no exception.
The pandemic threw the province’s finances off in 2020-21 and 2021-22. The year before the pandemic began, the Ford government laid out plans to run a $5.8-billion deficit in 2020-21 and a $4.6-billion deficit in 2021-22.
Instead, the Ford government ran deficits of $16.4 billion and $13.5 billion in 2020-21 and 2021-22, respectively.
Add the two pandemic years together, you get a deficit increase of $19.5 billion compared to what the Ford government planned prior to the pandemic.
There’s no question the Ford government could have spent more efficiently during the pandemic, but for now let’s give it a pass.
Even so, take $19.5 billion off Ford’s $86-billion debt tab and you still get $66.5 billion.
That means Ford added $66.5 billion to Ontario’s debt, even once you hand him a pass on the pandemic. That’s still $22.5 billion more than what Wynne added during her five years in power.
Third, let’s look at the revenue argument. Is it possible that Ford hasn’t been able to balance the books because revenue growth has been slow?
Just the opposite: when Finance Minister Peter Bethlenfalvy presented his 2024-25 budget, it laid out a plan to bring in $205.7 billion. That’s $54.9 billion more than the government’s first year in office, 2018-19.
Instead of taking advantage of nearly $55 billion in new revenue to balance the books, the Ford government drove up expenses by $52 billion.
As a final indictment of Ford’s record, let’s look at Wynne’s projected fiscal plans.
In 2018, in the Ontario Liberals’ final budget (one Ford condemned as reckless), Sousa presented a projected spending plan of $185.8 billion for 2024-25. Ford’s plan, presented in this year’s budget, is $28.7 billion higher.
While inflation in recent years has been higher than Sousa anticipated back in 2018, Canada’s supercharged inflation rates in 2022 and 2023 can only explain about half of the $28.7 billion in additional spending.
The bottom line is that six years into Ford’s time on the job, any excuses for his fiscal fiasco fall flat. He has vastly outspent the Liberals, jacked up the debt and won’t balance the budget despite $55 billion in revenue growth.
It’s time for the Ford government to quit the excuses, balance the books and pay down debt to put six sorry years of fiscal recklessness into the rear-view mirror.
Ford to blame for Ontario’s surging debt
The bottom line is that six years into Ford’s time on the job, any excuses for his fiscal fiasco fall flat. Pictured: Ontario Premier Doug Ford. Photo Credit: Doug Ford/X. Ontario’s debt has erupted like a volcano under Premier Doug Ford’s watch and he has no one to blame but himself. Ford...
But when you add that $80 Billion plus for that so called Tunnel Highway between Brampton and Scarborough, tell us if that is included in that Chart that you posted!!
He is still under RCMP Investigation:
Cronyism and corruption: The case for an investigation into Doug Ford’s policies - Spring
Since 1969, the Ontario Science Centre has stood as a beacon of educational enrichment and a beloved landmark. However, recent decisions by Premier Doug Ford have cast a shadow over its future. Known for its connections to influential developers and a history of prioritising private interests...
springmag.ca
So wait for that outcome........OKAY??
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Again,Not sure what your chart refers to.
But read and learn, as everything is a direct comparison between Wynne and Ford as far as their fiscal responsibility was concerned.:
Ford to blame for Ontario’s surging debt
The bottom line is that six years into Ford’s time on the job, any excuses for his fiscal fiasco fall flat. Pictured: Ontario Premier Doug Ford. Photo Credit: Doug Ford/X.
Ontario’s debt has erupted like a volcano under Premier Doug Ford’s watch and he has no one to blame but himself.
Ford rode into office on a high horse. During the 2018 provincial election, he barnstormed the province, castigating the Wynne government as fiscally reckless. If elected, Ford pledged to end Ontario’s debt dive and straighten out the province’s finances.
But six years later, Ford has added $86 billion to the provincial debt. That means Ford added more debt to Ontario’s balance sheet than any other premier, save Dalton McGuinty.
That’s right: Ford’s fiscal record is worse than even his immediate predecessor, Kathleen Wynne.
Ford’s apologists generally come up with three excuses to take the heat off his dismal debt record: the situation inherited from the Liberals, the pandemic and a lack of government revenue.
All three excuses are hogwash. But let’s go through them in turn.
First, there’s the “blame the Liberals” argument.
It’s true that when Ford came to office, the Liberal government was running a large deficit. When the Wynne government presented its final budget, shortly before the 2018 election, then-finance minister Charles Sousa laid out a plan to spend $158.5 billion and run a $6-billion deficit.
After the election, did Ford come in and clean up the mess? Nope. Ford increased 2018 spending to $162.5 billion and exploded the deficit to $11.7 billion.
This is an apples-to-apples comparison: what the Liberals planned to spend during the 2018-19 fiscal year compared to what Ford chose to spend. The deficit and spending went up, not down.
Second, there’s the pandemic.
There’s no denying the pandemic presented a difficult situation for governments across the country. Ontario was no exception.
The pandemic threw the province’s finances off in 2020-21 and 2021-22. The year before the pandemic began, the Ford government laid out plans to run a $5.8-billion deficit in 2020-21 and a $4.6-billion deficit in 2021-22.
Instead, the Ford government ran deficits of $16.4 billion and $13.5 billion in 2020-21 and 2021-22, respectively.
Add the two pandemic years together, you get a deficit increase of $19.5 billion compared to what the Ford government planned prior to the pandemic.
There’s no question the Ford government could have spent more efficiently during the pandemic, but for now let’s give it a pass.
Even so, take $19.5 billion off Ford’s $86-billion debt tab and you still get $66.5 billion.
That means Ford added $66.5 billion to Ontario’s debt, even once you hand him a pass on the pandemic. That’s still $22.5 billion more than what Wynne added during her five years in power.
Third, let’s look at the revenue argument. Is it possible that Ford hasn’t been able to balance the books because revenue growth has been slow?
Just the opposite: when Finance Minister Peter Bethlenfalvy presented his 2024-25 budget, it laid out a plan to bring in $205.7 billion. That’s $54.9 billion more than the government’s first year in office, 2018-19.
Instead of taking advantage of nearly $55 billion in new revenue to balance the books, the Ford government drove up expenses by $52 billion.
As a final indictment of Ford’s record, let’s look at Wynne’s projected fiscal plans.
In 2018, in the Ontario Liberals’ final budget (one Ford condemned as reckless), Sousa presented a projected spending plan of $185.8 billion for 2024-25. Ford’s plan, presented in this year’s budget, is $28.7 billion higher.
While inflation in recent years has been higher than Sousa anticipated back in 2018, Canada’s supercharged inflation rates in 2022 and 2023 can only explain about half of the $28.7 billion in additional spending.
The bottom line is that six years into Ford’s time on the job, any excuses for his fiscal fiasco fall flat. He has vastly outspent the Liberals, jacked up the debt and won’t balance the budget despite $55 billion in revenue growth.
It’s time for the Ford government to quit the excuses, balance the books and pay down debt to put six sorry years of fiscal recklessness into the rear-view mirror.
Ford to blame for Ontario’s surging debt
The bottom line is that six years into Ford’s time on the job, any excuses for his fiscal fiasco fall flat. Pictured: Ontario Premier Doug Ford. Photo Credit: Doug Ford/X. Ontario’s debt has erupted like a volcano under Premier Doug Ford’s watch and he has no one to blame but himself. Ford...niagaraindependent.ca
But when you add that $80 Billion plus for that so called Tunnel Highway between Brampton and Scarborough, tell us if that is included in that Chart that you posted!!
Province’s chief accountant quit after refusing to sign off on Fedeli’s $15 billion deficit figure
The Ontario government’s chief accountant resigned earlier this fall because she refused to sign off on Finance Minister Vic Fedeli’s inflated $15 billion deficit, the Toronto Star has learned.
www.ourwindsor.ca
You're not going to talk past this.
