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Biden issues pre-emptive pardons in final hours for Anthony Fauci, Liz Cheney, Milley and others

Mr.Gr33k

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Don't look at what you hear from pundits on TV. Look at what people say under oath.
Not one whit of testimony on this supposed corruption of Biden, EXCEPT by what we now know is a russian agent who was charged for lying under oath when making up stories about the Bidens.
A Ukrainian prosecutor was investigating Hunter Biden's involvement with Burisma. Joe Biden didn't like it and had the prosecutor fired.

Video of Biden senior bragging about it attached:

P.S: I'm surprised to find this video. Most videos have been miraculously removed/deleted
 

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Children born to foreign nationals

The Fourteenth Amendment provides that children born in the United States and subject to its jurisdiction become American citizens at birth. The principal framer John Armor Bingham said during the 39th United States Congress two years before its passing:[41]




At the time of the amendment's passage, President Andrew Johnson and three senators, including Trumbull, the author of the Civil Rights Act, asserted that both the Civil Rights Act[42][43] and the Fourteenth Amendment would confer citizenship to children born to foreign nationals in the United States.[44][45] Senator Edgar Cowan of Pennsylvania had a decidedly different opinion.[46] Some scholars dispute whether the Citizenship Clause should apply to the children of unauthorized immigrants today, as "the problem ... did not exist at the time".[47] In the 21st century, Congress has occasionally discussed passing a statute or a constitutional amendment to reduce the practice of "birth tourism", in which a foreign national gives birth in the United States to gain the child's citizenship.[48]

The clause's meaning with regard to a child of immigrants was tested in United States v. Wong Kim Ark (1898).[49] The Supreme Court held that under the Fourteenth Amendment, a man born within the United States to Chinese citizens who have a permanent domicile and residence in the United States and are carrying out business in the United States—and whose parents were not employed in a diplomatic or other official capacity by a foreign power—was a citizen of the United States. Subsequent decisions have applied the principle to the children of foreign nationals of non-Chinese descent.[50]

According to the Foreign Affairs Manual, which is published by the State Department, "Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad and U.S. diplomatic or consular facilities abroad are not part of the United States within the meaning of the [Fourteenth] Amendment."[51]


It's a fucking wiki article, Earp.

If you think you can pretend shit doesn't exist simply by being snide, Wiki exists to confound you.
Per the U.S. Citizenships and Immigration Services "Children born in the United States to accredited foreign diplomatic officers do not acquire citizenship under the 14th Amendment since they are not “born . . . subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.”

So do you believe that children of parents here illegally have more citizenship rights than children of foreign diplomats?

Can't we just agree without histrionics that the Courts should decide the matter? We are long way from 1898 where ease of travel and communications makes it easier to enter a foreign country for the express purpose of giving birth in a foreign domain. Additionally, the modern U.S. immigration system was developed and adapted throughout the 20th century.
 
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It's not exactly corruption. You have to prove there was some minimal amount of quid pro quo. You can't just say Trump was/is a friend of Israel.

kherg, leave the silly Ivanka trademarks in China to weak-minded members. Do you really want to make a case that Trump is a friend of China?
It happened. At any other point in us history that would be a fire-able offence at minimum, full scale investigation at max. Much of what trump did was unprecedented and would have been seen as corruption in the 1970s. Certainly any of this happens in Oz the party would dismiss you at a minimum, file charges at a max.
And if you're going to cite the current USSC definition of bribery then almost nothing is bribery these days.

However, you're right about quid pro quo, so apply the standard to Biden then show a) the money go to Joe, and b) the quid pro quo.
I believe government needs to not only avoid conflicts of interest (which lead to corruption) but the appearance of COI.
This has been so diminished over the past 8 years. I work all over the world. I see how corrupt 3rd world countries work. That's exactly where USA is going. And it always happens on a slippery slope.
 
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A Ukrainian prosecutor was investigating Hunter Biden's involvement with Burisma. Joe Biden didn't like it and had the prosecutor fired.

Video of Biden senior bragging about it attached:

P.S: I'm surprised to find this video. Most videos have been miraculously removed/deleted
 

WyattEarp

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How about Tiktok?

He's certainly friend-ish, isn't he?

What caused that sudden change?
Perhaps he thinks young people would appreciate him bailing out Tiktok.

Trump is friend-ish with China? Huh?
 

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It happened. At any other point in us history that would be a fire-able offence at minimum, full scale investigation at max. Much of what trump did was unprecedented and would have been seen as corruption in the 1970s. Certainly any of this happens in Oz the party would dismiss you at a minimum, file charges at a max.
And if you're going to cite the current USSC definition of bribery then almost nothing is bribery these days.

However, you're right about quid pro quo, so apply the standard to Biden then show a) the money go to Joe, and b) the quid pro quo.
I believe government needs to not only avoid conflicts of interest (which lead to corruption) but the appearance of COI.
This has been so diminished over the past 8 years. I work all over the world. I see how corrupt 3rd world countries work. That's exactly where USA is going. And it always happens on a slippery slope.
I agree with your sentiment. However, the Bush family had business interests with the Saudis and the Clintons were paid handsomely to simply make appearances around the world (Russia included) after Bill was Prez but prior to Hill running for the office.
 
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Fact check: Biden leveraged $1B in aid to Ukraine to oust corrupt prosecutor, not to help his son

Biden was so fckn concerned about a Ukrainian corrupt prosecutor that he decided to withhold 1 BILLION dollars? Give me a break. What kool aid are you drinking?

 

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'Rewarding Political Violence,' Felon Trump Pardons Jan. 6 Insurrectionists
"This move not only erases accountability for one of the darkest days in our nation's history but also emboldens far-right extremists and grants them free license to continue their ideological reign of terror," said one critic.

Democracy defenders on Monday night swiftly condemned U.S. President Donald Trump's decision to pardon roughly 1,500insurrectionists who stormed the Capitol on January 6, 2021 and commute the sentences of some others.

The widely anticipated move, which Trump made with television cameras in the Oval Office, came just hours after he returned to power on Monday afternoon—despite being convicted of 34 felonies in New York last year and facing various other legal cases, including for his attempts to overturn his 2020 loss to Democratic former President Joe Biden that culminated in inciting the 2021 Capitol attack.

"Just hours after promising to bring 'law and order back to our cities,' Trump pardoned more than a thousand January 6th rioters and put violent offenders right back in our neighborhoods—people who assaulted police officers, destroyed property, and tried to overturn our freedom to vote," said Sean Eldridge, president and founder of the progressive advocacy group Stand Up America, in a statement.

"By giving January 6th rioters a free pass, Trump is rewarding political violence and making all of us less safe," he continued. "No one should be above the law in the United States of America, and our first responders and the American people deserve better than this."


Joseph Geevarghese, executive director of the grassroots progressive political organizing group Our Revolution, said that "Trump's pardons of January 6 rioters, including those convicted of violence against law enforcement, mark a grave and unprecedented attack on the rule of law and American democracy. This move not only erases accountability for one of the darkest days in our nation's history but also emboldens far-right extremists and grants them free license to continue their ideological reign of terror."

"These are not patriots, these are traitors who will now be free to recruit others into what Trump views as his own personal militia," he asserted. "By granting clemency to these individuals, who sought to overturn the peaceful transfer of power, Trump is signaling that political violence and the rejection of democratic norms are acceptable tactics in service to his authoritarian agenda. This is a direct threat to the foundations of our democracy and the safety of our communities."


Lisa Gilbert, co-president of watchdog Public Citizen, said that "it is perhaps on-brand that Donald Trump has kicked off his second term with an assault on our democracy, just as he ended his first term."

"This isn't just about degrading the U.S. Constitution and the rule of law in theory, his disgraceful actions here send a message that political violence is acceptable, so long as it is in support of him and his pursuit of unchecked power," she continued. "We intend to fight against these types of abuses over the next four years to maintain the integrity of the rule of law."

Accusing the Republican of "condoning insurrection," Common Cause president and CEO Virginia Kase Solomón similarly warned that "this will not be the last time President Trump attacks democracy" and vowed that her organization stands "ready to defend it."

During the insurrection, Kase Solomón said, "people died and more than 140 law enforcement officers were injured protecting members of Congress from the attack that followed. These deaths and injuries should not be in vain. To pardon those involved is a blatant and dangerous abuse of power."

"Trump was charged with multiple crimes for his attempts to overturn the 2020 election which ended in the insurrection at the Capitol," she noted. "Only his reelection, coupled with an extremely misguided rulingfrom the Supreme Court on presidential immunity, allowed him to escape trial. In pardoning those who attempted to violently overturn the election and invalidate 80 million votes, Trump is showing his contempt for our justice system and our democracy."


Trump commuted the sentences of Jeremy Bertino, Joseph Biggs, Thomas Caldwell, Joseph Hackett, Kenneth Harrelson, Kelly Meggs, Roberto Minuta, David Moerschel, Ethan Nordean, Dominic Pezzola, Zachary Rehl, Stewart Rhodes, Edward Vallejo, and Jessica Watkins. The others—whom Trump called "hostages"—received "a full, complete, and unconditional pardon."

"I further direct the attorney general to pursue dismissal with prejudice to the government of all pending indictments against individuals for their conduct related to the events at or near the United States Capitol on January 6, 2021," Trump's order said. "The Bureau of Prisons shall immediately implement all instructions from the Department of Justice regarding this directive."

Shortly before leaving office on Monday, Biden issued a final wave of pardons, including for members of the U.S. House of Representatives select committee that investigated the insurrection. The Democrat said that he could not "in good conscience do nothing" to protect them and the pardons "should not be mistaken as an acknowledgment that any individual engaged in any wrongdoing, nor should acceptance be misconstrued as an admission of guilt for any offense."

 
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