pretty tough to play the old man with dementia when he was warned several times to give the documents back and repeatedly lied about it. The worst was he was recorded bragging about how he had documents that were not declassified. What a fucking moron.
Biden issues pre-emptive pardons in final hours for Anthony Fauci, Liz Cheney, Milley and others
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That is the best-case scenario - that there is a such a consistent smackdown in the lower courts that it makes the Supremes shy off of it.
I'm just not that optimistic.
Remember that Trump lost at every level of his immunity case and the the Supremes gave him more than his lawyer was asking for.
Now, a big part there is that the Supremes would get to decide what was an "official act" and this might annoy them because they won't be able to decide who is a "subject to the jurisdiction" going forward.
Roberts does like power.
But I think at this point, our big difference is in what we think the lower courts will do.
I don't think it will be nearly enough of a unanimous push against this EO to derail it.
I will say this: Trump should be tried and convicted for his major crimes: He sparked a violent insurrection to overthrow the will of the people. He attempted to get the governor of a state (Georgia) to change the vote count to favour him. In an election he has admitted he lost. Then there is all the shady shit with the classified documents. His behaviour about it screams suspicious. I mean, I would not fault him if he accidentally retained some stuff. Obama, Biden, Bush, Pence all had stuff. But, when it was discovered, the immediately called the proper authorities to collect it. Trump....did the opposite. He obstructed the government at every step. He moved documents around in the hopes to hide it from his own attorneys. There are credible allegations that he used top secret documents to "wow" guests at his resort, and that they were not kept in secure areas. That is problematic, and if you don't think so, you might be part of the problem.
As for some of the other charges, I'm meh about them. I mean, is anyone shocked that the Trump organization was unscrupulous and unethical in anything they do? I mean, I sort of agree that none of the banks complained or lost money, but by giving Trump the loans they probably didn't loan the money to more honest businesses. And, while it is certainly fraud, it was sort of a victimless crime.
But the main point here is that Trump is vindictive. He would have loved to see Biden impeached. He would love to have his DOJ put the screws to all those political opponents. But, that would be the definition of a fishing expedition, because we have heard no solid evidence that anyone in Biden's administration has done anything illegal.
There is a reason why those were the ones the most effort was spent on preventing coming to trial or letting any evidence come out.
White collar crime should be more prosecuted in general.
That he could crime for years and it was just not a priority to address (because there is so much white collar crime in New York) isn't great.
People forget that he did go after people with the government and justice department in term 1.
He just had a fair amount of pushback.
That eroded over the course of the first term and he is going to start from loyalists this time and make sure he can get to it much faster and more efficiently.
Here's what you don't understand about Hunter. If he was guilty, I think he should serve jail time. He was guilty. But, like Trump, this was a charge that is rarely prosecuted, so I don't feel too bad about him walking, considering Trump was facing significantly more severe charges.
As for Trump, he would have faced jail time. There is no ifs ands or buts about it. Jack Smith's case, at least the parts we were allowed to see, paint a very damning picture of his actions in the election interference case. The documents case could be worse, especially if they found he sold state secrets (which has been speculated, but I suspect he didn't).
The problem with all this is that the Supreme Court has basically said President's are mostly above the law. That is a major fucking problem, and one that we can all be sure Trump will exploit to his benefit.
As for following conservative media, buddy, I worked in conservative media. I know how they role. I know how they ignore negative stories on conservatives and torque up the bad ones for liberals. That was the only media outlet I worked at where political heads had final say on copy. Never got any push back from any other place. And, the reality here is that conservative media is all about the partisan politics (with very few exceptions). It's bad in Canada, even worse in the US.
Fauci reveals what happened after correcting Trump at 2020 Covid briefing
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Dr. Anthony Fauci sat down with CNN's Dr. Sanjay Gupta and revealed what happened after he corrected former President Donald Trump about hydroxychloroquine d...
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TB outbreaks in two states, bird flu on the rise and a new dangerous flu in Japan.Fauci reveals what happened after correcting Trump at 2020 Covid briefing
Fauci reveals what happened after correcting Trump at 2020 Covid briefing
Dr. Anthony Fauci sat down with CNN's Dr. Sanjay Gupta and revealed what happened after he corrected former President Donald Trump about hydroxychloroquine d...
Fortunately the US has the brain worm on the watch.
but he's in good shape. Sure he takes some HGH but that's ok, it's not a vaccine. LMAO
