Ceasefire in Gaza confirmed!!

niniveh

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Amazing how you can be racist against Arabs and Jews in one post, just to defend your genocidal obsession about jews who live in the middle east.


Oct 7 happened solely because Hamas was unhappy with the status quo and decided that war and suffering would be better.
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nottyboi

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You tell me because Hamas ordered hostages to be killed rather than rescued.

Of course we could talk about the morality of holding the elderly and toddlers hostage in the first place, not for any actions they committed but simply because they were Jews hamas was able to get hold of.
Well of course they are gonna say that, yet several were rescued and several escaped only to be shot by the IDF. Holding the toddlers with their mothers hostage and the elderly is IMHO far less immoral then shooting them in the head, blowing them to bits, burning them alive, starving them to death, allowing them to freeze to death, blowing of their little limbs, causing them to endure surgury without anesthesia. etc etc. Don't you agree? 🤔
 

nottyboi

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Do you think Hamas and the Palestinian people won the war?

p.s. Frank keeps telling us it wasn't a war.
It was a battle within a war. We all know its not the last one, maybe the another 30-40 more or so? The Israelis said the goal is to wipe out Hamas, and Hamas seems pretty un wiped out. In fact Hamas inflicted some very significant losses on the IDF and the put the Palestnian issue on the world map. As of today Israels repuatation is in tatters, it looks vulnerable, economy badly damaged, global boycott and leaders charged by the ICC. I think thats definitely a win.
 

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It was a battle within a war. We all know its not the last one, maybe the another 30-40 more or so?
So it's the whole war when it comes to Israel but only a 'battle' when it comes to hamas?

Again, did Hamas or the Palestinian people win this? there is more anger at Israel right now but how does that help the people in Gaza?
 
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nottyboi

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It's Hamas who said that. Thankfully a few Hamas people were either too moral or too incompetent to do it every time.

And no, kidnapping a woman and her toddlers is exactly the reason the war kicked off.
yes I know of course Hamas said that to deter Israeli rescue attempts jeez. What do you expect them to say? "if you try to rescue them, please let us know so we can have tea and crumpets prepared"?😂🤷‍♂️ So you are saying if the only killed the IDF soldiers, took a few hostage, and only took able bodied men and women hostage the Israeli govt would say "Nicely played, lets discuss the terms of exchange"?? I guess you don't agree that all those horrific acts I mentioned is wrong to do to toddlers. I guess you won't be father of the year.👌
 
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nottyboi

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It's a ceasefire, not and end to the war. In a few days, the Israelis will start killing people again.
I agree that is most likely. Israel will conduct some provocation. Hamas will respond and off we go. It depends of who was lying. I think an early end to the ceasefire will make Trump look weak and not in control. I don't think he likes that and esp so early in his presidency, The Trump clan is a business clan, and the Arabs and Chiense have vastly more business potential then the Israelis Espeicially now they have turned their nation into an uninvestable mess. So its not without hope but faint hope. Maybe the Saudis offered some opportunities in Neom if they make Gaza merely bad again.
 

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The Trump clan is a business clan, and the Arabs and Chiense have vastly more business potential then the Israelis
Who doesn't have more business potential than a tiny little rogue state? Imagine all the business the US could get throughout the world, if they didn't have the Israeli weight around their neck.
 

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It was a battle within a war. We all know its not the last one, maybe the another 30-40 more or so? The Israelis said the goal is to wipe out Hamas, and Hamas seems pretty un wiped out. In fact Hamas inflicted some very significant losses on the IDF and the put the Palestnian issue on the world map. As of today Israels repuatation is in tatters, it looks vulnerable, economy badly damaged, global boycott and leaders charged by the ICC. I think thats definitely a win.
What reputation do you think Hamas has established amongst reasonable, powerful and influential nations of the world? I'll tell you - amoral terrorists who are not to be trusted and who will turn to violence when their unconvincing arguments about establishing a nation are not accepted by the world. They have the ear of Iran, a rogue state, but do not have the support of any nation who could actually help them achieve any of their goals. That result is even worse than the military devastation suffered by them in the war. Hamas lost this war in every way possible.
 
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Dutch Oven

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Who doesn't have more business potential than a tiny little rogue state? Imagine all the business the US could get throughout the world, if they didn't have the Israeli weight around their neck.
I suppose that's the way a pest control company views an infestation of cockroaches. However, it wouldn't be how a responsible pubic health agency views the same problem.
 

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What reputation do you think Hamas has established amongst reasonable, powerful and influential nations of the world? I'll tell you - amoral terrorists who are not to be trusted and who will turn to violence when their unconvincing arguments about establishing a nation are not accepted by the world. They have the ear of Iran, a rogue state, but do not have the support of any nation who could actually help them achieve any of their goals. That result is even worse than the military devastation suffered by them in the war. Hamas lost this war in every way possible.
Delusional
 
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Just shows to go that you and Israel support arresting children.

This is what zionism means to the world now

So now you speak for the world 😂
Palestinians brought it on themselves. Hamas will rather kill their own civilians than to give up the hostages. But civilians actually support Hamas, so lets stop the whining.
 
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