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Ceasefire in Gaza confirmed!!

Frankfooter

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In light of that, are you agreeing that it was dumb for hamas to launch that terror attack on Oct. 7?
I agree that Netanyahu was dumb to let Oct 7 happen when knew, dumb to enact the Hannibal Doctrine and dumb to commit genocide.
Israel is stupid in thinking that the occupation of Palestine and wiping it off the maps is a reasonable path forward.

Now zionism will infect western countries

 

shack

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Musk's speech and salute are what happens when zionism infects other countries.
You get things like the TikTok ban, militant attacks on students and protesters, attacks on the free press and importing IDF policing techniques.
Posts like this happen only when you are around.

What you are also undeniably saying is that Zionism is not dying. It is spreading.
 
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shack

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I agree that Netanyahu was dumb to .....
No, no, no, no no. We're talking about hamas' actions.

You said this:

Frankfooter said:
Hamas is not an army.
They have no tanks, heavy guns, jets, navy or drones.


Yet they provoked the bear when they knew there would be retaliation from Israel. How could it be anything other than dumb? Unless you just call it evil because they knew that Gazans would be the ones paying the price.

If you want to talk about Net and Israel being dumb I can do that for you. But first, let's have an honest discussion about hamas' actions. I say that they were dumb. What is your opinion on hamas attacking Israel when they have no army, no tanks, no jets navy or drones.
 
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Klatuu

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No, no, no, no no. We're talking about hamas' actions.

You said this:

Frankfooter said:
Hamas is not an army.
They have no tanks, heavy guns, jets, navy or drones.


Yet they provoked the bear when they knew there would be retaliation from Israel. How could it be anything other than dumb? Unless you just call it evil because they knew that Gazans would be the ones paying the price.

If you want to talk about Net and Israel being dumb I can do that for you. But first, let's have an honest discussion about hamas' actions. I say that they were dumb. What is your opinion on hamas attacking Israel when they have no army, no tanks, no jets navy or drones.
Wife beater logic
 
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Dutch Oven

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I suppose that's the way a zionist views all gentiles. However, it wouldn't be how an egalitarian views the same people.
Egalitarianism is a fantasy, because no one wants to surrender what they have earned as a result of their own ingenuity and effort at the simple demand of a less deserving person. I don't want to live in a society/world where criminals and murderers can demand the same rights and opportunities as those making positive contributions to society. Some rights have to be earned. There is a social contract.

Hamas and its supporters simply do not deserve statehood. The responsible nations of the world understand that planting weeds is a bad idea, because weeds spread, compromise surrounding gardens, use up resources, and produce nothing of value.

There wouldn't even be a Palestinian demand for statehood if Iran wasn't putting its proxies up to it, and if the objective of statehood wasn't the termination of the state of Israel.

No thank you to rogue egalitarianism.
 

Klatuu

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Egalitarianism is a fantasy, because no one wants to surrender what they have earned as a result of their own ingenuity and effort at the simple demand of a less deserving person. I don't want to live in a society/world where criminals and murderers can demand the same rights and opportunities as those making positive contributions to society. Some rights have to be earned. There is a social contract.

Hamas and its supporters simply do not deserve statehood. The responsible nations of the world understand that planting weeds is a bad idea, because weeds spread, compromise surrounding gardens, use up resources, and produce nothing of value.

There wouldn't even be a Palestinian demand for statehood if Iran wasn't putting its proxies up to it, and if the objective of statehood wasn't the termination of the state of Israel.

No thank you to rogue egalitarianism.
Poorly educated
 
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Go Trump GOOOO, this must make all Muslims, Arabs and Palestinians who bad-mouthed good ole Joe and Kamala proud!!! LOL


Rubio Backs Israel: 'How Can Any Nation... Coexist Side-By-Side With A Group Of Savages Like Hamas?

 
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basketcase

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Israel has wiped Palestine off the maps and you don't think that's a provocation.
Keep repeating that meaningless statement. Jordan wiped the Palestinian state off the map in 1949 when they annexed it but you are racistly incapable of seeing Arabs as being responsible for their choices.
 
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basketcase

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As you see in the recent images of thousands of well-fed Gazans — some with 'press' vests — surrounding armed, uniformed Hamas soldiers all mocking and jeering the Israeli hostages held since October 7, 2023, remember the lies you were told about ethnic cleansing, genocide, and starvation in Gaza.

Then remember that ethnic cleansing, genocide, starvation, (and slavery) ARE happening in Sudan, Libya, Mauritania, Nigeria, Syria, Iraq and elsewhere — by jihadists just like Hamas.

There definitely was starvation in Gaza. Just not among Hamas and their friends. I wonder if has anything to do with the number of aid shipments that got hijacked by armed men?
 
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nottyboi

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Hamas' reputation which they admitted to in several interviews with western news was that they are willing to sacrifice as many Palestinians as needed to keep the conflict going.
Why is that shocking? You can translate that anyway you want it, but they are saying, they will fight to the last Palestinian. Would Israel not do the same thing to defend Israel? History indicates no. 👌
 

nottyboi

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I know you think Israel existing is a provocation but that's just your issues showing.
No they don't just exist, they keep attacking Palis in the West back, abusing them, stealing, beating etc etc its 7x24x365 and have thousands of hostages that have not be charged with any crime, including women, children, infants. All imprisoned in harsh conditions and subject to abuse, beatings and torture.
 
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shack

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But Frank needs to turn every thread into part of his crusade.
When I was banned, I couldn't post, but I could still read the postings. The Politics Forum, was quite civil and quiet.

As soon as he comes back, the whole place gets riled up again with his antics and accusations. He has a horrible influence on the board.

Since returning, I've been trying very hard to tone down the volume on my posts but he seems to be back just as evil as he always was. I try not to engage him as much but it's tough to let his "crusade" go unchallenged. I only have the one handle so I need to be careful. Who knows how many handles he has?
 
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whynot888

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Why is that shocking? You can translate that anyway you want it, but they are saying, they will fight to the last Palestinian. Would Israel not do the same thing to defend Israel? History indicates no. 👌
I would not call it a genocide then more like kamikaze lol
 

nottyboi

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I would not call it a genocide then more like kamikaze lol
It would be if they were attacking, but since they are occupied and fighing an occupier Israel has no right under international law to claim right of self defence.👌👍
 

whynot888

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It would be if they were attacking, but since they are occupied and fighing an occupier Israel has no right under international law to claim right of self defence.👌👍
Thats because they FAFO, and now they gettin' lit up crying like sheep
 
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