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nottyboi said:
I am glad to hear the Biden and Harris paid a price for this. It does gladden my heart that our Southern cousins are not immune to the carnage their govt is causing against their will. It remains to be seen what Trump will do, but you have to punish the deed, and if he is just as bad, you can punish him in the mid terms.
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I'm sure Arab Americans will be so happy that instead of Democrats who pushed a middle line, they now have Trump to deal with, the same guy who tried to implement a Muslim ban.
 
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mellowjello said:
Doesn't matter who doesn't like who. Doesn't matter how many Jews are against it, it's all irrelevant.
It's U.S. foreign policy, everyone will pay the price for it... it's not going to change because voters are up in arms. They have no choice.
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The US like Canada is to some extent a corporate oligarchy. That said, I don't know of other systems that are more respectful of the individuals that make up the state.

But I'm sure a few people on terb will claim it's Jews.
 
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nottyboi said:
That was a war of ideology. USA vs communism. Gaza is not even Americans dying,
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And western style democracy vs Iranian authoritarianism isn't a similar conflict? The current cold war is between the US led NATO world and the Russia, Iran, North Korea alliance with India and China playing whatever sides they think will most benefit them.
 
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Frankfooter said:
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AIPAC must have a ton of shit on all those representatives, their handlers must be keeping tabs.
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Franks usual racist tripe, blaming a Jewish pro-Israel organization even though he knows that Christians United for Israel are by far the largest and most powerful lobby.
 
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Leimonis said:
What would happen if America stopped supporting israel and it would lead to arabs slaughtering and ethnically cleansing Jews from the river to the sea?

The reputation of the United States would likely suffer profound consequences on multiple fronts if it ceased supporting Israel, resulting in large-scale violence or ethnic cleansing of Jewish populations by Arab states or groups. The impact would depend on the global and domestic context, but here are some likely scenarios:
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Didn't stop Trump from abandoning the Kurds, not that any of the people worried about Palestinians care about the Kurds. Wonder why?
 
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PeterParker1000 said:
Most people in then United States did not care what was happening in Israel and Palestine despite the media sensationalization. Immigration, inflation, and the waste of money in Ukraine were what the AVERAGE person cared about.
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Meaning that people's opinion of the state of the Middle east was a non- political factor.
 
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Leimonis said:
They can’t address it because they can’t admit they actually want all of those things to happen.
One more proof that they only understand the language in which IDF is speaking.
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Israel needs to be treated like Germany after WWII.
With full Nuremberg style trials and the end of zionism.

Israel can exist the way that Germany existed after WWII.

Wiping Palestine off the map through genocide is all that zionism represents.

 
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basketcase said:
And western style democracy vs Iranian authoritarianism isn't a similar conflict? The current cold war is between the US led NATO world and the Russia, Iran, North Korea alliance with India and China playing whatever sides they think will most benefit them.
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Isreal a western style demnocracy? Really? OMG If that were the case we would have terrorist movements.
 
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basketcase said:
Yes. And even the only reason why she lost those states was the war in Gaza like the dumb analysis pretends, 226 + 36 =?
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Well that and being a dingbat. But Biden did win them and not by a large margin so 19M votes can easily swing those states that's why they are the swing states.
 
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