Danielle Smith turns her back on Canada...

JohnLarue

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-premiers-trudeau-meeting-trump-tariffs-1.7431085

Does this surprise anyone? She did not even attend the meeting joined remotely from Panama. What a traitor!! She is probably trying to buy the Canal for her master Trump

perhaps if eastern Canada had not supported the attack on the Alberta economic engine for the past 9 years , Alberta might not be so comfortable looking to secure its interests first and foremost
the message was, we do not need your dirty tar sands and we are going to try and stop you from selling your product

but now the message is we desperately need your precious energy to use as leverage
oh and by the way , the leverage strategy is we are going to try and stop you from selling your product to the US

its pretty tough to create a team approach after treating a teammate like a dirty polluting asshole for nine years and taking billions in royalties and transfer payments from the same teammate

what did you expect?
 

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I don't have the data but I believe the volume of oil imported from AB
is insignificant. It should be easy to meet Ontario's oil demand with imports
from Gulf States and the U.S. entirely. But without natural gas supply from
western Canada some of us will be frozen in winter.
do not forget about the billions in royalties / transfer payments Ottawa / Quebec would lose.
the loonie would become become next to worthless, given the debt Justin has racked up.
all foreign investment in Canada would evaporate
Saskatchewan would jump ship as well

If Canada is to be governed by Liberals sharing Steven Gulbeault's
commitment to zero emission into the future annexation of the oil-rich
province by Trump could be one way for AB's oil industry to save
itself from climate change.
you missed a word
could be one way for AB's oil industry to save itself from climate change zelots
 
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perhaps if eastern Canada had not supported the attack on the Alberta economic engine for the past 9 years , Alberta might not be so comfortable looking to secure its interests first and foremost
the message was, we do not need your dirty tar sands and we are going to try and stop you from selling your product

but now the message is we desperately need your precious energy to use as leverage
oh and by the way , the leverage strategy is we are going to try and stop you from selling your product to the US

its pretty tough to create a team approach after treating a teammate like a dirty polluting asshole for nine years and taking billions in royalties and transfer payments from the same teammate

what did you expect?
Yeah tried to stop the prodict by spending billions on a new pipline to the ocean so AB could get a higher price for its filthy product. What an odd perspective you have.
 
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Yeah tried to stop the prodict by spending billions on a new pipline to the ocean so AB could get a higher price for its filthy product. What an odd perspective you have.
there were 4 privately funded pipelines project ready to go when Trudeau came to power
he intentional killed three and painted himself into corner and had to over pay for the fourth

do not try and pretend Alberta owes Ottawa
oh yes, do not forget that this was the Trudeau 2.0 nightmare for Alberta


What an odd perspective you have.
your perspective is

lets create a team approach after treating a teammate like a dirty polluting asshole for nine years and taking billions in royalties and transfer payments from the same teammate

again, what did you expect ?

you still are calling energy a "filthy product" but now you desperately want to use that " filthy product" as leverage
can you say hypocrisy ?
 

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Anyone arguing against Danielle Smith is economically illiterate.

Alberta basically subsidizes everyone else with Quebec getting 13.3 billion last year and Ontario second just under 600 million.

And people expect Alberta to be the sacrificial lamb by putting counter tariffs on their best export? Thats economic suicide why would she sign up for that?
 

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Anyone arguing against Danielle Smith is economically illiterate.
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They should say thanks to Saudi and other gulf states every time
they fill up at a gas pump. Without import of more ethical oil from
the Middle East they would have to beg Danielle Smith to export
AB's oil to Ontario instead of Trump's America and not to diversify
AB's economy from oil.
 

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Anyone arguing against Danielle Smith is economically illiterate.

Alberta basically subsidizes everyone else with Quebec getting 13.3 billion last year and Ontario second just under 600 million.

And people expect Alberta to be the sacrificial lamb by putting counter tariffs on their best export? Thats economic suicide why would she sign up for that?
Everyone has gotta be willing to put their most valuable chips on the table, its pointless doing it with products they can soruce readily elsewhere. So that means electricity in Ontario and Quebec, Oil Alberta, maybe some metal products in Quebec and Ontario Perhaps Natural Gas from BC. IT also depends on the approach, no embargos and export tax. So it makes the commodity available, but imposes cost. Its possible the US can replace some of AB oil with oil from their SPR, as well. In which case its a good time to insist the Feds fund an SPR of at least 100m bbls
 
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If Canada is not united in response to Trump, he will divide and conquer. Smith is an Alberta separatist and hates Canada. Quebec is more loyal than Alberta....sad for the nation.
Separation can be guaranteed not to happen if we vote out
the administration of Trudeau and his Liberals this year.

You too might want to separate from Canada if the government
ordered your business to reduce net emission to zero.
 

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Ford can stand up to Trump but bows down to Trudeau. He didn't fight for anyone that pays his salary.
lol, you are talking like this is suppose to be bad. You are probably one of these retards that believe Canada will be a 51st state.

And please watch that meeting again. Ford runs the table. Ontario runs the table. Trudeau bowed down to him.
 
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She has a constitutional right to defend Alberta's resources and a responsibility to protect jobs in Alberta. I see nothing wrong. When she speaks she is very clear and transparent. Frankly we need more intelligent politicians like her instead of the Olivia Chows and Freelands of the world.
 

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If Canada is not united in response to Trump, he will divide and conquer. Smith is an Alberta separatist and hates Canada. Quebec is more loyal than Alberta....sad for the nation.
what did you expect when the federal govt has spent the last nine years trying to shut down Alberta's economic engine?

I have stated many times Canadians would pay a a big price for electing the moron Trudeau
His number one responsibility as PM was to hold the country together
Instead he implemented the Gerald Butts plan.


Quebec should be shitting their pants.
What will they do without the Alberta transfer payments?
 
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Everyone has gotta be willing to put their most valuable chips on the table, its pointless doing it with products they can soruce readily elsewhere. So that means electricity in Ontario and Quebec, Oil Alberta, maybe some metal products in Quebec and Ontario Perhaps Natural Gas from BC. IT also depends on the approach, no embargos and export tax. So it makes the commodity available, but imposes cost. Its possible the US can replace some of AB oil with oil from their SPR, as well. In which case its a good time to insist the Feds fund an SPR of at least 100m bbls
now you want to stock pile the "filthy product" ?

why not stock pile the energy from 'renewables' instead
Hmm,..... Oh Yeah.... you cant


And now you want the Feds to fund the purchase of 100m bbls of the "filthy product" ?
Hmm,..... Oh Yeah....they cant because....... they spent all the money already.

A real advanced planner / thinker you are.
 

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She has a constitutional right to defend Alberta's resources and a responsibility to protect jobs in Alberta. I see nothing wrong. When she speaks she is very clear and transparent. Frankly we need more intelligent politicians like her instead of the Olivia Chows and Freelands of the world.
She also has a constitutional obligation to protect the citizens of Alberta from the (now very apparent) self destruction plans of the Trudeau Federal govt.
 
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what did you expect when the federal govt has spent the last nine years trying to shut down Alberta's economic engine?

I have stated many times Canadians would pay a a big price for electing the moron Trudeau
His number one responsibility as PM was to hold the country together
Instead he implemented the Gerald Butts plan.


Quebec should be shitting their pants.
What will they do without the Alberta transfer payments?
You hit the nail on the head - thank god there are some intelligent people that understand the absolute clusterfuck that is Trudeau and company.
GDP per capita is down 40% compared to the USA, since 2015, and the civil service is up 42%, our population has grown by 14%. The poor have literally been crippled by the Liberals.
People have no clue about economics. I worked in finance for decades and it is so sad to hear my friends who think PP is evil while Trudeau have fucked Canada big time.
Debt interest at all levels of government is now approaching $100 billion a year, which does zero to provide any social programs.
That's another thing that pisses me off, Freeland talking about the GDP debt ratio, it is an absolute disgrace that the media is not reporting or calling her out on it.
Any accountant would rip it to shreds, it is disgraceful and deliberately misleading to the Canadian people.
I feel sorry for PP, he will have to make very hard choices that were caused 100% by the 10 years of Trudeau incompetence, corruption and fraud.
 

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Anyone arguing against Danielle Smith is economically illiterate.

Alberta basically subsidizes everyone else with Quebec getting 13.3 billion last year and Ontario second just under 600 million.

And people expect Alberta to be the sacrificial lamb by putting counter tariffs on their best export? Thats economic suicide why would she sign up for that?
$600M is not a lot of money is government budget terms.
 
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