Danielle Smith turns her back on Canada...

nottyboi

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what did you expect when the federal govt has spent the last nine years trying to shut down Alberta's economic engine?

I have stated many times Canadians would pay a a big price for electing the moron Trudeau
His number one responsibility as PM was to hold the country together
Instead he implemented the Gerald Butts plan.


Quebec should be shitting their pants.
What will they do without the Alberta transfer payments?
You know Albertas GDP is less then 15% of Canada right? Also, you assume oil and gas will remain valuable forever. Alberta is already Americas bitch, do you think that situation will get worse or better if it leaves Canada? 🤣
 

jalimon

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And all the current government wants to do is shut it down permanently.
That's not at all what the Liberals did. Alberta is doing well—except in 2021 when the Federal government had to inject 30 billion into Alberta.

Which told us that Alberta needs to diversify!! They need to develop other sector of industry.
 
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nottyboi

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now you want to stock pile the "filthy product" ?

why not stock pile the energy from 'renewables' instead
Hmm,..... Oh Yeah.... you cant


And now you want the Feds to fund the purchase of 100m bbls of the "filthy product" ?
Hmm,..... Oh Yeah....they cant because....... they spent all the money already.

A real advanced planner / thinker you are.
Actually you can, there are several storage options and many more in development.
 

nottyboi

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why did you need Trump to identify the traitors for you?
Trudeau & Gerald Butts were identified way back when they perverted our justice system in the SNC scandal
Trudeau & Gerald Butts have been putting a Globalist agenda ahead of Canadas interest since day 1

Trump prays on weakness and we have the weakest most corrupt PM in Canadian history
What Trudeau tried to do with SNC was what every major competitor of Canada already does. When he was subverted by that backstabbing cunt, the court process delivered an even more lenient penalty then what was prescribed by the deferred prosecution legislation, after spening millions more of taxpayers money in the judicial process.
 

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why did you need Trump to identify the traitors for you?
Trudeau & Gerald Butts were identified way back when they perverted our justice system in the SNC scandal
Trudeau & Gerald Butts have been putting a Globalist agenda ahead of Canadas interest since day 1

Trump prays on weakness and we have the weakest most corrupt PM in Canadian history
Johnny LaRue is totally into butts, he should change his name to Dick Assman.
 

nottyboi

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That's not at all what the Liberals did. Alberta is doing well—except in 2021 when the Federal government had to inject 30 billion into Alberta.

Which told us that Alberta needs to diversify!! They need to develop other sector of industry.
Yup the Federal govt that is trying to destroy AB provided BILLIONS to ensure oilpatch workers remained employed when demand imploded. AND they provided BILLIONS in funding to deal with orphan wells that pour toxins into the air Albertans breath. Not to mention all the natural disaster assistance for Ft McMurray and Calgary etc etc. The NET zero program was a response to Americans and European lobbyists that coined the phrase TAR SANDS OIL. Instead the Feds wanna make Canadian oil squeaky clean AND help the companies pay for the carbon capture so they can actually turn it into a source of revenue!! AB may hate Trudeau, but he has not hestiated to fund the AB economy.
 

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Premier Smith one of the GOATs for sure. Shed make a great PM.

What kind of dumb dumb far left politicians like the closet liberal Doug Ford think theyre gona do by waging a trade war on a country with 10 times the population? Thats called economic suicide for all the financially illiterate sheep. We’re sure gona “teach” Trump a lesson by rattling our sabre lmao bunch of buffoons running this country, with an army of sheep behind them.
Gee, guess you were running backwards with your tail between your legs when Hitler was advancing?

The Orange Shit Stain will only be around for 4 more years at the most. If the world is lucky the old fuck will die sooner than that, somehow hopefully with a lot of pain involved.
 

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Yup the Federal govt that is trying to destroy AB provided BILLIONS to ensure oilpatch workers remained employed when demand imploded. AND they provided BILLIONS in funding to deal with orphan wells that pour toxins into the air Albertans breath. Not to mention all the natural disaster assistance for Ft McMurray and Calgary etc etc. The NET zero program was a response to Americans and European lobbyists that coined the phrase TAR SANDS OIL. Instead the Feds wanna make Canadian oil squeaky clean AND help the companies pay for the carbon capture so they can actually turn it into a source of revenue!! AB may hate Trudeau, but he has not hestiated to fund the AB economy.
Post of the year and it's only January.

I'm so tired of hearing Alberta bitch and whine. The hardships they go through with oil has nothing to do with the federal government and everything to do with the fact that the province 100% depends on the oil and gas sector because they refuse to diversify, like every other province does.

And complain -- all Alberta does is complain, complain, complain. Fucking province of Karens.

I remember reading how when the Canada Wheat Board was formed in the 1930s most grain shipments were going through Thunder Bay to Europe. The concept of "pool sharing" was applied where all farmers in the Prairies got paid the same amount for their wheat even though the average cost to ship grain by rail from Alberta to Thunder Bay was much higher than from Manitoba or Saskatchewan to Thunder Bay.

Saskatchewan and Manitoba didn't complain that they were subsidizing Alberta -- it was for the benefit and economic health of the entire Canadian grain industry.

But when grain shipments shifted to Asian markets in the mid-1970s, most of the grain began heading west through Vancouver. What happens? Alberta complained that they were subsidizing the higher freight from Saskatchewan and Manitoba.

At least Alberta is consistent!
 

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To be honest, Alberta is the worst of Conservatives you can find in Canada.

They don't know how to govern. All they know is make money from oil. They would never last anywhere else in Canada.

Basically the province version of Saudi Arabia.

This situation is highlighting their lack of negotiating skills and their ability to diversify their economy.
Shrug, that describes the rest of Canada as well. It also describes most oil countries - except for Norway. The Nordic region is an exception to many things. We've gone soft doing the easy stuff on extracting our resource wealth and the US being generous with us. Both are changing and it's going to be tough.
 

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you never heard the term divide and conquer? Maybe Trudeau should put an export tariff on TMX to reimburse the govt After all its his job to look after ALL Canadians.
AFAIK Smith took the initiative on her own. If you're not aware, she's been touring the United States for the last two weeks, talking to anyone she can about Alberta.

She is the Premier of Alberta, not he Premier of Canada. It's too bad there is, for good reasons, a vacuum at the top and thus others have stepped in.

I mean, HOW could she not trust the current Federal Government run by a Trudeau not to look after AB's best interests :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:. Kill the oil industry and save the climate at the same time. :ROFLMAO:
 

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I mean, HOW could she not trust the current Federal Government run by a Trudeau not to look after AB's best interests :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:. Kill the oil industry and save the climate at the same time. :ROFLMAO:
Dude that's where we are telling you you are wrong. The federal as done a fucking lot for Alberta. They are not trying to kill it at all. That's all a premise infringed in your maga mind because you do not like one individual...
 

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What Trudeau tried to do with SNC was what every major competitor of Canada already does.
you are attempting to justify the perversion of our justice system for political reasons
no way he does that for an alberta company

When he was subverted by that backstabbing cunt, the court process delivered an even more lenient penalty then what was prescribed by the deferred prosecution legislation, after spening millions more of taxpayers money in the judicial process.
just like Trudeau you have zero understanding of the responsibilities of public office

The minister of Justice has to uphold the laws and apply them equally
Not pick and choose depending on who are friends with our idiot P

JWR acted with the integrity her position demanded
if the SNC issue was so above board, no reason for Gerald Butts to resign in disgrace
It should have cost Trudeau his job as well and now Canada is paying a huge price for not removing him from the PM job

And this was only one of the many scandals that should have been the end of Justin Trudeau as PM
Justin Trudeau is Canadas curse

Had a conservative PM done this he/she would have been destroyed

you are bent
 
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JohnLarue

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AFAIK Smith took the initiative on her own. If you're not aware, she's been touring the United States for the last two weeks, talking to anyone she can about Alberta.

She is the Premier of Alberta, not he Premier of Canada. It's too bad there is, for good reasons, a vacuum at the top and thus others have stepped in.

I mean, HOW could she not trust the current Federal Government run by a Trudeau not to look after AB's best interests :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:. Kill the oil industry and save the climate at the same time. :ROFLMAO:
exactly
 

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Post of the year and it's only January.

I'm so tired of hearing Alberta bitch and whine. The hardships they go through with oil has nothing to do with the federal government and everything to do with the fact that the province 100% depends on the oil and gas sector because they refuse to diversify, like every other province does.

And complain -- all Alberta does is complain, complain, complain. Fucking province of Karens.

I remember reading how when the Canada Wheat Board was formed in the 1930s most grain shipments were going through Thunder Bay to Europe. The concept of "pool sharing" was applied where all farmers in the Prairies got paid the same amount for their wheat even though the average cost to ship grain by rail from Alberta to Thunder Bay was much higher than from Manitoba or Saskatchewan to Thunder Bay.

Saskatchewan and Manitoba didn't complain that they were subsidizing Alberta -- it was for the benefit and economic health of the entire Canadian grain industry.

But when grain shipments shifted to Asian markets in the mid-1970s, most of the grain began heading west through Vancouver. What happens? Alberta complained that they were subsidizing the higher freight from Saskatchewan and Manitoba.

At least Alberta is consistent!
Which means its also time to compare Norway and Alberta and their policy towards developing fossil fuels.
In that debate, socialist policy wipes the conservative policy off the planet.
 

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You know Albertas GDP is less then 15% of Canada right?
If is such a small silver as you say, then its not such an important leverage against the US that you incorrectly assumed you could apply
lets just deny them our exports of Heinz Ketchup and PEI potatoes instead
That will get Trump to back off , apparently he loves fires with his burgers


Also, you assume oil and gas will remain valuable forever. Alberta is already Americas bitch, do you think that situation will get worse or better if it leaves Canada?
after nine years of Trudeau, Alberta's situation can only get better

any chance Trump offered D Smith multiple pipelines to tidewater, an end to insane Ecowarrior regulation, an end to transfer payments and full market price on their oil last week ?
Perhaps you should be thanking D. Smith for not jumping all over that immediately as it would be the end of Canada
She has confirmed her pride in being Canadian many many times

There is a price for everything and you are just now seeing the price for your unconditional support of a complete moron Trudeau
 

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Half of canadians are 200$ away from going under.


Must be trump and danielle smiths fault.

CAD is becoming the new toilet paper. Must be Danielle smiths fault.
 

nottyboi

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If is such a small silver as you say, then its not such an important leverage against the US that you incorrectly assumed you could apply
lets just deny them our exports of Heinz Ketchup and PEI potatoes instead
That will get Trump to back off , apparently he loves fires with his burgers




after nine years of Trudeau, Alberta's situation can only get better

any chance Trump offered D Smith multiple pipelines to tidewater, an end to insane Ecowarrior regulation, an end to transfer payments and full market price on their oil last week ?
Perhaps you should be thanking D. Smith for not jumping all over that immediately as it would be the end of Canada
She has confirmed her pride in being Canadian many many times

There is a price for everything and you are just now seeing the price for your unconditional support of a complete moron Trudeau
We exert pressure where we can, the Canadian GDP is 10% of the USA on a good day. So we need to pick areas that will hurt them, where ordinary Americans will feel the pain and exert political pressure on the govt. Who knows if things will get better for AB. I am hoping the Russian sanctions will drive up oil prices, we can settle with Trump and Canadian oil stocks will be a bit more fairly valued. Then I plan to get out of hydo carbons mostly as the Chinese will be pouring 60M EVs on the market a year..that's just China. The number of non car EVs is never considered. Last year I travelled about 1500 km on escooters and ebikes. Thats about 150l of oil that was not consumed by me. since I have owned a PHEV for the last 7 years and 52K km (about 5% gas) thats 4900 liters of gasoline I did not use. All the Uber rides I did not take due to my scooter.. damn it adds up BIG TIME.

By saying Heniz and PEI potatoes are an alternative you are showing either 1. What a fool you are, 2. what a liar you are or 3. what a shitty sense of humor you have. Take your pick. No wonder you love PP. You can't be taken seriously.
 
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