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nottyboi

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JohnLarue said:
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you know, these are the same type of pie in the sky, unrealistic bullshit argument's you made about
1. renewables
2. net zero
2 EVs

all three turned out to be pure bullshit

again, get this through your head
Justin and the liberal premiers have spent all the money and borrowed to the max

you can not have a sustainable social safety net without responsible financial management
the federal and provincial liberals choose to be financially irresponsible

Universal health care in Canada is unsustainable.



Actually the evidence for the unsustainability of Universal health care in Canada is there in front of your eyes yet you refuse to accept it.
i am realistic
you are a bullshit artist
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Haha you really look around your neighbourhood and think that is what is happening in the world? lol China is going all in on EVs and EVs there can charge at up to 600kw (as fast as gasoline cars) more then 50% of the 30m annual sales of cars are EVs. Green power is providing vast amounts of growth in capacity worldwide.
As for immigrants most do very well in Canada https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/en/catalogue/11F0019M2003197 You do realize all those immigrants working in hospitals are making pretty decent wages right? Isn't Doug Ford a conservative? 6.6B defict at provincial level. What about the Harper govt, they took us from surplus to defict!! So you bullshit about only Liberals causing deficits in nonsense.

At least most of Canada's deficits are spent on Canadians not bullshit wars like the USA. Yes there is a need to reign in spending for sure, and some of that can be done by reforming healthcarem which is a BIG spend.
 
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nottyboi said:
Haha you really look around your neighbourhood and think that is what is happening in the world? lol China is going all in on EVs and EVs there can charge at up to 600kw (as fast as gasoline cars) more then 50% of the 30m annual sales of cars are EVs. Green power is providing vast amounts of growth in capacity worldwide.
As for immigrants most do very well in Canada https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/en/catalogue/11F0019M2003197 You do realize all those immigrants working in hospitals are making pretty decent wages right? Isn't Doug Ford a conservative? 6.6B defict at provincial level. What about the Harper govt, they took us from surplus to defict!! So you bullshit about only Liberals causing deficits in nonsense.

At least most of Canada's deficits are spent on Canadians not bullshit wars like the USA. Yes there is a need to reign in spending for sure, and some of that can be done by reforming healthcarem which is a BIG spend.
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1. renewables
2. net zero
3 EVs

incredibly foolish plans driven by fool loonie left politicians who are all being replaced

the rest of your post is just another example of your bullshit , prompting the failed ideology of a narcistic, corrupt moron , who had to resign in disgrace
as much as you would like to, you can not polish a turd and make it shinny

again, get this through your head
Justin and the liberal premiers have foolishly and irresponsible spent all the money and borrowed to the max

you can not have a sustainable social safety net without responsible financial management
the federal and provincial liberals choose to be financially irresponsible

Universal health care in Canada is unsustainable.
your failed ideology has ensure this
 
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nottyboi said:
Yeah but I don't see how Ontario will ever vote NDP again after Bob Rae who I think is very unfairly judged. Not that I like the NEOCON he has turned into.
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You mean Bob Rae the Liberal?

Ontario will never vote NDP again...that's how bad they were.
And it will be a loooooong time before they vote Liberal seeing how badly the previous provincial Liberals (yes there used to be a Provincial Liberal party in Ontario) did for Ontario the last time they were in power.

The only way those parties can salvage their future is to drop the virtue signaling bullshit they have tried peddling as well as many of their Socialist (ie Communist) agendas.

The NDP should also stop sucking the Liberal party's balls and grow a spine for themselves.
 
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Butler1000 said:
You can become an elite by climbing the corporate ladder on the deaths of policy holders. He was under investigation for fraud of the Govt, customers, and shareholders.

Elite isn't just about who's child you are, it's about joining a club that purposely exploits people for money, and pays off politicians for favors.

He qualifies.
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The company was under investigation for anti-trust. Has nothing to do with your narrative that they denied coverage.
Pretty much every major company in the world has faced anti-trust investigations

Show where he paid off politicians for favours?

You make these statements without any proof.
 
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speakercontrols said:
He posted his source for 11,000 people dying while on a waitlist.
Mind you it was a news article so it would have been better to reference what the new article did. However, it's WAY more than most people here are capable of.
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What he posted wasn't anything new. These wait times were always an issue. Not defending Fatty Ford but Franky blames Ford for things that happened before he became the Premier.
 
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JohnLarue said:
1. renewables
2. net zero
3 EVs

incredibly foolish plans driven by fool loonie left politicians who are all being replaced

the rest of your post is just another example of your bullshit , prompting the failed ideology of a narcistic, corrupt moron , who had to resign in disgrace
as much as you would like to, you can not polish a turd and make it shinny

again, get this through your head
Justin and the liberal premiers have foolishly and irresponsible spent all the money and borrowed to the max

you can not have a sustainable social safety net without responsible financial management
the federal and provincial liberals choose to be financially irresponsible

Universal health care in Canada is unsustainable.
your failed ideology has ensure this
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Plug in car sales in Canada hit 12.9% and there are waiting lists of up to 18m on some models. So your premise that the product has been rejected is not a serious arguement. The USA does not have universal healthcare, they spend FAR MORE and have WORSE outcomes and its the model you embrace. YOU are the pathalogical idealogue. You are the one ignoring the data.Thousands die in the USA due to lack of healthcare and almost 400K are bankrupted by medical bills a year. Have you stopped to contemplate the cost and damage of that? You blame it on liberal premiers, yet we are 6 years into DOFO, Quebec is certainly not Liberal, more far right. In fact the only non conservative premiers are in BC, Yukon and NFL. Hardly signicant. Vast amounts of green power have been deployed successfully, with only the rate of manufacture being the limitation of deployment. Even AB is deploying wind power in significant quantities under a conservative govt in an oil and gas rich province. In fact AB (conservative, oil and gas rich) is Canadas LEADING PRODUCER OF WIND POWER. Now why is that?
If internal combustion is so wonderful, why is your fridge and dish washer not powered by a natural gas ICE? Why do cars need to be left running in extreme cold in case they don't start again. Sodium batteries will drop to $10 per KWh in 3-5 years, at that point ICE cars will be hopelessly non-competitive with EVs. Its hard to take you seriously, you just ignore data and trends and bleat out your usual PP type Conserative ideology of AXE THE FACTS. 🤷‍♂️🤣 That said I do think there is need for greater fiscal discipline but I do not see how that is affiliated with any party. In fact it was the Liberals that brought Canada back into the black after Mulroneys massive Conservative deficits followed by your Conservative Idol Harper taking us BACK INTO THE RED ZONE. Please don't AXE THE FACTS. !!!
 
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speakercontrols said:
I'd like to see the sources for your claims. No doubt since you're touting "facts and data", you're able to easily provide them?

For example, Albert has a lot of wind CAPACITY, with nothing really being actually generated. As of the time of this post, 92% of their power is from Nat. Gas. For provinces where data is available, they're still the dirtiest in Canada. BUT, they're still MUCH MUCH better than Germany, the Green Power poster child.

For wind capacity, AB is just over 5GWs, ON is just under. Hardly worth shouting about given ON's massive hydro and nuclear capacity, ON doesn't need wind power.

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Look where they are heading:

https://www.aeso.ca/future-of-electricity/albertas-power-system-in-transition

Please don't AXE THE FACTS!!!
 
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roddermac said:
What he posted wasn't anything new. These wait times were always an issue. Not defending Fatty Ford but Franky blames Ford for things that happened before he became the Premier.
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Has he improved it? No!! So if a bad situation exists, and after 6 years no solution, you still say its not his fault? WTF!!!
 
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Skoob said:
You mean Bob Rae the Liberal?

Ontario will never vote NDP again...that's how bad they were.
And it will be a loooooong time before they vote Liberal seeing how badly the previous provincial Liberals (yes there used to be a Provincial Liberal party in Ontario) did for Ontario the last time they were in power.

The only way those parties can salvage their future is to drop the virtue signaling bullshit they have tried peddling as well as many of their Socialist (ie Communist) agendas.

The NDP should also stop sucking the Liberal party's balls and grow a spine for themselves.
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Well that is my point. Ontario has no idea how good or bad they were because no one took the time to understand what was done in a very bad situation the NDP inherited. The other 2 parties are only too happy to perpetuate the NDP BAAAAAD mantra as it serves them. And people like you are not willing to make the effort to understand what was done and what policy options were available to the NDP.
 
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speakercontrols said:
I'd like to see the sources for your claims. No doubt since you're touting "facts and data", you're able to easily provide them?

For example, Albert has a lot of wind CAPACITY, with nothing really being actually generated. As of the time of this post, 92% of their power is from Nat. Gas. For provinces where data is available, they're still the dirtiest in Canada. BUT, they're still MUCH MUCH better than Germany, the Green Power poster child.

For wind capacity, AB is just over 5GWs, ON is just under. Hardly worth shouting about given ON's massive hydro and nuclear capacity, ON doesn't need wind power.

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Please don't AXE THE FACTS!!

https://economicdashboard.alberta.ca/dashboard/renewable-energy-generation

Government of Alberta

Alberta Economic Dashboard
economicdashboard.alberta.ca economicdashboard.alberta.ca
 
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Skoob said:
The company was under investigation for anti-trust. Has nothing to do with your narrative that they denied coverage.
Pretty much every major company in the world has faced anti-trust investigations

Show where he paid off politicians for favours?

You make these statements without any proof.
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Yes they ARE under investigation for illegally using AI to generate a second opinion instead of an actual doctor. To deny claims.

www.fox5ny.com

UnitedHealthcare accused of relying on AI algorithms to deny Medicare Advantage claims

UnitedHealthcare’s denial rates for skilled nursing centers 'experienced particularly dramatic growth.'
www.fox5ny.com www.fox5ny.com

Are you trying to say the healthcare industry doesn't use lobbyists?

Cripes are you really going to tell me you think these people are clean?

You keep on losing this. Just stop.
 
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nottyboi said:
Well that is my point. Ontario has no idea how good or bad they were because no one took the time to understand what was done in a very bad situation the NDP inherited. The other 2 parties are only too happy to perpetuate the NDP BAAAAAD mantra as it serves them. And people like you are not willing to make the effort to understand what was done and what policy options were available to the NDP.
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Rae was never really an NDPer...he was always more of a right-of-centre Liberal. Just check out his speeches from Davos.

Why is it that when the left "inherits" a situation it's a valid excuse, but when the right inherits a it's no excuse?
 
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