A warning from Bernie Sanders to America

JohnLarue

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He will fuel it with rubbing alcohol if gas is not avail...even though that is technically a renewable. . lol

fyi
you grand kids will still be using fossil fuels and laughing at you for thinking windmills and solar panel could have possible displaceed them


30 years and trillions of dollars wasted on renewables and fossil fuel went from 82% to 81% of the world energy consumption.

you were believing in a fairy tale

the question for the left is , why did you get so nasty and evil when questioned about your fairy tail ?
 
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Skoob

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Ya he was, you just don't want to admit it because then you have to admit the whole insurance thing is a scam. That universal healthcare is a better option.

Investigations will continue. But I have no doubt he did it.
In other words, in the absence of real proof, you'll just go with your confirmation bias as your moral compass.
Got it.
 

JohnLarue

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Tell us what happened around 2007-2008 (about a year or so into his first term) when Harper was PM that took about 4-5 years to recover from?
PM Harper borrowed when he needed to, developed a plan to get back to budget and executed that plan. He acted responsibly with tax payers money
Trudeau borrowed all the time, without restraint , never had a plan to get back to budget and executed the government finances. He acted irresponsibly and like a damn fool with tax payers money.

Trudeau will go down in history as Canada's curse.
if there was any justice, all of his Trust Fund should be transferred to the government and put towards govt debt repayment
 
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JohnLarue

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In other words, in the absence of real proof, you'll just go with your confirmation bias as your moral compass.
Got it.
Jesus, he was not sure but still cheered on the murderer of an innocent man, because '' the whole insurance thing is a scam ''

despicable
that makes my skin crawl
 

Skoob

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Jesus, he was not sure but still cheered on the murderer of an innocent man, because '' the whole insurance thing is a scam ''

despicable
that makes my skin crawl
Yup...with a few replies and pointed questions it doesn't take much to expose a loon.
 

roddermac

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PM Harper borrowed when he needed to, developed a plan to get back to budget and executed that plan. He acted responsibly with tax payers money
Trudeau borrowed all the time, without restraint , never had a plan to get back to budget and executed the government finances. He acted irresponsibly and like a damn fool with tax payers money.

Trudeau will go down in history as Canada's curse.
if there was any justice, all of his Trust Fund should be transferred to the government and put towards govt debt repayment
We need a law that makes these asshole politicians payback the money they waste.
 

Frankfooter

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no i do not think Trudeau came up with the green agenda
he is far too stupid

it was pretty obvious when the loonie left latched onto it, with balls to the wall, do not ask any questions, hold nothing back, brow beat anyone who questions it enthusiasm
as it so nicely dovetailed in their evil increase in govt control, re-distribute wealth agenda

the green agenda was a ridiculous unachievable pipedream that would have killed hundreds of millions and pushed billions into adject poverty
this stupidity has cost Canada dearly and we will be fortunate if we recover from this insanity as a whole nation

time for you wake up
you green agenda is dying and will be buried
a case study highlighting the gullibility / stupidity of the mases and how a well co-ordinate propaganda effort almost destroyed western civilization

history will not be kind to those who pushed this nonsense
i find you rather repulsive for still pretending the Trudeau agenda had any real merit
You once declared on this board that if the science was right after all then the oil$gas industry would be committing the greatest crime against humanity.

 

JohnLarue

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He will fuel it with rubbing alcohol if gas is not avail...even though that is technically a renewable. . lol
rubbing alcohol is primarily Isopropyl alcohol (IUPAC name propan-2-ol and also called isopropanol or 2-propanol) is a colorless, flammable, organic compound with a pungent alcoholic odor.[9]

Isopropyl alcohol is primarily produced by combining water and propene in a hydration reaction or by hydrogenating acetone
Propylene, is also known as propene,
Acetone is produced directly or indirectly from propene.
The dominant technology for producing propylene is steam cracking, using propane as the feedstock.
Propane (/ˈproʊpeɪn/) is a three-carbon alkane with the molecular formula C3H8. It is a gas at standard temperature and pressure, but compressible to a transportable liquid. A by-product of natural gas processing and petroleum refining,

derived from fossil fuels
you are so ignorant of what you speak

of course you will make some half assed claim about an alternative renewable synthesis of Isopropyl alcohol
however a switch over will be far more expensive and still require energy

you are so ignorant of what you speak
 
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Skoob

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Lol! The volume of investigations speaks for itself. The lack of caring BY HIS OWN COMPANY says it all.
In other words, zero proof.

Caring by his own company? I don't even know what that means and how that is any kind of proof about anything.
 

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In other words, zero proof.

Caring by his own company? I don't even know what that means and how that is any kind of proof about anything.
Dude, he was shot outside a shareholders meeting. They stepped around his body, It carried on, that day they advertised to replace him, and he was within days.

Nobody other than his family gives a shit. MAGA people laughed and applauded.

It's going to be fun to watch the MAGA mob turn on people. They are their own thing now. It's very difficult to keep ahead of the mob. Once they smell blood they won't stop.

The rich are the "Elites" the swamp are the Elites. Immigrants will only get the blame for a short time.
 

Skoob

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Dude, he was shot outside a shareholders meeting. They stepped around his body, It carried on, that day they advertised to replace him, and he was within days.

Nobody other than his family gives a shit. MAGA people laughed and applauded.

It's going to be fun to watch the MAGA mob turn on people. They are their own thing now. It's very difficult to keep ahead of the mob. Once they smell blood they won't stop.

The rich are the "Elites" the swamp are the Elites. Immigrants will only get the blame for a short time.
Dude, get your head out of the rabbit hole...it's no wonder you think what you do when all your facts are either missing or wrong.


UnitedHealth Group (UNH) abruptly canceled its Investor Day presentation shortly after it began this morning following media reports that the CEO of its insurance unit had been fatally shot.
Brian Thompson, who had led UNH's insurance segment since 2021, was shot in midtown Manhattan around 6:45 am Eastern Time on Wednesday morning, according to CNBC. He was transported to a local hospital in critical condition but was pronounced dead shortly thereafter.
UNH's Investor Day presentation had begun at 8:00 am Eastern Time in New York City, but quickly came to a close.
https://www.kiplinger.com/investing...or-day-after-executive-brian-thompson-is-shot


You think companies don't have contingencies in place should their CEO not be available or dies? Why would you think they wouldn't replace him immediately considering the responsibility of the position?
 

Butler1000

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Dude, get your head out of the rabbit hole...it's no wonder you think what you do when all your facts are either missing or wrong.


UnitedHealth Group (UNH) abruptly canceled its Investor Day presentation shortly after it began this morning following media reports that the CEO of its insurance unit had been fatally shot.
Brian Thompson, who had led UNH's insurance segment since 2021, was shot in midtown Manhattan around 6:45 am Eastern Time on Wednesday morning, according to CNBC. He was transported to a local hospital in critical condition but was pronounced dead shortly thereafter.
UNH's Investor Day presentation had begun at 8:00 am Eastern Time in New York City, but quickly came to a close.
https://www.kiplinger.com/investing...or-day-after-executive-brian-thompson-is-shot


You think companies don't have contingencies in place should their CEO not be available or dies? Why would you think they wouldn't replace him immediately considering the responsibility of the position?
Right, so they started it, announced later there was a "medical condition ", apparently still reported a bullish outlook.

Like I said, they didn't really give a shit. Yes they have contingency plans. Because the Corporations are more important than the people.

I have no Idea why you are defending these parasites. Its amazing. They would look you straight in the eye and tell you your children will have to die, for shareholders to make more money. And you think this is a good thing.
 

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Please don't AXE THE FACTS!!
The power really isn't in question - let's look at your paragraph. There are a number of claims that can easily be verified and others not so much.

  • Plug in car sales in Canada hit 12.9% and there are waiting lists of up to 18m on some models.
  • Sodium batteries will drop to $10 per KWh in 3-5 years,
  • at point ICE cars will be hopelessly non-competitive with EVs.
  • followed by your Conservative Idol Harper taking us BACK INTO THE RED ZONE
 

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Well that is my point. Ontario has no idea how good or bad they were because no one took the time to understand what was done in a very bad situation the NDP inherited. The other 2 parties are only too happy to perpetuate the NDP BAAAAAD mantra as it serves them. And people like you are not willing to make the effort to understand what was done and what policy options were available to the NDP.
Actually my take on this is that the brief reign of Bob Rae only highlighted the NDP's destructive in-fighting and their total in-ability to govern due to the navel gazing narcissism. The so-called "Rae Days" & his "Social Contract" were very benign (and not a bad solution) in comparison to what & who followed after Rae.

Funny enough, IIRC, we're even in WAY WAY worse financial shape :ROFLMAO:

If elected, the NDP would just completely fuck everything up again by themselves and we'd naturally pick the action/reaction candidate again.

nb: I original thought the despotic regime of Rae was only a few years. TDIL that it was the full term.
 

Skoob

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Right, so they started it, announced later there was a "medical condition ", apparently still reported a bullish outlook.

Like I said, they didn't really give a shit. Yes they have contingency plans. Because the Corporations are more important than the people.

I have no Idea why you are defending these parasites. Its amazing. They would look you straight in the eye and tell you your children will have to die, for shareholders to make more money. And you think this is a good thing.
You said they ignored the killing and continued with the conference and I showed you they stopped it as soon as the news came in...so you were wrong there and shared misinformation.
You said that they replaced him immediately trying to insinuate that no one liked him and I told you replacing high ranking people immediately is normal and based on contingency...so your narrative on that was wrong as well.

Corporations exist to make money for shareholders. They don't exist to spread good will for free. You may not like that cold hard truth, but it's the truth that you should accept it to set your moral expectations.

Just because I've disproven every argument that you've tried to make doesn't mean you have to create some fictitious situation whereby you make assumptions as to what I think.

What's amazing here is how you base your moral standing on cognitive bias and remaining ill-informed.
 

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Actually my take on this is that the brief reign of Bob Rae only highlighted the NDP's destructive in-fighting and their total in-ability to govern due to the navel gazing narcissism. The so-called "Rae Days" & his "Social Contract" were very benign (and not a bad solution) in comparison to what & who followed after Rae.

Funny enough, IIRC, we're even in WAY WAY worse financial shape :ROFLMAO:

If elected, the NDP would just completely fuck everything up again by themselves and we'd naturally pick the action/reaction candidate again.

nb: I original thought the despotic regime of Rae was only a few years. TDIL that it was the full term.
What would the NDP do that Ford hasn't already screwed up?
Stiles has some good idea, she'd pay for all trucks to take the 407 while DoFo is campaigning on buying the 407 (for way too much money) and building a tunnel under the 401.

The amount of people put out of work by DoFo is higher than under Rae and DoFo added way more to the debt.
 

Butler1000

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You said they ignored the killing and continued with the conference and I showed you they stopped it as soon as the news came in...so you were wrong there and shared misinformation.
You said that they replaced him immediately trying to insinuate that no one liked him and I told you replacing high ranking people immediately is normal and based on contingency...so your narrative on that was wrong as well.

Corporations exist to make money for shareholders. They don't exist to spread good will for free. You may not like that cold hard truth, but it's the truth that you should accept it to set your moral expectations.

Just because I've disproven every argument that you've tried to make doesn't mean you have to create some fictitious situation whereby you make assumptions as to what I think.

What's amazing here is how you base your moral standing on cognitive bias and remaining ill-informed.
I base my moral standing on not letting people die because a corporation wants to make their money and not give them Healthcare.

Yours is apparently based on share value.
 

Skoob

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I base my moral standing on not letting people die because a corporation wants to make their money and not give them Healthcare.

Yours is apparently based on share value.
Nope.

When it comes to insurance, it's about the details of the policy and the agreement to that policy.

You have yet to prove that the majority of claim denials were in breach of customers' policies.

You have allegations and emotions wrapped in cognitive bias and explained via motherhood statements within a reality that doesn't exist.
 

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The power really isn't in question - let's look at your paragraph. There are a number of claims that can easily be verified and others not so much.

  • Plug in car sales in Canada hit 12.9% and there are waiting lists of up to 18m on some models.
  • Sodium batteries will drop to $10 per KWh in 3-5 years,
  • at point ICE cars will be hopelessly non-competitive with EVs.
  • followed by your Conservative Idol Harper taking us BACK INTO THE RED ZONE
The only one that cannot be verfied is that Sodium batteries will drop to $10 per KWH as that is future pricing. The fact is, even at current prices EVs will fall to the price of ICE cars. That EVs with $10/KWH batteries will undercut ICE cars is a fact to anyone that knows the ins and outs of cars. As for Harper, the fiscal history of his govt is a historical fact. 👍
 
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