A warning from Bernie Sanders to America

[Frankfooter]

And according to him. Well more informed. Just look at his sources. All coming from the platform owned by the richest man he despises most.

What sources are legit these days?
Most american MSM are owned by a handful of right wing billionaires.
In the US you have propublica and PBS, in Canada you have CBC.
The rest of our media is owned by 2 or 3 right wing billionaires.

Even Musk, Zuckerberg and China can't stop everything on their platforms.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1877752965638885673

 

[JohnLarue]

Because it needs to REFORMED geez why are you so cognatively impaired. Thats like saying ":well I am gonna die someday, so I may as well put a bullet in my head right now!!! " Good governence is not easy. So do we just throw in the towel and let chaos take over?

you talk of good governance, but you have no idea what that really is

you can not reform demographics, increased utilization rates or above average medical equipment/ supply inflation
nor can you reform the cost of debt on issued govt debt

your claim of reform is just to thrown more govt money at health care
News flash for you
Justin and the liberal premiers have spent all the money and borrowed to the max

you can not have a sustainable social safety net without responsible financial management
the federal and provincial liberals choose to be financially irresponsible

Universal health care in Canada is unsustainable.

 

[nottyboi]

you talk of good governance, but you have no idea what that really is

you can not reform demographics, increased utilization rates or above average medical equipment/ supply inflation
nor can you reform the cost of debt on issued govt debt

your claim of reform is just to thrown more govt money at health care
News flash for you
Justin and the liberal premiers have spent all the money and borrowed to the max

you can not have a sustainable social safety net without responsible financial management
the federal and provincial liberals choose to be financially irresponsible

Universal health care in Canada is unsustainable.

Demographics are being reformed by immgration. Delivery can be changed, processes changed, more automation, more specialization, new classes of medical personell to deliver service etc etc. I don't understand why people like you cannot look at the evidence. For example the USA spends FAR more then us and delivers worse outcomes. There are others that spend less and deliver better outcomes. Ontario spends less then AB and delivers similar outcomes. With all this evidence how do you arrive at "nothing can be made more efficient, it must be cut" FARK ME!!

 

[Frankfooter]

Demographics are being reformed by immgration. Delivery can be changed, processes changed, more automation, more specialization, new classes of medical personell to deliver service etc etc. I don't understand why people like you cannot look at the evidence. For example the USA spends FAR more then us and delivers worse outcomes. There are others that spend less and deliver better outcomes. Ontario spends less then AB and delivers similar outcomes. With all this evidence how do you arrive at "nothing can be made more efficient, it must be cut" FARK ME!!

Its like they read that the US is great if you're rich so think that's what's going to help some pensioner like larue.
Meanwhile someone like larue will complain that you can't get a family doctor so we shouldn't fund public health at all, instead of looking at the systematic changes that have made family doctors leave the practice in Ontario for the last decade.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1877817801609453760

 

[nottyboi]

Its like they read that the US is great if you're rich so think that's what's going to help some pensioner like larue.
Meanwhile someone like larue will complain that you can't get a family doctor so we shouldn't fund public health at all, instead of looking at the systematic changes that have made family doctors leave the practice in Ontario for the last decade.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1877817801609453760

I am voting Crombie in the next election. Not crazy about that choice, but 2 terms is enough for this province to be run by a drug dealer.

 

[Frankfooter]

I am voting Crombie in the next election. Not crazy about that choice, but 2 terms is enough for this province to be run by a drug dealer.

Crombie is pretty useless, Marit Stiles would be far better.
But it has to change.

DoFo is fining people $10,000 for being homeless.
That's his fix.

 

[nottyboi]

Crombie is pretty useless, Marit Stiles would be far better.

Yeah but I don't see how Ontario will ever vote NDP again after Bob Rae who I think is very unfairly judged. Not that I like the NEOCON he has turned into.

 

[Frankfooter]

Yeah but I don't see how Ontario will ever vote NDP again after Bob Rae who I think is very unfairly judged. Not that I like the NEOCON he has turned into.

Perhaps, but then there has been such an anti liberal attack from the media in Canada that people may shift.

 

[roddermac]

What sources are legit these days?
Most american MSM are owned by a handful of right wing billionaires.
In the US you have propublica and PBS, in Canada you have CBC.
The rest of our media is owned by 2 or 3 right wing billionaires.

Even Musk, Zuckerberg and China can't stop everything on their platforms.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1877752965638885673

MSN is pure left wing anti Trump propaganda. Zuckerberg admitted that the Democrat party had him censor news that spoke out against left wing ideology

 

[Skoob]

You tell us. MAGA defines it. But the contradictions abound. These CEO's happily defraud and pay politicians. They are swamp enablers.

If you want to drain it, they have to go. So do you still want to defend them. That is who guys like Mirch McConnell and his type love. And The Pelosi types of the world.

I'm not the one who used the term...you did...which is why I was asking about the definition.

 

[shack]

And according to him. Well more informed. Just look at his sources. All coming from the platform owned by the richest man he despises most.

He keeps looking for arguments again, and making accusations.

 

[shack]

UnitedHealthcare lawsuit: Physicians allege delay, deny, underpay practices

UnitedHealthcare is accused of owing more than $900,000 in independent dispute resolution awards after using a federal law to deny, delay and underpay out-of-network providers.

www.fox9.com

https://www.newsnationnow.com/health/unitedhealth-units-pay-165m-misleading-consumers/

UnitedHealthcare CEO accused of insider trading and fraud, lawsuit shows

The UnitedHealthcare CEO who was shot and killed in New York on Dec. 4 was named in a lawsuit earlier this year, according to a lawsuit.

nbcmontana.com

DOJ launched probe into UnitedHealth for insider trading and attempted to stop monopoly

Multiple executives at UnitedHealthcare were under investigation by the Department of Justice for insider trading and fraud when CEO Brian Thompson was shot and killed Wednesday.

www.foxbusiness.com

UnitedHealth faces class action lawsuit over algorithmic care denials in Medicare Advantage plans

A class action lawsuit was filed against UnitedHealth and a subsidiary alleging they use an algorithm to deny care to seriously ill patients

www.statnews.com

Here is a sampling. He was killed before the justice system got him.

So now what will you do.....defend him? Really? He ripped off customers, investors and the government.

Shareholders, dude. You keep forgetting about shareholders. Tell him, Skoob, he's forgetting about shareholders.

 

[JohnLarue]

[Demographics are being reformed by immgration.

Oh Boy
After the liberals brought in millions of new people requiring health care ?

Delivery can be changed, processes changed, more automation, more specialization, new classes of medical personell to deliver service etc etc. I don't understand why people like you cannot look at the evidence.

How stupid are you?

In 2024, Canada is projected to spend $372 billion on healthcare, which is expected to be 12.4% of the country's gross domestic product (GDP).

just how much were planning on saving via you your planned Reforms ?

millions perhaps , when 100 billion is required

as usual you do not have a clue what you are taking about

your claim of reform will be to thrown more govt money at health care
News flash for you
Justin and the liberal premiers have spent all the money and borrowed to the max

you can not have a sustainable social safety net without responsible financial management
the federal and provincial liberals choose to be financially irresponsible

Universal health care in Canada is unsustainable.

 

[Butler1000]

Shareholders, dude. You keep forgetting about shareholders. Tell him, Skoob, he's forgetting about shareholders.

He defrauded them too due to over valuations.

 

[Butler1000]

I'm not the one who used the term...you did...which is why I was asking about the definition.

I think that CEO defines it nicely. He is well within the definition.

 

[nottyboi]

Oh Boy
After the liberals brought in millions of new people requiring health care ?



How stupid are you?


just how much were planning on saving via you your planned Reforms ?

millions perhaps , when 100 billion is required

as usual you do not have a clue what you are taking about

your claim of reform will be to thrown more govt money at health care
News flash for you
Justin and the liberal premiers have spent all the money and borrowed to the max

you can not have a sustainable social safety net without responsible financial management
the federal and provincial liberals choose to be financially irresponsible

Universal health care in Canada is unsustainable.

When is the last time you went near a hospital. Notice how many immigrants are DELIVERING healthcare? Yes the immigrants need helalth care, but they make our population younger and so the percaptia level remains on a slight upward trajectory. How much can reforms save? I would say its almost unlimted. Just using AI to analyze MRIs alone can reduce the imaging costs by about 80%. Offer online and call in AI Drs if people prefer faster service for minor issues. You can start with areas that are desperate for Drs and grow it from there. Much greater use of robotics in the future in hospitals. The savings potential is unlimited but the key is to ensure we contain spending $ per person. If you look at some of the pragmatic changes, MAID for example has saved hundereds of millions. I have shown you examples of higher and lower cost models that have delivered worse better and the similar levels of care. The evidence is there in front of your eyes yet you refuse to accept it.

 

[Skoob]

I think that CEO defines it nicely. He is well within the definition.

A university graduate who started with the company when he was 30 years old and worked his way up over his 20 year tenure to become CEO?

That's an "Elite" to you?

We used to call people like that hard workers who invested in themselves and had the brains and ambition to have a successful career.

 

[JohnLarue]

When is the last time you went near a hospital.

Not that it is any of you business, however I went to visit someone in the hospital last week

Notice how many immigrants are DELIVERING healthcare?

It does not matter who delivers the health care immigrant or otherwise. the cost is still the same

Yes the immigrants need helalth care, but they make our population younger and so the percaptia level remains on a slight upward trajectory.

Oh boy
immigrants get sick and have babies and get into horrific car accidents just as the rest of the population
many are working at / below a subsistence level and thus will not generate the tax dollars required to cover their health costs, let alone all the other govt related costs

How much can reforms save? I would say its almost unlimted.

well you do not have a clue what you are talking about
health are requires trained doctors and nurses, drugs and equipment and that costs money

Just using AI to analyze MRIs alone can reduce the imaging costs by about 80%.

ridiculous
Are you willing to have surgery based on an AI recommendation
remove your right nut because a computer detected a dark spot in the MRI
opps , it got left and right mixed up, now the other one has to go

me, I want a doctor to tell me what is wrong

Offer online and call in AI Drs if people prefer faster service for minor issues. You can start with areas that are desperate for Drs and grow it from there. Much greater use of robotics in the future in hospitals. The savings potential is unlimited but the key is to ensure we contain spending $ per person.

you are dreaming, and your dream will require billions more to be invested in med/ tech
money that should have been invested instead of invested in "fighting climate"

again, get this through your very thick head

Justin and the liberal premiers have spent all the money and borrowed to the max

you can not have a sustainable social safety net without responsible financial management
the federal and provincial liberals choose to be financially irresponsible

Universal health care in Canada is unsustainable.

If you look at some of the pragmatic changes, MAID for example has saved hundereds of millions.

if your health care plan is to reduce the population burden by encouraging suicide you are bent

I have shown you examples of higher and lower cost models that have delivered worse better and the similar levels of care. The evidence is there in front of your eyes yet you refuse to accept it.

How stupid are you?

In 2024, Canada is projected to spend $372 billion on healthcare, which is expected to be 12.4% of the country's gross domestic product (GDP).

just how much were planning on saving via you your planned Reforms ?

millions perhaps , when 100 billion is required

you can not have a sustainable social safety net without responsible financial management
the federal and provincial liberals choose to be financially irresponsible

Universal health care in Canada is unsustainable.

 

[Frankfooter]

MSM is pure left wing anti Trump propaganda. Zuckerberg admitted that the Democrat party had him censor news that spoke out against left wing ideology

Wow, you have to pretty far right to think the MSM is left wing these days.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1877783433637924927

 

[JohnLarue]

When is the last time you went near a hospital. Notice how many immigrants are DELIVERING healthcare? Yes the immigrants need helalth care, but they make our population younger and so the percaptia level remains on a slight upward trajectory. How much can reforms save? I would say its almost unlimted. Just using AI to analyze MRIs alone can reduce the imaging costs by about 80%. Offer online and call in AI Drs if people prefer faster service for minor issues. You can start with areas that are desperate for Drs and grow it from there. Much greater use of robotics in the future in hospitals. The savings potential is unlimited but the key is to ensure we contain spending $ per person. If you look at some of the pragmatic changes, MAID for example has saved hundereds of millions. I have shown you examples of higher and lower cost models that have delivered worse better and the similar levels of care

.

you know, these are the same type of pie in the sky, unrealistic bullshit argument's you made about
1. renewables
2. net zero
2 EVs

all three turned out to be pure bullshit

again, get this through your head
Justin and the liberal premiers have spent all the money and borrowed to the max

you can not have a sustainable social safety net without responsible financial management
the federal and provincial liberals choose to be financially irresponsible

Universal health care in Canada is unsustainable.

The evidence is there in front of your eyes yet you refuse to accept it.

Actually the evidence for the unsustainability of Universal health care in Canada is there in front of your eyes yet you refuse to accept it.
i am realistic
you are a bullshit artist