A warning from Bernie Sanders to America

[DesRicardo]

i would rather than wait 2 years

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the conversation goes where it goes



Now you're just trolling.


laying out the facts for you is far from confused
you are the one who wants the unachievable utopian dream

of course a business needs to be profitable to meet customer demand and pay employees

This is a lie. You will wait 2 years rather than pay out your pocket and travel to the states.

The conversation stay on topic.

Waking up, going to work and being paid fairly is a Utopian dream to you, But someone wanting to hoard BILLIONS of dollars by any means you are ok with that? True colours are showing John. True colours are showing.

 

[shack]

if he broke the law , let law enforcement deal with him
it was a cold blooded murder of an innocent man

Yet he became a cult hero to tens of millions.

That speaks volumes to how much Americans hate their privatized system. Socialized medicine works in every other 1st world country. Why can't it work for the US?

They are the only country without it, they pay the most per capita yet rank around 40th in life expectancy. Does that make sense to you? If Americans are paying the most, shouldn't they have better results? 40 countries with socialized health care have their citizens live longer than in the US.

 

[shack]

I am acting like I want smaller / competent / rational government

Didn't you mention something about a utopian dream?

 

[JohnLarue]

Speculation.

For now it's 70 years and running.

there is nothing speculative about unsustainable debt burdens

 

[JohnLarue]

Yet he became a cult hero to tens of millions.

tens of millions of sick, deprave hate filled morons

That speaks volumes to how much Americans hate their privatized system. Socialized medicine works in every other 1st world country. Why can't it work for the US?

it is unsustainable in Canada
Why would it work in the US ?

if you want to see hatred in the US try placing the tax burden Canadian suffer on Americans
That would become violent for sure

 

[roddermac]

Because Elon if fucking up in politics. Have you ever heard Gates or Soros say publicly a leader of a nation was a prick because he was not right minded?

No Bill Gates is too busy promoting cow farts as a planet killer.

 

[Skoob]

All you have to do is look at a country's debt to GDP ratio. It'll tell how bad government spending is.

Governments should spend wisely for the benefit of the people. Unfortunately they don't.
Many people overlook that and would rather blame some wealthy successful person for their financial misery.

 

[Frankfooter]

it is unsustainable in Canada
Why would it work in the US ?

if you want to see hatred in the US try placing the tax burden Canadian suffer on Americans
That would become violent for sure

Why is it unsustainable in Canada when its sustainable all through the EU and private health care is more expensive and gives americans a lower life span?

 

[JohnLarue]

This is a lie. You will wait 2 years rather than pay out your pocket and travel to the states.

do not assume you know me
no i would not suffer for 2 years and would pay out my pocket and travel to a different province to have a procedure completed by a private clinic.
More and more Canadians are doing exactly this as the public health care system is failing them.
I know of several people who have had to do this for bad hips / knees
i hope you or anyone close to you does not have to experience this directly

The conversation stay on topic.

what is with the control issues of the loonie left
The conversation goes where it goes and you do not get to control that

Waking up, going to work and being paid fairly is a Utopian dream to you,

there is nothing utopian about that
if you do not feel you are being paid fairly, go find another job and / or obtain the skill set required for higher compensation

But someone wanting to hoard BILLIONS of dollars by any means you are ok with that?

This was a cold blooded murder and you are OK with That ?

no laws were broken by the murder victim
if the HMO was not delivering value to clients, they will switch to the competition
allowing the market to punish bad actors is civilized
vigilante justice is barbaric and will lead to chaos

True colours are showing John. True colours are showing.

yeah justifying a cold blooded murder puts your true colors on display and it is a very ugly picture

 

[DesRicardo]

do not assume you know me
no i would not suffer for 2 years and would pay out my pocket and travel to a different province to have a procedure completed by a private clinic.
More and more Canadians are doing exactly this as the public health care system is failing them.
I know of several people who have had to do this for bad hips / knees
i hope you or anyone close to you does not have to experience this directly


what is with the control issues of the loonie left
The conversation goes where it goes and you do not get to control that



there is nothing utopian about that
if you do not feel you are being paid fairly, go find another job and / or obtain the skill set required for higher compensation



This was a cold blooded murder and you are OK with That ?

no laws were broken by the murder victim
if the HMO was not delivering value to clients, they will switch to the competition
allowing the market to punish bad actors is civilized
vigilante justice is barbaric and will lead to chaos


yeah justifying a cold blooded murder puts your true colors on display and it is a very ugly picture

How is it a Utopia for the average person to want to go to work and make a decent salary, but when a BILLIONAIRE wants to hoard money and control the country it's not?

 

[Frankfooter]

no i would not suffer for 2 years and would pay out my pocket and travel to a different province to have a procedure completed by a private clinic.

This is an admission that you know Doug Ford is destroying Ontario health care.

 

[jalimon]

No Bill Gates is too busy promoting cow farts as a planet killer.

Yes. He is also the biggest farmland owner of the US. As the authority do not project these lands...

Yet he never openly threatened any politician.

 

[nottyboi]

there is nothing speculative about unsustainable debt burdens

Sure there is, the very definition of unsustainable is speculative.

 

[Butler1000]

i never supported anyone in this grotesque story
why do you insist on justifying a cold blooded murder ?

vigilantly justice is chaos

you have a lot of nerve accusing me of being a Karen when your vile hatred justifies a murder
What is wrong with you ?

Why do you insist on supporting a health care system designed to deny care for profit? That's systemic cold blooded murder.

Btw, nice faux pas. "VIGILANTLY" justice with the second "L"(don't you have enough if those already!?!) gives it a whole other meaning.

 

[JohnLarue]

Why do you insist on supporting a health care system designed to deny care for profit? That's systemic cold blooded murder.

WTF ?

health care requires other people to provide the care
they can not provide the care for nothing

there are two choices public which is unsustainable or private

I do not support one system over the other,.
I am just pointing out universal health care is unsustainable in Canada and thus should not be forced onto Americans

that is quite different than justifying the cold blooded murder of an innocent man , even if you think he was a scumbag
what is wrong with you ?

 

[JohnLarue]

Sure there is, the very definition of unsustainable is speculative.

look
the writing is on the wall & the numbers do not le
the liberals/ NDP Federal & Provincial have destroyed government finance
Health Care utilization will increase with an aging population, Health acre inflation is double the CPI and more and more tax dollars will need to be diverted to interest payments

it is a done deal
universal health care in Canada is unsustainable

 

[Butler1000]

WTF ?

health care requires other people to provide the care
they can not provide the care for nothing

there are two choices public which is unsustainable or private

I do not support one system over the other,.
I am just pointing out universal health care is unsustainable in Canada and thus should not be forced onto Americans

that is quite different than justifying the cold blooded murder of an innocent man , even if you think he was a scumbag
what is wrong with you ?

It does not have to be at a profit for a middleman. Explain how giving money to an insurance company, operating between patient and provider, results in lower costs, other than denying coverage.

 

[jalimon]

It does not have to be at a profit for a middleman. Explain how giving money to an insurance company, operating between patient and provider, results in lower costs, other than denying coverage.

But it sure pays a nice yacht to insurer's CEO...

 

[JohnLarue]

How is it a Utopia for the average person to want to go to work and make a decent salary, but when a BILLIONAIRE wants to hoard money and control the country it's not?

nobody is claiming any person can not go to work and make a decent salary , they just need to apply the required skill set and be productive
if you cant do that you need to get different skills
the days of punching a clock and putting in unproductive time are over

Trudeau was a multi-millionaire, and completely unqualified for the Job, but you allowed him to hoard his money (one of the first things he did was protect his trust Fund) and control the country

i would have preferred Trump not run again but the loonie left ran a moron candidate leaving the us electorate little choice

 

[shack]

there is nothing speculative about unsustainable debt burdens

Has the system collapsed under the debt burden? No.

You are making a prediction. Even if you have good evidence, it is still speculation. Until it collapses, it is speculation.