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A warning from Bernie Sanders to America

bazokajoe

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Yes they did prove me wrong. According to a UBS study, 53 of the 137 new billionaires inherited their wealth, which was more than the $140.7 billion earned by the 84 new self-made billionaires in the same time period. Personally I think you should be able to pass on 100m, the rest should be taken into custody by govt and privatized and sold off
Maybe the government should take all your assets. Oh I forgot your boy Justin is already trying to do that.
 

Insidious Von

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Conrad Black set the tone for what may happen in the late 90's. He said the rights of billionaires must be protected above all other considerations. PM Chretien told him to go fuck himself and Black left Canada in a snit.

Now it looks like Elon Musk has achieved the goal where Black failed. Will Donald Trump remake America in Russia's image?

 

JohnLarue

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You're just completely wrong.
not at all
i am quite correct

If the taxes are reinvested back into society properly, it can greatly impact people in wealth and beyond.
Exactly when has that ever happened ?
we have had income taxes since introduced as a temporary measure during WW1, so the experiment has been run for over a century

Trudeau has increased the overall tax burden on Canadians and the net result is a massive govt debt, record visits to food banks, a housing crisis , a cost of living crisis and the wealth transfer appear to be to liberal insiders STDC

but you will get it right the next time ?


America doesn't have a public health care system. That right their is strictly a wealth issue.
not sure what your message is here


Tax revenue is controlled by government? Who's going into government? That's right the billionaire.
the left should not have promoted an airhead as a candidate

That's not even taking into fact the lobbying power they have.
the left is just guilty of playing the lobby for campaign contributions/ personal wealth
can you say hunter Biden ?

yes lobbying is shameful ,
democracy does beats the dictatorships that socialist ideals degenerate into

And no, most laid of tech workers are not millionaires.
the headline of the article you posted was about tesla executives

You asked how this affects society and I've showed you.
you have shown nothing other than unachievable loonie left ideals


You're out of your mind John. The whole purpose of laying people off is to incentivize shareholder's returns.
no, it is to drive efficiency in the operations to ensue the long term viability of the organization
an organization must be profitable / sustainable / competitive in order to
1.meet its customers demand
2 pay its employees

WTF you are very confused about why individuals start / run a business
it is to meet a market demand . - which greatly benefits society
nobody is incentivized to cut the American working class out the process and the wealth
that is just loonie left clap trap

Now you are just stating half-sentence opinions.
that is just loonie left speak for not wanting to deal with reality

the individual pursuit of wealth produces a better out come than expecting reliance on the nanny state
you will soon see how 10 years of left policies plays out and it is going to be ugly
 
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JohnLarue

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The fact you had to re-reply me makes me know you're down bad.
really, it could the fact you are not cluing in

If can't steal what you agree to give.
billionaires have not agreed to give their wealth away via taxation

But to not give your fair share is corrupt.
the left always talk about the fair share, but refuse to say exactly what is the fair share
the reality is tax the rich until they are rich no more
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JohnLarue

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Of course not all events. But the idea is to mitigate the losses. Universal healthcare does a better job of that. It's been proved by the majority of countries that have some form of socialized health care.

As paid for by the income taxes Canadians pay. We are taking the risk. Canadians are subsidizing themselves and seem to gladly accept it. It's our money that's funding it yet we haven't revolted over this in about 70 years (Tommy Douglas), because we've seen that our system is better.
you are fooling your self if you think Universal Health Care is sustainable in Canada
Trudeau and a a bunch of irresponsible liberal/ NDP provincial leaders have all but ensured Universal Health Care in Canada has become unsustainable
there is just too much govt debt and now there are too many unproductive people in the country
 

The Oracle

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The US would have been much better if Sanders had been in power years ago.

Ok ok there would probably have been fewer billionaires but we could live with that.
After his own party sunk him he endorsed Joe Biden...In the end he was as much of a shill as the rest of them
 

JohnLarue

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Concentration of wealth to a degree is necessary I am in the green its not the green that is the problem, its not the top 1% its the top 0.001% At $100 a day you are not picking govts, starting wars and bribing politicians.

you are not qualified to decide any cut off level or make any claim on other peoples wealth


the top 0.001% are immeasurable on this scale and the wealth redistribution the left screams about is to the green
they want to tax the rich out of spite, but still want their slice of the theft

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finally if the income of all the non green people rises to about $4000 us / year people start focusing on their surroundings / environment as life becomes less of a day to day ordeal of survival
 

JohnLarue

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And he was a member of a rich, well connected family.

CEO deserved it btw. He was as bad as it gets.
declaring a CEO deserve to be murder is disgusting and unbelievably petty
what a horrible thing to say

the loonies paint the victim as deserving to be murdered.
tomorrow you will support bail reform to get violent criminals back on the streets sooner

that is so messed up
 

Butler1000

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and you guess wrong

a rich and productive nation can provide lots to its citizens
a poor and unproductive country can not

you shall discovery this all too soon
Except there will always be people left behind if it's privatized. You need to stop trying to justify this. The minute you said it's a parent's responsibility for their child, you really said it's NOT also the responsibility of a citizen society to care for those in need. You are saying that if the parents can't afford the Healthcare then the child dying is societally acceptable.

It's the ol' Libertarian no one else matters excuse.

I counter an uncaring society is not a productive one, a society of dick workers is an unproductive one. A society that beats down its working class into poverty is one ripe for civil unrest.

You think that CEO death is random? It's a symptom. You think Elon doing what he is doing is new? Look at the Robber Baron's of the 1920's. You think a right wing SCOTUS is new. Same thing. Pandemic? War weary nations? Wealth concentration? Oligarchs? Rising populist sentiments changing political dynamics? Migrants crisis?

History is repeating itself. And it's going to get ugly.
 

Butler1000

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declaring a CEO deserve to be murder is disgusting and unbelievably petty
what a horrible thing to say

the loonies paint the victim as deserving to be murdered.
tomorrow you will support bail reform to get violent criminals back on the streets sooner

that is so messed up
Denying 32% of healthcare claims is more disgusting. For profit. Fuck him. He paid for protection from the politicians to run his middleman scam. They couldn't protect him.

It was ONE OF HIS OWN THAT DID IT. The killers family is a prominent one, 1%ers with elected officials in the family. Well known in the area. That's how bad this CEO was.

He was a drug dealer writ large who shorted his customers. Fuck him.
 

JohnLarue

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Except there will always be people left behind if it's privatized.
you have not required any significant public health care for sometime
2 years wait time of a hip replacement in bc
a trip to the emergency ward is a whole day affair if you are lucky

You need to stop trying to justify this.
do not tell me what i need to do

The minute you said it's a parent's responsibility for their child, you really said it's NOT also the responsibility of a citizen society to care for those in need.
it is the parent's responsibility for their child

You are saying that if the parents can't afford the Healthcare then the child dying is societally acceptable.
no i am saying do not have a child unless you are willing to accept full responsibility for that child, including their health care

It's the ol' Libertarian no one else matters excuse.
one can be quite charitable if one gets to decide
you want to steal the option to decide from others

I counter an uncaring society is not a productive one, a society of dick workers is an unproductive one. A society that beats down its working class into poverty is one ripe for civil unrest.
Trudeau just ran the caring / woke society experiment for 9 years
it did not go well

Canadians generate $50 of GDP per hour worked
Americans generate $80 of GDP per hour worked

the cost of housing in Canada is way higher than in the states
the cost of living in Canada is way higher than in the states
the cost of taxation in Canada is way higher than in the states

we produce less and spend more and fuel the difference via debt / money printing
and we need to compete with our largest trading partner

how long do you think we can keep that going ?




You think that CEO death is random? It's a symptom.
no it was a murder of an innocent man ( likely a husband / father, not a thought about his family from you ) by a Wako seeking to blame others for his misfortune

you are trying to justify vigilantly justice by calling it a "symptom." of society
vigilantly justice is chaos

You think Elon doing what he is doing is new? Look at the Robber Baron's of the 1920's. You think a right wing SCOTUS is new. Same thing. Pandemic? War weary nations? Wealth concentration? Oligarchs? Rising populist sentiments changing political dynamics? Migrants crisis?

History is repeating itself. And it's going to get ugly.
it usually does get ugly when the failed socialist experiment is repeated
 

JohnLarue

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Denying 32% of healthcare claims is more disgusting. For profit. Fuck him. He paid for protection from the politicians to run his middleman scam. They couldn't protect him.

It was ONE OF HIS OWN THAT DID IT. The killers family is a prominent one, 1%ers with elected officials in the family. Well known in the area. That's how bad this CEO was.

He was a drug dealer writ large who shorted his customers. Fuck him.
if he broke the law , let law enforcement deal with him
it was a cold blooded murder of an innocent man

the killers family is irrelevant

vigilantly justice is chaos
 

DesRicardo

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not at all
i am quite correct


Exactly when has that ever happened ?
we have had income taxes since introduced as a temporary measure during WW1, so the experiment has been run for over a century

Trudeau has increased the overall tax burden on Canadians and the net result is a massive govt debt, record visits to food banks, a housing crisis , a cost of living crisis and the wealth transfer appear to be to liberal insiders STDC

but you will get it right the next time ?

not sure what your message is here
lol you are completely wrong.
You live in Canada and have medical coverage. :ROFLMAO:
If you get cancer or need surgery, will you tell the hospital to forward all charges to your credit card? I think not.

Trudeau has nothing to do with this. He's just an bad politician in general. Money doesn't fix bad policy, it's a completely different argument.

You just don't want the wealthy to pay, period. That's not right. you're wrong.

the left should not have promoted an airhead as a candidate



the left is just guilty of playing the lobby for campaign contributions/ personal wealth
can you say hunter Biden ?

yes lobbying is shameful ,
democracy does beats the dictatorships that socialist ideals degenerate into
You don't believe in a democray, you believe in a Plutocracy.

You're acting like the richer someone is the more valid their position is. This is how third world countries operate, which is where America is heading.

the headline of the article you posted was about tesla executives


you have shown nothing other than unachievable loonie left ideals

Just more personal opinion.



no, it is to drive efficiency in the operations to ensue the long term viability of the organization
an organization must be profitable / sustainable / competitive in order to
1.meet its customers demand
2 pay its employees



WTF you are very confused about why individuals start / run a business
it is to meet a market demand . - which greatly benefits society
nobody is incentivized to cut the American working class out the process and the wealth
that is just loonie left clap trap
No my friend, you are confused and delusional.

The reason for running a business is to return profits to owners/investors.

that is just loonie left speak for not wanting to deal with reality

the individual pursuit of wealth produces a better out come than expecting reliance on the nanny state
you will soon see how 10 years of left policies plays out and it is going to be ugly
You are acting like a puppet and a puppet only says what the man with his hand up its ass tells him to.

To call the warning of Oligarchies influencing the political process a left policy or idea is pure ignorance.

You don't care about Democracy, you don't care about the American people and you don't care about the country they live in.
 

DesRicardo

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really, it could the fact you are not cluing in


billionaires have not agreed to give their wealth away via taxation



the left always talk about the fair share, but refuse to say exactly what is the fair share
the reality is tax the rich until they are rich no more
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This has nothing to do with being left or right. It's just Common Sense.

If a handful of people are hoarding the wealth and a growing pool of people can't make ends meet, what direction will society go? It's not difficult to see where this is going.
 
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