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Skoob

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Trump is taking care of himself and his billionaire backers... everything else is a con you apparently fell for...Doh!
Last few times you responded to one of my posts I had to show you proof of your ignorance. Then you went quiet.
Now you're back.
Do yourself a favour and stop trolling people...you're just not that good at it.
 
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Shaquille Oatmeal

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OMFG!
All this time and you have no idea that the Liberals were found in court (Jan 2024) to have violated the Canadian Charter of Rights?

Why don't you first educate yourself before you start arguing with people about things you have no clue about?
Try that.
The convoy thing?
Well even if you were comparing yourself to the government in your response, how does that help your case?
I characterized your statement as treasonous because it was supportive of a foreign leader who undermined Canada's sovereignty.
 

Skoob

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The convoy thing?
Well even if you were comparing yourself to the government in your response, how does that help your case?
I characterized your statement as treasonous because it was supportive of a foreign leader who undermined Canada's sovereignty.
It helps my case because you are calling the wrong people treasonous.

Take a few days and catch up and then we can continue the discussion. I can't argue with someone who is not informed.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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It helps my case because you are calling the wrong people treasonous.
But you did make a treasonous statement.
Canada can only become the US's 51st state if it were to be able to successfully invade Canada, thereby bringing an end to Canadian sovereignty.
You supported the leader that made the statement.
That is objectively treasonous.
Tell me why your statement isn't treasonous?
 

Butler1000

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It is much closer to the truth. He clearly stated it's a security issue. Plans to use the border security excuse. And who did Trudeau take down? Not a trade minister, but the Security Minister.

All Canada has to do is add some patrols, buy some tech and few choppers from USA vendors, announce a joint task force, and suddenly Trump will declare a win. It's all optics. And we get hopefully less guns crossing the border.

Why is this such a bad thing?

He will have too much push back from USA exporters, the Teamsters, and his own party to really do this. Everyone will want an "exemption " resulting in another watered down trade announcement in about a year, before the midterms, declaring another "victory" that will be little.

So relax, take out the emotion, and really wander down the thought paths.

Well geez, I am so smart! S-M-R-T!
 

Skoob

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But you did make a treasonous statement.
Canada can only become the US's 51st state if it were to be able to successfully invade Canada, thereby bringing an end to Canadian sovereignty.
You supported the leader that made the statement.
That is objectively treasonous.
Tell me why your statement isn't treasonous?
Who says two countries can't merge into one without an invasion? Why would that be treasonous if it's happened globally throughout history? Why would stating one's opinion about that be treasonous?

Now tell me why a government who violates its country's charter of rights is not considered treasonous?
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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Who says two countries can't merge into one without an invasion? Why would that be treasonous if it's happened globally throughout history?
Most Canadians dont want that.
If it were to happen, there would be violence and war.
So yes it would be treasonous to support a foreign leader who undermines Canadian sovereignty.
Your statement was therefore characterized as treasonous.
 

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Depends on the products and if it does make things more expensive, it's a short term pain for long term gain.
He's trying to make America great again if you haven't been paying attention.
He's trying to make his bank account fat again in case you haven't been paying attention. I know it's inconvenient but have you noticed how many millionaires are in his proposed cabinet and how many corporations are 'donating' to his inauguration?
 

Skoob

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Most Canadians dont want that.
If it were to happen, there would be violence and war.
So yes it would be treasonous to support a foreign leader who undermines Canadian sovereignty.
Your statement was therefore characterized as treasonous.
Are you basing your argument on an official poll? Are you basing your argument on "if" and prophecy?

How is someone's opinion considered to undermine anything?

I'll ask again (because you keep avoiding the question): Why don't you consider a government that violates its country's charter of rights to be considered treasonous?
 

Skoob

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He's trying to make his bank account fat again in case you haven't been paying attention. I know it's inconvenient but have you noticed how many millionaires are in his proposed cabinet and how many corporations are 'donating' to his inauguration?
Is that the go-to conspiracy theory when there's a politician you just don't like?

Last I checked the Dems raised much more money from their wealthy "friends". By your measure they are much worse right?
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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Are you basing your argument on an official poll? Are you basing your argument on "if" and prophecy?

How is someone's opinion considered to undermine anything?

I'll ask again (because you keep avoiding the question): Why don't you consider a government that violates its country's charter of rights to be considered treasonous?
Well this poll suggests that 13% of Canadians think that we should be the US's 51st state.
At the very least 87% don't and would consider your statement treasonous.
 

wigglee

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Who says two countries can't merge into one without an invasion? Why would that be treasonous if it's happened globally throughout history? Why would stating one's opinion about that be treasonous?

Now tell me why a government who violates its country's charter of rights is not considered treasonous?
Just like Ukraine is "merging" with Russia? Yea...you're a traitor and Trump could get you to turncoat with just a cheeseburger.
 

Skoob

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Just like Ukraine is "merging" with Russia? Yea...you're a traitor and Trump could get you to turncoat with just a cheeseburger.
The only traitors are governments that violate your rights like the federal Liberals have done while people like you pretend that's a good thing.
 

wigglee

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The only traitors are governments that violate your rights like the federal Liberals have done while people like you pretend that's a good thing.
What rights were violated? We can now smoke pot legally thanks to the Libs. Or are you still bumming about the covid thing? Sometimes nations have to pull together protect the good of all. Would you call asking people to enlist for WW2 an attack on your freedom?
 

Skoob

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What rights were violated? We can now smoke pot legally thanks to the Libs. Or are you still bumming about the covid thing? Sometimes nations have to pull together protect the good of all. Would you call asking people to enlist for WW2 an attack on your freedom?
And sometimes people need to speed to get somewhere in an emergency...it's still breaking the law and isn't justified.

Any more excuses for Trudeau's Burning House of Shit you still want to make?
 

wigglee

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And sometimes people need to speed to get somewhere in an emergency...it's still breaking the law and isn't justified.

Any more excuses for Trudeau's Burning House of Shit you still want to make?
You're a master of irrational comparisons! Let me know when you've made a citizen's arrest on a speeding cop. I'll send a moist towelette to your cell.
 
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