So apply the rule of law, and deport violent criminals.
actually some violent criminals will be legal citizens so that wont work
as citizen of the US they will have constitutional rights
and violent criminal Canadian citizens will be protected by our charter
As much as I world love to ship out all violent criminals it cant be done, some are citizens with rights
And strengthen border security at the same time. I am not proposing an open border.
sure you are
For the 11M pre-existing illegal immigrants, this so called rule of law has not been applied for many decades.
sure it has
are you claiming there have been no deportations from the US for decades ?
11 million ( actualy quite a few more than that, as you were shown) is quite a backlog so you can say the rule of law has not been applied efficiently
It is legally complicated as well as they have ties to the land now.
no they don't
criminals are separated from their so called ties everyday when shipped off to prison
So deporting them under the guise of applying the rule of law, is not really about the application of the rule of law if we are being honest.
The real intent is far right blood and soil nationalism.
dont be stupid
the rule of law has to be applied equally and consistently
When your choice is between helping someone who is otherwise an upstanding citizen become legal residents vs destroying their families, choosing the latter, is not an intent to apply rule of law, but to purposefully hurt people.
they are not citizens, upstanding or not
the rule of law has to be applied equally and consistently
what is dangerous is not applying the rule of law
equally and consistently as that permits criminals to self justify breaking the law at their convivence
hell if you allow 15 people to illegally enter the country on a Monday without penalty, why can I not illegally bring in15 cases of Kentucky bourbon on a Tuesday ?
The bourbon wont be using health care or other public services , the bourbon wont need housing ( my basement is more than welcoming for bourbon)
and there is zero risk of the bourbon committing another crime, violent or otherwise
you can not do either as
it is against the law
Instead, as you have suggested, in your second point here, give them a legal path to citizenship (or another status that is legal).
nobody said illegals immigrants cant apply before are they caught, processed and deported
they will have to go to the back of the line as
the rule of law has to be applied equally and consistently
if they have committed a second crime while in the new country ...... adios
if their application is successful then they should be
- admonished for breaking the law,
- fined for breaking the law, and then
- welcomed into the country as a legal immigrant with best wishes for success
do you get it now ?
If you want to enter a new country do it legally
show some god dam respect for the new countries laws and obey these laws
Combined with deportation of criminals and stronger borders, it would reduce illegal immigration in the future while avoiding a humanitarian crisis in the present.
deporting all the illegal immigrants would also reduce illegal immigration in the future and right quickly
sure there is
you want a blanket pardon for 10s of millions of criminals
that is radical
the southern boarder crossings would be overwhelmed within days of the announcement
it would be like the wildebeests heading for a river in the Serengeti
It is quite common to enact new laws, repeal old ones, modify old ones.
it sure is
you are likely to see this soon and you are going to be very disappointed
I am proposing to enact new ones and modify old ones and then apply them.
propose away
what you want isn't going to happen in the US or Canada
It does not go against your strict "rule of law" argument.
sure it does
just ask the guy who has been patiently waiting for this and his families
legal application to be processed if the rule of law has been
applied equally and consistently
I am sure he wont be pleased to know the evil gang bangers in LA county got preferential treatment over him and his law abiding family
Beyond this I am not going to keep repeating this.
I believe I have said this enough number of times
yes sadly you do not appear to be cluing in
you are in for a big disappointment