TRUMP WINS

Frankfooter

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Lefties love to play the victim when theyre put in their place. Go fly a kite.

Trump and Polievre will reshape North America for the better soon enough.
trump is senile and incompetent. He won't last 4 years.
Jeff is IDU, he's had the MSM and corporate money backing and still nobody likes him.

Is PeePee stil in hiding, or has he come out to get his security clearance yet?
 

Anbarandy

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More MAGAnomic theory:

- all votes final, no refunds or trade ins allowed

- there are MAGA suckers born every minute

- fool 'em and grift 'em once, shame on them; fool ' em and grift 'em again; fool and grift 'em into their graves
 

roddermac

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Import something for China for $100.
rump ads 20% tariff
So now that import costs you $120

Who will pay that extra $20 in cost?
You don't get it. If it becomes too expensive to import then they make it in America for the same cost without the tariff. Add in the fact it employs Americans who will in turn pay taxes. That is the whole point of tariffs.
 
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Anbarandy

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You don't get it. If it becomes too expensive to import then they make it in America for the same cost without the tariff. Add in the fact it employees Americans who will in turn pay taxes. That is the whole point of tariffs.
Oh look, more MAGAnomics extrapolated and splayed out so exquisitely and elegantly like the world has never seen before.

Proud grad of Trump University, I see.

Very impressive.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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You don't get it. If it becomes too expensive to import then they make it in America for the same cost without the tariff. Add in the fact it employees Americans who will in turn pay taxes. That is the whole point of tariffs.
Trump's proposed 60% universal tariff will do fuck all.
Chinese cost of labour, overhead is so low, that Trump would likely need 250% to even make companies in the US start thinking about making drastic changes by bringing back manufacturing.
Additionally, China will simply slap retaliatory tariffs on the US.
It is your biggest market where they can manufacture goods at a fraction of the price you can.
So you lose your market too on top of this.
This is why even the MAGA hats are manufactured in China lol.
 
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JohnLarue

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Wow tough guy you are :)
do you know of many people who like to b intentionally deceived ?

Unfortunately for you I could care less of your condescending opinion. Cheers.
no massive surprise, lying scumbags do not care what others think

next time proof read your lies
 
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Leimonis

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You don't get it. If it becomes too expensive to import then they make it in America for the same cost without the tariff. Add in the fact it employees Americans who will in turn pay taxes. That is the whole point of tariffs.
no this is a wet dream. The "whole point of the tariffs" was to make dreamers vote.
 
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Leimonis

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if I may add:
while tariffs can benefit specific industries, they often come with trade-offs that could harm the broader economy. Here's a balanced look at the potential negative impacts and why tariffs may hurt more than help:

1. Higher Prices for Consumers

  • How It Hurts:Tariffs on imports increase costs for businesses, which often pass these costs onto consumers. For example:
    • Tariffs on steel and aluminum make cars and appliances more expensive.
    • Tariffs on electronics raise the cost of smartphones and other devices.
  • Example: The Trump administration's tariffs on Chinese goods led to higher prices on a range of products, from washing machines to toys.
2. Retaliatory Tariffs
  • How It Hurts:Other countries may respond with their own tariffs on U.S. exports, hurting industries reliant on international markets. For example:
    • U.S. farmers were hit hard by retaliatory tariffs from China on soybeans and pork during the U.S.-China trade war.
  • Outcome: Retaliation can escalate trade tensions, reducing global trade flows.
3. Disruption to Supply Chains
  • How It Hurts: Modern industries rely on global supply chains. Tariffs increase costs and complicate sourcing, particularly for industries dependent on specific foreign inputs (e.g., semiconductors, rare earth metals).
  • Example: Automotive manufacturers faced increased production costs due to tariffs on imported parts, affecting profitability and jobs.
4. Risk to Domestic Jobs
  • How It Hurts:While tariffs may protect jobs in one sector, they can hurt jobs in others. For instance:
    • Industries using imported materials may cut jobs due to higher input costs.
    • Retailers and distributors relying on imported goods might downsize.
  • Example: In 2018, U.S. tariffs on steel led to job growth in steel production but job losses in industries like construction and manufacturing due to higher costs.
5. Limited Effectiveness in the Long Term
  • How It Hurts:Tariffs provide short-term relief but may not address structural problems. For example:
    • Industries shielded from competition may lack incentives to innovate or improve efficiency.
    • Over time, domestic industries might still struggle if they cannot compete globally.
  • Example: Tariffs on solar panels boosted U.S. panel production but failed to create a sustainable competitive advantage as costs remained higher than foreign alternatives.
6. Potential for Trade Wars
  • How It Hurts: Aggressive use of tariffs can spiral into trade wars, reducing global trade volumes and slowing economic growth.
  • Example: The U.S.-China trade war saw a tit-for-tat escalation of tariffs, which hurt both economies and dampened global trade.
7. Increased Bureaucratic Complexity
  • How It Hurts: Tariffs create administrative burdens for businesses and governments, as they navigate customs, exemptions, and compliance rules.
  • Example: Small and medium-sized businesses often struggle with the added costs and complexities of tariff compliance.
Alternatives to Tariffs:
  1. Subsidies and Tax Incentives: Support domestic industries without imposing costs on consumers.
  2. Investment in Innovation: Encourage competitiveness through R&D, workforce training, and infrastructure development.
  3. Strategic Partnerships: Negotiate trade deals that benefit domestic industries without escalating tensions.
  4. Antidumping Measures: Target unfair trade practices more narrowly rather than applying broad tariffs.
Conclusion
Tariffs can provide targeted benefits for struggling industries, but the broader economic impact often includes higher prices, job losses in other sectors, and retaliatory measures. Policymakers must weigh these trade-offs carefully and consider whether other tools might achieve the same goals with fewer downsides.
 
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