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The 2024 US Presidential election

WyattEarp

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Didnt they have the house and the senate in 2016 and still fail to repeal Obamacare?
Obamacare will be tweaked one way or another. There aren't great political minds on either side that can contend with the complexity of healthcare, but they will soldier on.
 

WyattEarp

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Better question is will liberals in Canada continue to compare Poilievre to Trump (as they've been doing over the past few years), seeing the results south of the border?
They may need some new tactics.
a lot of pundits said this would be good for Trudeau but I don’t see it. Justin just lost his “PP is bad like Trump” card. They may have to run on their record now…
I always get the impression that many here fear Trump-style populism and conservatism influencing Canadians to reject their own progressive creep.
 

bver_hunter

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Time to take a few people off ignore for 24 hrs

@squeezer
@shack
@bver_hunter
@basketcase
@mandrill
@Frankfooter

How are you Lefties feeling this morning??!! 😂
It must really suck to be on the losing side for 2 out of the last 3 elections, huh??!!
Next 4 years of TDS are gonna be comedy gold.
Please dont let me down. I expect at least a dozen anti-Trump threads daily 👍
Could not give a shit, as the Americans will deserve what will be coming for them in the next 4 years.
He will give big tax breaks to the elitists as he promised.
The rest of the Americans will have to pay the additional costs of $4000 per year as a result of the tariffs.
But we in Canada will be affected by it and yet Nasty and the rest off the righties will moan and groan and of course blame the Liberals for the tit for tat retaliation tariff retaliations!!
No doubt though the elections were rigged!!😊
 

bver_hunter

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All successful people have business successes and failures. Fact is, he's doing pretty good which is the point you keep missing.
Trump is doing the best he can for his country. Trudeau does the best he can for himself.
What 6 businesses going bankrupt is the norm? Scamming University students is a regular occurrence?
Trump is only going to benefit himself and his elitist cronies with big tax cuts for them. We know that his golf courses benefitted from his previous Presidential reign. So did his hotels etc.
His son-in-law got a whopping $2.1 Billion in Saudi money. Ivanka got all those 41 Trademarks from the Chinese Govt. Trump Junior spent $100,000 of taxpayers money for his trip to India to sell his father's luxury condos, while charging $38,000 for the elitists in India to attend his so called presentations. Then you say that Trump is doing the best for his nation, while wanting to get rid of the Affordable Healthcare Act? At least Trudeau is actually working for the Canadians with Childcare, Dental and Pharmacare. With the co-operation of the Provinces and Municipalities, he is delivering on new affordable houses!!
 
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bver_hunter

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Yeah, sure you dont :rolleyes:

You were the one that was concerned when both Biden and Trudeau won their elections!!
Yes, my only gripe is on threatened tariffs to be imposed on Canada that political parties of all stripes are presently are quite concerned.
Hopefully Trump will do the usual that he did in his first term.........break his promises!!
 
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WyattEarp

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You were the one that was concerned when both Biden and Trudeau won their elections!!
Yes, my only gripe is on threatened tariffs to be imposed on Canada that political parties of all stripes are presently are quite concerned.
Hopefully Trump will do the usual that he did in his first term.........break his promises!!
Is there a way for us to reverse tariff our news broadcasts?
The U.S. should make some money off your obsession.
 

The Oracle

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What 6 businesses going bankrupt is the norm? Scamming University students is a regular occurrence?
Trump is only going to benefit himself and his elitist cronies with big tax cuts for them. We know that his golf courses benefitted from his previous Presidential reign. So did his hotels etc.
His son-in-law got a whopping $2.1 Billion in Saudi money. Ivanka got all those 41 Trademarks from the Chinese Govt. Trump Junior spent $100,000 of taxpayers money for his trip to India to sell his father's luxury condos, while charging $38,000 for the elitists in India to attend his so called presentations. Then you say that Trump is doing the best for his nation, while wanting to get rid of the Affordable Healthcare Act? At least Trudeau is actually working for the Canadians with Childcare, Dental and Pharmacare. With the co-operation of the Provinces and Municipalities, he is delivering on new affordable houses!!

Changed that signature pic fast didn't ya, lol.
 
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bver_hunter

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This is the Reality!!

It’s a US first – a CONVICTED criminal for president – but felon Trump’s re-election was par for the course

The world is reeling with the news that the US has re-elected Donald Trump as president.

Over 71 million Americans have just said they want to put the superficial citrus-tanned billionaire, fascist, and fraudster over a Black woman in the Oval Office.

That is, the US just showed once more what an utter racist, misogynistic, white supremacist shithole it is. Not that it’s anything new for the axis of imperial plunder and terror.

Welcome to the US 2024, where two self-serving white male nepo-babies can climb to the highest office. A country where the president is a literal convicted felon and rapist. And yet, why is anyone surprised?

Trump re-election: return of the baby blimp anyone?
This is of course, the same whiny little Trump-baby who threw his toys out of the pram after the last election. The former and now re-elected president has indictment charges still hanging over his headover his post-election paddy. Specifically, these are charges for attempting to subvert the election results. Of course, his puerile disinformation campaign culminated in the January 2021 Capitol coup.

Trump was set to go on trial in March, but managed to delay it. Then, in July, the Supreme Court ruled that he had presidential immunity from prosecution for acts committed while in office. However, prosecutors filed revised indictment charges, broadly along the same lines in August. However, his trial hasn’t happened yet. Now he’s president, will it? The juries out – but we’re willing to bet he’ll now get the administration’s justice department to drop the case.

Did we mention he’s also facing charges for squirreling away classified documents at his residence in Mar-a-Lago?


Since the US failed to throw Trump out with the bath water, he can now follow through on his threat to throw out special counsel Jack Smith who’s bringing both the cases too. In October, Trump boasted in a radio interview that:

Oh, it’s so easy. It’s so easy … I would fire him within two seconds
So that’s that then.

A US first: a convicted felon in the Oval Office
However, he is already a convicted felon for other dodgy dealings. Most notably, in May, a New York court found Trump guilty on 34 felony counts for falsifying business records.

It was over hush money he’d bunged to porn star Stormy Daniels.

However, Trump was set to face sentencing on 26 November. Now, at minimum, the sex pest’s new rise to the office of power will probably delay his sentencing until after his presidency. More likely, he’ll find a way to quash this too.

Another trial that judges will now have to delay? The Georgia election interference case. This revolves around Trump and his right-wing MAGA-mugs spreading lies about voter fraud in the state. Did he plot to send fake electors to Washington as well? Yes, he did. He and his 18 allies face charges for criminal enterprise over this.

Again though, the slippery billionaire bullshitter won’t be getting his comeuppance on this anytime soon. At least, not now he’s head honcho of this democratic farce once more.


Make it make sense. Trump – a convicted felon and pending indictment charges from trying to overturn the results of the previous election – could stand for president. Now he is president, he’ll make damn sure he won’t be facing justice for any of it.

A sexual predator for president
If being a fraudster and flag-shagging fascist felon weren’t enough to make you president, clearly being a literal rapist clinches it.

In May 2023, a jury found Trump liable for sexual abusing columnist E. Jean Carroll, and fined him $5m.

And following this in August 2023, a judge ruled in a defamation trial that Carroll’s allegations Trump had raped her, were “substantially true”. In short, he’s a rapist – which tracks from the “grab em’ by the pussy” president.

But of course, where there’s the misogynistic man-baby, there’s sexual assault allegations in spades. In fact, 26 women have come forward with disgusting accounts of Trump’s sexual misconduct.

This includes his first wife, Ivana, who also made rape allegations in their divorce deposition and a former business partner who described his attempted rape.

The message Trump’s return to the Oval Office sends is that powerful men can get away with it. Women already know this and live this reality every day. However, now over 71 million Americans have told survivors of sexual assault that male violence against women and girls doesn’t matter to them.

System is set up by, and for, privileged white pricks like Trump
On the same day the electorate hit the booths, California voted to pass ‘Proposition 36’ which repealed a progressive abolitionary law. Proposition 47 had redirected funds away from the prison industrial complex and into drug and mental health treatment programmes, and homelessness prevention. But in passing Proposition 36, California is ‘trumping’ up criminal charges for drug possession and small theft. It will now also gut these community-based care programmes.

So, in the same country that just basically said a rich white male rapist and convicted criminal can be president, one state has simultaneously voted to lock up more poor, marginalised people crooked capitalists are exploiting. In fact, it was union-busting, wage thieving corporations like Walmart that sponsored the proposition. Say no more.

And speaking of exploitation, California looks like it might also have voted to continue the carceral practice of “involuntary servitude“. That is, forcing incarcerated people into mandatory work placements rather and eating up the time they could otherwise use for things that help their rehabilitation. It’s state-sanctioned slavery by any other name.

None of this is unrelated. The ‘Yes to Proposition 36’ campaign gave $1m to the Republicans a week before the election. Oh, and incarcerated people can’t vote by the way. Trump though? He can and (clearly) did put a cross in the box for his own smug Sunny D-stained mug. All while the US disenfranchises 4.4 million people with felony convictions.

This is the US writ large. Its criminal justice system, its constitution, its democratic machinery are all intrinsic vestiges of its colonial, racist slave past. The structural violence against women, and poor, disabled, Black, and Brown communities is a feature, not a flaw. Not by chance, but by design.

You don’t really have to wonder how so many US citizens could vote from Trump in this context. It’s because this patriarchal, white supremacist system was made to elevate his white, male, cishet ass. Protecting him from accountability is a function of this – and now, that’s precisely what it will do.

 
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Phil C. McNasty

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This is the Reality!!

It’s a US first – a CONVICTED criminal for president – but felon Trump’s re-election was par for the course

The world is reeling with the news that the US has re-elected Donald Trump as president.

Over 71 million Americans have just said they want to put the superficial citrus-tanned billionaire, fascist, and fraudster over a Black woman in the Oval Office.

That is, the US just showed once more what an utter racist, misogynistic, white supremacist shithole it is. Not that it’s anything new for the axis of imperial plunder and terror.

Welcome to the US 2024, where two self-serving white male nepo-babies can climb to the highest office. A country where the president is a literal convicted felon and rapist. And yet, why is anyone surprised?

Trump re-election: return of the baby blimp anyone?
This is of course, the same whiny little Trump-baby who threw his toys out of the pram after the last election. The former and now re-elected president has indictment charges still hanging over his headover his post-election paddy. Specifically, these are charges for attempting to subvert the election results. Of course, his puerile disinformation campaign culminated in the January 2021 Capitol coup.

Trump was set to go on trial in March, but managed to delay it. Then, in July, the Supreme Court ruled that he had presidential immunity from prosecution for acts committed while in office. However, prosecutors filed revised indictment charges, broadly along the same lines in August. However, his trial hasn’t happened yet. Now he’s president, will it? The juries out – but we’re willing to bet he’ll now get the administration’s justice department to drop the case.

Did we mention he’s also facing charges for squirreling away classified documents at his residence in Mar-a-Lago?


Since the US failed to throw Trump out with the bath water, he can now follow through on his threat to throw out special counsel Jack Smith who’s bringing both the cases too. In October, Trump boasted in a radio interview that:


So that’s that then.

A US first: a convicted felon in the Oval Office
However, he is already a convicted felon for other dodgy dealings. Most notably, in May, a New York court found Trump guilty on 34 felony counts for falsifying business records.

It was over hush money he’d bunged to porn star Stormy Daniels.

However, Trump was set to face sentencing on 26 November. Now, at minimum, the sex pest’s new rise to the office of power will probably delay his sentencing until after his presidency. More likely, he’ll find a way to quash this too.

Another trial that judges will now have to delay? The Georgia election interference case. This revolves around Trump and his right-wing MAGA-mugs spreading lies about voter fraud in the state. Did he plot to send fake electors to Washington as well? Yes, he did. He and his 18 allies face charges for criminal enterprise over this.

Again though, the slippery billionaire bullshitter won’t be getting his comeuppance on this anytime soon. At least, not now he’s head honcho of this democratic farce once more.


Make it make sense. Trump – a convicted felon and pending indictment charges from trying to overturn the results of the previous election – could stand for president. Now he is president, he’ll make damn sure he won’t be facing justice for any of it.

A sexual predator for president
If being a fraudster and flag-shagging fascist felon weren’t enough to make you president, clearly being a literal rapist clinches it.

In May 2023, a jury found Trump liable for sexual abusing columnist E. Jean Carroll, and fined him $5m.

And following this in August 2023, a judge ruled in a defamation trial that Carroll’s allegations Trump had raped her, were “substantially true”. In short, he’s a rapist – which tracks from the “grab em’ by the pussy” president.

But of course, where there’s the misogynistic man-baby, there’s sexual assault allegations in spades. In fact, 26 women have come forward with disgusting accounts of Trump’s sexual misconduct.

This includes his first wife, Ivana, who also made rape allegations in their divorce deposition and a former business partner who described his attempted rape.

The message Trump’s return to the Oval Office sends is that powerful men can get away with it. Women already know this and live this reality every day. However, now over 71 million Americans have told survivors of sexual assault that male violence against women and girls doesn’t matter to them.

System is set up by, and for, privileged white pricks like Trump
On the same day the electorate hit the booths, California voted to pass ‘Proposition 36’ which repealed a progressive abolitionary law. Proposition 47 had redirected funds away from the prison industrial complex and into drug and mental health treatment programmes, and homelessness prevention. But in passing Proposition 36, California is ‘trumping’ up criminal charges for drug possession and small theft. It will now also gut these community-based care programmes.

So, in the same country that just basically said a rich white male rapist and convicted criminal can be president, one state has simultaneously voted to lock up more poor, marginalised people crooked capitalists are exploiting. In fact, it was union-busting, wage thieving corporations like Walmart that sponsored the proposition. Say no more.

And speaking of exploitation, California looks like it might also have voted to continue the carceral practice of “involuntary servitude“. That is, forcing incarcerated people into mandatory work placements rather and eating up the time they could otherwise use for things that help their rehabilitation. It’s state-sanctioned slavery by any other name.

None of this is unrelated. The ‘Yes to Proposition 36’ campaign gave $1m to the Republicans a week before the election. Oh, and incarcerated people can’t vote by the way. Trump though? He can and (clearly) did put a cross in the box for his own smug Sunny D-stained mug. All while the US disenfranchises 4.4 million people with felony convictions.

This is the US writ large. Its criminal justice system, its constitution, its democratic machinery are all intrinsic vestiges of its colonial, racist slave past. The structural violence against women, and poor, disabled, Black, and Brown communities is a feature, not a flaw. Not by chance, but by design.

You don’t really have to wonder how so many US citizens could vote from Trump in this context. It’s because this patriarchal, white supremacist system was made to elevate his white, male, cishet ass. Protecting him from accountability is a function of this – and now, that’s precisely what it will do.

I thought you said you didnt care?? :D
 
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