More people adds more cars, not more lanes. You keep adding more people to the GTA, you will also add more cars. And then you will need more lanes.
It's not hard to figure this out.
Ford passed the legislation for ripping up the bike lanes TODAY!!
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It's not hard to figure this out.
So here you go. Bike lanes east and west on College St.
Almost unused. Wide enough for three riders abreast - on EACH side of the street. That's room for 6 bikes at a time. And buffeted with a huge fat curb. That's 2 entire car lanes.
Bikes take less space than cars.
Put more people on bikes and its less crowded.
I see one cyclist and no moving cars heading towards us, just a lot of parked cars taking up space that could be used by commuters.
Do you really think everyone will ride their bike all over the city all the time.
Of course not.
But the numbers are way up with more bike lanes and that means fewer people in cars and more space for roads.
Downtown businesses love bike lanes, cyclists can stop where ever they want for shopping or food.
Cities that put in more bikes are safer and everyone ends up getting around faster.
The numbers are up because the city is unaffordable and parking is too expensive and hard to find. Condo developers no longer offer parking spaces yet the cities population keeps increasing with little to no new transit options available.
The numbers are up because its cheaper, better for you, takes about the same amount of time except that you will know how long it takes you.
If I drive or ttc across the city it could take me 20 minutes or an hour by car or transit but by bike I know how long it will take.
1) Bike lanes are insignificant, especially Toronto's. And all of this nonsense about Europe being different than Toronto when other large Canadian cities such as Montreal and get this Calgary and Edmonton have more extensive bike lanes yet you don't hear the car hog whiners and crybabies over in those cities raise a royal stink about really nothing at all because cars, cars, cars are the culprits in congestion and gridlock.
2) You really are a clueless, misinformed sort regarding City of Toronto council, issues, votes etc. City Hall did not want to tear down the Gardiner. Majority right-wing city councilors along with the right-wing mayor, John Tory voted to spend billions over a decade to send the Gardiner for reconstructive surgery and facelift it's eastern arc to the DVP a few inches to the north. Nip, tuck, Snip, snap. All of which has led directly to the traffic gridlock and congestion on the Gardiner, ingress into egress out of and surrounding area mayhem. This, my dear crybaby single occupancy vehicle driver fucks, not fuckin bike lanes, is causing congestion. You wanted it, you got it!
Where the frick is this bike lane induced congestion on College St. West that you incessantly cry you about?
Show me the bike lane caused congestion on College St. West?
I don't see the congestion; do you see it?
Where is the congestion?
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These businesses like Cyslists because can easily stop and lock their bike and walk into the business as cars just drive by, they may look for parking but mostly they drive away.
Just like in Amsterdam, they built an extensive bike network and everyone uses it as it's the best way to get around.
Still can't go three abreast without exiting the lane. The bike lane is just the ashpalted lane. The gutter isn't the lane, the concrete where people stand after parking, or the city puts sign posts post up isn't the lane. And you'll also note there are right angled curbs in places so you can't get to close to those or else you'll crash out.
And Toronto is not Montreal, nor Calgary or Edmonton? Burgs where you don't get the heads exploding histrionics and verbal diarrhea of pampered, coddled and swathed in diapers, motor vehicle drivers who are the culprits, not bike lanes, in congestion and gridlock.
I mean, c'mon get serious with these faulty inequivalences.
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You don't ever here these BIAs railing against bike lanes nor have emergency services ever raised one iota of alarm of increased response times.
There is also an enormous amount of local area consultation, data gathering, months and months of preparation and planning and city council debate and votes involved versus a bribing, conniving, cynical electioneering blowhard employing the lowest of the low car culture war tribalism to gin up up what is really an insignificant non-factor in congestion and gridlock eaten up by low information, low knowledge, road raging, car is king inner and suburban rednecks.
Calgary, Edmonton and Montreal are all a lot smaller and less congested than Toronto. Calgary has a population of 1.5 million. Toronto has a pop of 7M.
