US, allies sanction Iran for ‘supplying missiles’ to Russia

basketcase

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Prove I said that.
You lie about what I say back down every time I challenge you.
Speaking of back down, I've repeatedly offered but you know you're caught out so refuse to put your account on the line even though we all know you will just sneak back with yet another new handle.
 

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According to you that means half of Israeli Jews are foreigner colonialists.
No more than you or I. Around half of Israeli jews are from indigenous roots while 95% of Canadians are "foreign colonialists".

And their indigenous status doesn't stop you from demanding their removal and claiming it is illegal for them to be in the West Bank.
 

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No more than you or I. Around half of Israeli jews are from indigenous roots while 95% of Canadians are "foreign colonialists".

And their indigenous status doesn't stop you from demanding their removal and claiming it is illegal for them to be in the West Bank.
The difference is that Canada isn't committing genocide, ruling through apartheid and actively stealing more treaty land.

 

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The difference is that Canada isn't committing genocide, ruling through apartheid and actively stealing more treaty land.

Waste basket would argue that Israel would be within their rights to use slaves, because "everyone else did it before".
 
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Waste basket would argue that Israel would be within their rights to use slaves, because "everyone else did it before".
Absolutely not but it is funny considering how often Frank has claimed terrorism is an acceptable response to Jews being in what he considers Palestinian territory.
 
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Absolutely not but it is funny considering how often Frank has claimed terrorism is an acceptable response to Jews being in what he considers Palestinian territory.
Nah, I think you accept it would if Israel did it.

This "frank" obsession of yours is really weird and creepy. Go get help.
 

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WyattEarp

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The economists who predicted the sanctions would bankrupt Russia.
I think Russia is in serious economic decline. It's just not in real time. Russia is a big country. It can feed itself. It can provide itself with basic essentials.

As far as Russia developing as an advanced economy, that dream has probably been shattered for the intermediate term. This is not just the result of the war but the double whammy of demographic decline and young people leaving the country.

What people fail to realize is a dictatorship can hold on for a long, long time masking the underlying problems until one day the regime just suddenly crumbles.

By the way, China is somewhat a friend but they want to sell the Russians stuff. They don't want to invest in and develop Russia. They have their own economic problems.
 
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I think Russia is in serious economic decline. It's just not in real time. Russia is a big country. It can feed itself. It can provide itself with basic essentials.

As far as Russia developing as an advanced economy, that dream has probably been shattered for the intermediate term. This is not just the result of the war but the double whammy of demographic decline and young people leaving the country.

What people fail to realize is a dictatorship can hold on for a long, long time masking the underlying problems until one day the regime just suddenly crumbles.

By the way, China is somewhat a friend but they want to sell the Russians stuff. They don't want to invest in and develop Russia. They have their own economic problems.
Delusional
 

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I think Russia is in serious economic decline. It's just not in real time. Russia is a big country. It can feed itself. It can provide itself with basic essentials.

As far as Russia developing as an advanced economy, that dream has probably been shattered for the intermediate term. This is not just the result of the war but the double whammy of demographic decline and young people leaving the country.

What people fail to realize is a dictatorship can hold on for a long, long time masking the underlying problems until one day the regime just suddenly crumbles.

By the way, China is somewhat a friend but they want to sell the Russians stuff. They don't want to invest in and develop Russia. They have their own economic problems.
Predicting how and whether Russia will collapse is a growth industry. My favourite - just in terms of its sheer clickbait - is Kamilkazani saying it will geographically disintegrate into regional fiefdoms.
 

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Predicting how and whether Russia will collapse is a growth industry. My favourite - just in terms of its sheer clickbait - is Kamilkazani saying it will geographically disintegrate into regional fiefdoms.
Oh, don't confuse me with being a Putin prognosticator. Or worse, thinking the war should be fought because their is a great chance the Putin regime will collapse.

I just challenge this idea that the Russia economy is doing just find, thank you. I also think it's incredibly difficult to know how Russians feel about the war and conditions within Russia. Thus, how would anyone be able to sense how long the Putin regime will last. Putin is one vicious S.O.B. Perhaps he takes his dictatorship to the finish line (i.e. natural causes). Still the current regime configuration might not survive his death very long.
 
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WyattEarp

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Nah, I think you accept it would if Israel did it.

This "frank" obsession of yours is really weird and creepy. Go get help.
In fairness, can one really have an obsession here with someone who posts obsessively?
 
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