The Great Debate
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BREAKING: Springfield, Ohio— 𝗟𝗶𝗳𝗲 𝗹𝗼𝗻𝗴 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗱𝗲𝘁𝗮𝗶𝗹𝘀 𝗵𝗼𝘄 𝘀𝗵𝗲 𝗱𝗶𝘀𝗰𝗼𝘃𝗲𝗿𝗲𝗱 𝗮 𝗱𝗲𝗰𝗮𝗽𝗶𝘁𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝗽𝗶𝗴 𝗵𝗲𝗮𝗱 𝗶𝗻 𝗦𝗻𝘆𝗱𝗲𝗿 𝗣𝗮𝗿𝗸 (where the goose abduction allegations are coming from) 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗲𝘅𝗽𝗹𝗮𝗶𝗻𝘀 𝗵𝗼𝘄 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗶𝘁𝘆 𝗶𝘀 𝘁𝗿𝘆𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗼 𝗽𝗮𝘀𝘀 𝗶𝘁 𝗼𝗳𝗳 𝗮𝘀 “𝗰𝘂𝗹𝘁 𝘀𝘁𝘂𝗳𝗳”. Multiple people she knows have had experiences with Haitian Immigrants saying they are going to curse them with voodoo. “𝗜 𝗱𝗼𝗻’𝘁 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝘃𝗲 𝗺𝘆 𝗵𝗼𝘂𝘀𝗲 𝘂𝗻𝗹𝗲𝘀𝘀 𝗜’𝗺 𝗮𝗿𝗺𝗲𝗱 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗲 𝗺𝘆 𝗽𝗶𝘁-𝗯𝘂𝗹𝗹.” Haitian adults are attending high schools with underage students. “𝗠𝘆 𝟭𝟬 𝘆𝗲𝗮𝗿 𝗼𝗹𝗱 𝗱𝗮𝘂𝗴𝗵𝘁𝗲𝗿 𝗵𝗮𝘀 𝗮 𝟭𝟲 𝘆𝗲𝗮𝗿 𝗼𝗹𝗱 𝗶𝗻 𝗵𝗲𝗿 𝗰𝗹𝗮𝘀𝘀.” She also details being accosted and sexually assaulted by a Haitian Immigrant at a grocery store. “𝗪𝗲’𝗿𝗲 𝗯𝗲𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝘄𝗼𝗿𝘀𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝗻 𝘀𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗻𝗱 𝗰𝗹𝗮𝘀𝘀 𝗰𝗶𝘁𝗶𝘇𝗲𝗻𝘀. 𝗪𝗲 𝗱𝗼𝗻’𝘁 𝗰𝗼𝘂𝗻𝘁, 𝘄𝗲 𝗱𝗼𝗻’𝘁 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗲 𝗮 𝘄𝗼𝗿𝗱.”
Not really.
Immigration is almost always an issue Americans rank highly and I think the US is currently in one of its more anti-immigration phases.
Now, you can say that he's bad at talking about immigration because he rambles and repeats himself and is even more openly racist than the population is willing to accept, sure.
And making immigration the only thing he will talk about probably doesn't help him.
But it would be political malpractice on his part to not make it a somewhat important part of his campaign.
People can argue he won the one earlier this year.
And some in the GOP primaries.
But that it is generally agreed he lost more debates than he won in the general elections but has a 50/50 track record should just remind you that in most cases the debates don't matter that much.
LOL!
Didn't they try the "radio messages are being beamed to Trump's opponent" before?
Maybe I am misremembering that.
The economy isn't everything and it can be recovered. The American conservative movement is culturally deteriorating and is being taken down a dangerous slippery slope, which is more serious. IMHO.
He never actually talks about immigration. He instead dog whistles by saying millions are violently taking over cities and eating pets, which while in 2016 could have created a huge stir, in 2024, doesn't invoke the same reaction. So I am afraid this strategy isn't really working for him like it used to anymore.
As many of Mitch's posts show, fact checking is considered inappropriate and wrong by these people.
The fact ABC hosts questioned in any way what he said means they were biased and against him and she had home-field advantage.
I didn't watch it, but have heard a few different things about this.
No one seems to agree exactly what was going on with the mics.
They were supposed to be cut completely if it wasn't your turn.
Neither of them should have been able to interrupt, but both seemed to be able to sometimes but not always.
And, as you know, Harris wanted Trump's mic on because she was planning to bait him into acting like a blustering idiot.
So I might say, far more than fact checking, ABC leaving the Trump's mic on might have been evidence of them being biased against him.
These will be considered Canada's lost years and it's unlikely they will be recovered. You're not the only member who believes you can just turn the economy on when you think you're ready. I presume some type of direct govt. action would be the chosen remedy. From what I've been reading, the Canadian govt. already controls a lot of the country's spending.
I see Biden and now Harris heading down that path. I could point to Obama but I think he saw the practical limitations to government or at least worked within a limited framework.
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