Again, with a dump of copy and paste which states the obvious with nothing new or revealing. AND definitely does not state as you claimed in your original post, " The flood plains and green spaces where converted to condos, this is a problem caused by higher flooding, but we would have been fine it where not for excess development."
Which flood plains and green spaces were converted to condos? Name them, point them out.
As I stated before, you have predetermined outlook and mindset formed by bias.
Oh, and btw, show us, point out, "all the green spaces on the north side of the Gardiner" that were converted to condos". You make it sound as if that area was a garden of Eden, a green oasis. Show us.
I realize I jumped to the conclusion you where trolling so assuming your not
I've noticed that you're asking for proof, but not accepting the evidence I've provided so far. To better understand what would change your mind, could you please specify what you consider adequate proof or what specific aspects of the topic you're unsure about? This will help me provide more targeted information and address your concerns effectively."
Some possible rewordings to choose from:
- "Can you clarify what kind of evidence would be convincing for you?"
- "What specific concerns or doubts do you have that I can address?"
- "Could you outline what you consider a credible source or convincing argument?"
- "What would it take for you to reconsider your current stance?"
- "Can you provide more context or details about what's driving your skepticism?"
Harsh version (for Trolls)
Read the data, read the reports, you can not read what before your eyes. Prove a counter case. This is ridiculous your just someone who refuses to look at data and insist on others doing your homework and holding your hand. .
I can suggest some ways for you to find the information you're looking for:
- Check online maps and databases, such as the City of Toronto's official website or the Toronto and Region Conservation Authority (TRCA) website, for information on flood plains and green spaces in Toronto.
- Look for reports and studies on urbanization and development in Toronto, which may identify areas where flood plains and green spaces have been converted to condos.
- Consult with local environmental groups, community organizations, or urban planning experts who may have knowledge about specific areas in Toronto where flood plains and green spaces have been developed.
Some areas in Toronto that have seen significant development and urbanization in recent years include:
- The Waterfront area, where former industrial lands have been redeveloped into condos and mixed-use buildings.
- The West Don Lands, a former industrial area that has been redeveloped into a mixed-use neighborhood with condos, parks, and community facilities.
- The Port Lands, a large area of former industrial and natural habitats that is being redeveloped into a mixed-use neighborhood with condos, parks, and community facilities.
Please note that these are just examples, and I would recommend further research to get a more accurate and up-to-date picture of the specific areas you're interested in.
Question why do you doubt this fact? Are you a flat earth advorcate or 6000 year no dino person or something? Ever green space helps mitigate flooding. Less green spaces equal more chance of flooding, simple rule.
PS related
Meanwhile, new Toronto lakefront condominium developments
are proceeding in the Quayside and Portlands neighbourhoods, near the Islands, on
flood plains historically contaminated by heavy metals, oil and coal.
“Workforce housing” is a required part of the plan.
Will Flessig, former Waterfront Toronto CEO, says that middle-income professionals are expected to settle in the waterfront condominiums so that they can be closer to where they work.
But no one in Toronto is talking about the flood plains,
since elected officials apparently consider the issue resolved. Based on a plan developed in 2007, the
federal and provincial governments are investing $1.185 billion to reconstruct the mouth of the Don River so that the water safely flows into Lake Ontario.
However, the waterfront area still remains a flood plain, and is still affected by storm surges associated with climate change.
Building on flood plains has serious consequences, including future
uninsurable buildings as insurance companies anticipate they won’t be able to afford the payouts. A single major flood causes a great deal of damage and requires insurance companies to pay all at once. With a higher frequency of catastrophic floods and the corresponding required payouts, the pool of insurance premiums collected to cover the losses dries up,
and insurance companies face bankruptcy.
Before that happens and buildings are left derelict, people and property are endangered. We recently saw
life-threatening flooding of buildings in Toronto, and there are limited rescue personnel
to address all of the issues at the same time when mass floods happen.
Simultaneously, damage to personal property can be overwhelming — for example, to cars and contents within condominium lockers in underground parking garages. In Toronto, we have also seen
streetcars submerged in water recently with people trapped inside.
Fixing the damage therefore adds costs to public transit. Water quality and disease concerns are also heightened as storm
sewage systems cannot handle increasing rainfall volumes. Over the longer term,
repeated flooding also weakens building foundations.
Hard to manage water levels
On a broader scale in the Great Lakes region, the ability
to adapt to changing conditions is reduced. That’s because the ability of water officials to manage water levels is much more difficult when condominiums and other housing is built on flood plains.
For example, water flows are somewhat controlled in the
Lake Ontario and St. Lawrence River watersheds through an international agreement called Plan 2014. If buildings are in the path of water flow, this complicates and limits the range of adjustment options.
We know now what we’re confronting. Let’s learn from past mistakes. In the best interests of homeowners, the public and climate adaptation, what’s left of Toronto’s waterfront should be public parks, not condominiums billed as “workforce housing.”
Meanwhile, new Toronto lakefront condominium developments
are proceeding in the Quayside and Portlands neighbourhoods, near the Islands, on
flood plains historically contaminated by heavy metals, oil and coal.
“Workforce housing” is a required part of the plan.
Will Flessig, former Waterfront Toronto CEO, says that middle-income professionals are expected to settle in the waterfront condominiums so that they can be closer to where they work.
But no one in Toronto is talking about the flood plains,
since elected officials apparently consider the issue resolved. Based on a plan developed in 2007, the
federal and provincial governments are investing $1.185 billion to reconstruct the mouth of the Don River so that the water safely flows into Lake Ontario.
However, the waterfront area still remains a flood plain, and is still affected by storm surges associated with climate change.
Building on flood plains has serious consequences, including future
uninsurable buildings as insurance companies anticipate they won’t be able to afford the payouts. A single major flood causes a great deal of damage and requires insurance companies to pay all at once. With a higher frequency of catastrophic floods and the corresponding required payouts, the pool of insurance premiums collected to cover the losses dries up,
and insurance companies face bankruptcy.
Before that happens and buildings are left derelict, people and property are endangered. We recently saw
life-threatening flooding of buildings in Toronto, and there are limited rescue personnel
to address all of the issues at the same time when mass floods happen.
Simultaneously, damage to personal property can be overwhelming — for example, to cars and contents within condominium lockers in underground parking garages. In Toronto, we have also seen
streetcars submerged in water recently with people trapped inside.
Fixing the damage therefore adds costs to public transit. Water quality and disease concerns are also heightened as storm
sewage systems cannot handle increasing rainfall volumes. Over the longer term,
repeated flooding also weakens building foundations.
Hard to manage water levels
On a broader scale in the Great Lakes region, the ability
to adapt to changing conditions is reduced. That’s because the ability of water officials to manage water levels is much more difficult when condominiums and other housing is built on flood plains.
For example, water flows are somewhat controlled in the
Lake Ontario and St. Lawrence River watersheds through an international agreement called Plan 2014. If buildings are in the path of water flow, this complicates and limits the range of adjustment options.
We know now what we’re confronting. Let’s learn from past mistakes. In the best interests of homeowners, the public and climate adaptation, what’s left of Toronto’s waterfront should be public parks, not condominiums billed as “workforce housing.”
Meanwhile, new Toronto lakefront condominium developments
are proceeding in the Quayside and Portlands neighbourhoods, near the Islands, on
flood plains historically contaminated by heavy metals, oil and coal.
“Workforce housing” is a required part of the plan.
Will Flessig, former Waterfront Toronto CEO, says that middle-income professionals are expected to settle in the waterfront condominiums so that they can be closer to where they work.
But no one in Toronto is talking about the flood plains,
since elected officials apparently consider the issue resolved. Based on a plan developed in 2007, the
federal and provincial governments are investing $1.185 billion to reconstruct the mouth of the Don River so that the water safely flows into Lake Ontario.
However, the waterfront area still remains a flood plain, and is still affected by storm surges associated with climate change.
Building on flood plains has serious consequences, including future
uninsurable buildings as insurance companies anticipate they won’t be able to afford the payouts. A single major flood causes a great deal of damage and requires insurance companies to pay all at once. With a higher frequency of catastrophic floods and the corresponding required payouts, the pool of insurance premiums collected to cover the losses dries up,
and insurance companies face bankruptcy.
Before that happens and buildings are left derelict, people and property are endangered. We recently saw
life-threatening flooding of buildings in Toronto, and there are limited rescue personnel
to address all of the issues at the same time when mass floods happen.
Simultaneously, damage to personal property can be overwhelming — for example, to cars and contents within condominium lockers in underground parking garages. In Toronto, we have also seen
streetcars submerged in water recently with people trapped inside.
Fixing the damage therefore adds costs to public transit. Water quality and disease concerns are also heightened as storm
sewage systems cannot handle increasing rainfall volumes. Over the longer term,
repeated flooding also weakens building foundations.
Hard to manage water levels
On a broader scale in the Great Lakes region, the ability
to adapt to changing conditions is reduced. That’s because the ability of water officials to manage water levels is much more difficult when condominiums and other housing is built on flood plains.
For example, water flows are somewhat controlled in the
Lake Ontario and St. Lawrence River watersheds through an international agreement called Plan 2014. If buildings are in the path of water flow, this complicates and limits the range of adjustment options.
We know now what we’re confronting. Let’s learn from past mistakes. In the best interests of homeowners, the public and climate adaptation, what’s left of Toronto’s waterfront should be public parks, not condominiums billed as “workforce housing.”
Meanwhile, new Toronto lakefront condominium developments
are proceeding in the Quayside and Portlands neighbourhoods, near the Islands, on
flood plains historically contaminated by heavy metals, oil and coal.
“Workforce housing” is a required part of the plan.
Will Flessig, former Waterfront Toronto CEO, says that middle-income professionals are expected to settle in the waterfront condominiums so that they can be closer to where they work.
But no one in Toronto is talking about the flood plains,
since elected officials apparently consider the issue resolved. Based on a plan developed in 2007, the
federal and provincial governments are investing $1.185 billion to reconstruct the mouth of the Don River so that the water safely flows into Lake Ontario.
However, the waterfront area still remains a flood plain, and is still affected by storm surges associated with climate change.
Building on flood plains has serious consequences, including future
uninsurable buildings as insurance companies anticipate they won’t be able to afford the payouts. A single major flood causes a great deal of damage and requires insurance companies to pay all at once. With a higher frequency of catastrophic floods and the corresponding required payouts, the pool of insurance premiums collected to cover the losses dries up,
and insurance companies face bankruptcy.
Before that happens and buildings are left derelict, people and property are endangered. We recently saw
life-threatening flooding of buildings in Toronto, and there are limited rescue personnel
to address all of the issues at the same time when mass floods happen.
Simultaneously, damage to personal property can be overwhelming — for example, to cars and contents within condominium lockers in underground parking garages. In Toronto, we have also seen
streetcars submerged in water recently with people trapped inside.
Fixing the damage therefore adds costs to public transit. Water quality and disease concerns are also heightened as storm
sewage systems cannot handle increasing rainfall volumes. Over the longer term,
repeated flooding also weakens building foundations.
Hard to manage water levels
On a broader scale in the Great Lakes region, the ability
to adapt to changing conditions is reduced. That’s because the ability of water officials to manage water levels is much more difficult when condominiums and other housing is built on flood plains.
For example, water flows are somewhat controlled in the
Lake Ontario and St. Lawrence River watersheds through an international agreement called Plan 2014. If buildings are in the path of water flow, this complicates and limits the range of adjustment options.
We know now what we’re confronting. Let’s learn from past mistakes. In the best interests of homeowners, the public and climate adaptation, what’s left of Toronto’s waterfront should be public parks, not condominiums billed as “workforce housing.”
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