Israel at war
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You're moving the goalposts. Your original statement was the the US promised not send bombs and yet they still are sending the 500 pound bombs. I pointed out that the US was only talking about the 2,000 pound bombs. The US is doing what they said and now you are trying to come up with alternative facts.
Admit that your original post was deceptively inaccurate before you try a completely different argument. Quibbling about tonnage is totally relevant because the tonnage was central to what Blinken said the US would do.
The folly was Hamas', thinking that killing 1,200 Israeli citizens would help their cause. The folly is thinking that the world will stop Israel's mission. The folly was thinking that even countries like Egypt and Jordan don't want Hamas eradicated. They are allowing Israel to complete the job.
The UN was specifically talking about the hostages taken on Oct.7 and Israel took none on that date. It was a Pearl Harbor like sneak attack by Hamas. Any persons that Israel may have subsequently taken, were members of Hamas. As such they are considered prisoners of war, POW, soldiers from the other side, not civilian hostages. That is a war crime while taking POWs is not.
You have proven that there is no reason to believe anything you say. You even tried to pass off the lie that the Lancet itself, officially declared that "Zionists have killed 186,000 Gazans". You have yet to find a quote where that publication makes that unequivocal statement, let alone something even close.
Why should anybody believe your polls? You have ruined your own credibility.
I'll correct my post.Bingo. Glad you finally agree its a war not a genocide
Its a genocide.
You are biased and support genocide, your views are worthless.
The UN says its genocide, that is the correct term.
The Lancet piece stands.
Because I was talking about how DoFo is driving Ontario nurses out of the province. Take a poll of nurses in school and tell me I'm wrong. Its like noting that most international students were South Asian, its pointing out the demographics, Shazi.
Blame is being applied at the UN, the ICC and ICJ, Shazi. Nobody on this planet thinks that anybody other Israel is doing the genocide in Gaza.
Its a given, not debatable. Its a fact.
Deal with it.
You are a genocide loving zionist.
That is the truth.
4 more unfounded accusations of lying.
The Shack counter:
45 accusations of lying, 45 intentional misquotes (straw man arguments) - 0 proof
Are you drunk?
The UN demanded both sides ceasefire.
The UN also says the occupation is illegal, the blockade was illegal, Israel is apartheid and Israel is committing genocide.
And every time you quote the UN, you get these posts or the latest showing what you must also agree with if you are using the UN as a source.
Another 4 accusations of lying.
shack counter:
49 accusations of lying, 45 intentional misquotes (straw man arguments) - 0 proof
Here's the poll.
View of Jews and Israel 2024: A Survey of Canadian Attitudes and Jewish Perceptions
The Association for Canadian Jewish Studies encourages research on the Canadian Jewish experience through the disciplines of political science, sociology, economics, geography, history, demography, education, religion, linguistics, literature, architecture, performing and fine arts, among others.
cjs.journals.yorku.ca
Same old, same old, Geno. And that is why you are known as Geno.
UN says things via resolutions like they did with #1761 in 1962 on S. African genocide. Yet the fact is that the UN has posted nothing of the kind regarding Israel and of them committing either apartheid or genocide. You just can't get around that fact, can you Geno. Then again, using facts has never been your strong suit.
How so? They published no piece. They posted a letter to the editor and that is all. The Lancet does peer review scientific studies. They did not review this opinion piece because it is not worthy of their time. The piece is not scientific, it is politically motivated and the authors have no qualifications regarding counting deaths in a war zone. They took Hamas' highly inflated numbers and then laughingly quadrupled them.
You have yet to find and quote from the authors saying that it is Israel who did the killing, whatever the true numbers may be. You claiming that the opinion piece says Israel killed them all, is a bald-faced lie.
That is all well and good, but why didn't you just stop at saying that many nurses quit? What difference does it matter where the new ones are from. Why did you feel compelled to tell us that it was "Filipinos" who are replacing them. It is not germane to your point about Ford. Singling out their ethnicity as a means of complaining about Ford suggests they are inferior but most definitely is a racist comment. You fucked up Geno.
Once again Geno, there have been no resolutions, and not a single physical action taken by a single nation to stop Israel's goal of eradicating Hamas. No nation even wants to take in any Pali refugees. You have no facts to back you up. You have lies and doctored videos and accusations. You keep shooting blanks.
The world's lack of actions speaks volumes louder than your anti-Semitic epithets. At this point you are foaming at the mouth.
I have more credibility on the board than you. Do you dispute that?
The UN works through resolutions and reports, Shazi.
The UN has found Israel to apartheid, the occupation and blockade illegal and Israel to be committing genocide.
Those are the facts.
Biden is blocking UNSC resolutions, that's the only turf you've got left.
If you want to dispute this then you need to argue for a ceasefire and a chance to count the dead.
But you're more interested in making more bodies to count.
The Lancet is trustworthy, you are an ancient, genocidal zionist.
Israel has likely killed 186,000 or more according to the Lancet and you are here calling for more killings.
Yes, you're right, it could have been North Korea.
What an incredibly idiotic line of argument, Shazi.
You're lying, Shazi.
Only Biden is blocking the UN, only one person is allowing the genocide to continue.
The rest of the world is against the zionist genocide.
Smirking about being able to continue the genocide only makes you look more like a nazi, Shazi.
Are you asking if there are more ancient racial supremacists in the politics forum than those opposed to genocide?
Who cares, in Canada 49% say Israel is committing genocide.
You are part of a tiny and ugly minority, Shazi.
Israel is intentionally using weapons designed for maximum injury on children.
nazis
nazis
Shazi, I think someone has a message for you.
Another ICJ ruling coming up.
Those courts move so slowly.
Those courts move so slowly.
Those are facts only in your hateful mind. History shows that this is how the UN works. From Wiki:
In 1962, the United Nations General Assembly passed a resolution calling on all member states to impose a trade boycott against South Africa. In 1963, the UN Security Council called for a partial arms ban against South Africa, but this was not mandatory under Chapter VII of the UN Charter.
In November 1962, the United Nations General Assembly passed Resolution 1761, a non-binding resolution establishing the United Nations Special Committee against Apartheid and called for imposing economic and other sanctions on South Africa. All Western nations refused to join the committee as members. This boycott of a committee, the first such boycott, happened because it was created by the same General Assembly resolution that called for economic and other sanctions on South Africa, which at the time the West strongly opposed.
None of this has happened, Geno. You need resolutions. Do you want to dispute these historical facts?
You now admit that the body count is fictitious, The dead have not yet been counted.
Once again you cannot refute the points I made to back up my claims:
The Lancet did not review that opinion piece.
Neither the Lancet or the authors have assigned blame to Israel.
You cannot produce a sentence or phrase or passage that from that letter to the editor that says so. You lie when claiming that they say Israel is responsible. It is not anywhere to be found.
Instead, all you can do, Geno is attack me with ageist, racist ad hominems. You have ZERO facts and are desperate and it shows in the tone of your posts.
It is idiotic for you, Geno, to attempt to pretend that Hamas is not mostly to blame. They are conducting incestuous genocide. The world can see how they initiated the war, did nothing to protect Gazans, put them in harms way, built tunnels and weapons caches under and around the civilians, used them as human shields and martyrs. Tell us how Hamas is not culpable by their actions?
But, I do agree with you that it was not N. Korea.
Why is race so important to you? It's only important to a racist. You keep talking about Filipinos. They have nothing to do with Ford's policies.
If I'm lying, show me the resolutions. Otherwise, you are the one lying. I stand by my statement.
The rules of the UN were followed and ultimately by due process the UN has decided not to pass any resolutions. Are you against following the rules? We must abide by what the UN says.
Yet not one country is helping the plight of the Gazans. Why are Jordan nor Egypt even offering to take in any hostages. Actions, or lack thereof speak louder than your claims. The world does not support the terrorist cause of Hamas. They are letting Israel enter Gaza City next. Your claim is false. Hamas are the pariahs, not Israel.
The only smirking I do is because of how you are made to look foolish and how easy it is to expose your lies and hypocrisies. I am laughing at YOU, Geno, not the deaths.
No. I'm asking if you think that you have more credibility on TERB than I. Why can you never answer directly? Instead you insult the rest of the board and accuse them of supporting genocide. That's why you are known as Geno.
If we are an ugly minority, with which I disagree (well, we may be ugly facially), you should have no problem conducting a poll to see if anybody has more credibility than you. Between me or you? Or between you and basketcase? Show the strength of your conviction, Geno, of how noble you are. Conduct a comparative poll.
Important rejection of POS Nation propaganda
118 Nations and all Security Council members vote to support UNRWA
118 Nations and all Security Council members vote to support UNRWA
Are you obtuse or have aphasia. This fallacious argument of yours has been debunked several times already.
Unconditional:
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not subject to any conditions.
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Unconditional, means that Hamas was ordered to return the hostages and what Israel does or doesn't do is of no concern to the UN in terms of their order to Hamas.
You should stop making yourself look like you are incapable of understanding English.
