Project 2025

[shack]

It's ok, we've been reassured repeatedly that Trump is too incompetent to accomplish any of it, so no one needs to worry about it.

Just like we were told not to criticize 2020 loser trump because after he lost, he was irrelevant.

 

[kherg007]

It will be a miracle if she gets close to her 2016 result. ( 1.07% )
She is more likely to end up somewhere in the normal 0.3% range the Greens get.



With a massive push of everyone trying to make her the anti-Israel candidate she might coordinate everyone who wants to cast a vote that way and who knows, maybe she gets results like Perot did - Zero electoral college delegates.
But that would absolutely make people realize the Anti-Israel vote was significant and might even cause the policy shift you say you want to see.

Being like Ralph Nader though, why would you pitch that since he is remembered as "the guy that made Bush president even though people wanted Al Gore, thus being a massive reason for the Afghanistan and Iraq wars"?
I thought you completely rejected this characterization of what you were doing?



Yes.
And part of convincing them otherwise is pointing out that casting a vote that makes things you want to see happen less likely is counter productive.

I do like how dishonest that tweet is, though, acting as if "Did not vote" would all vote Green.
It's a clever piece of bullshit.

Jill seeing is also on Putin's payroll. She was feted by him multiple times, including a dinner where Mike Flynn was there too.
Fuck her. Big time. And Cornell West too. USA democracy is on the line.
As Lynn Cheney said, the country can survive bad policy, but it cannot survive a president who torches the constitution.

 

[Valcazar]

Just like we were told not to criticize 2020 loser trump because after he lost, he was irrelevant.

Indeed.

Jill seeing is also on Putin's payroll. She was feted by him multiple times, including a dinner where Mike Flynn was there too.

One might be tempted to look at her other foreign policy positions.
But, as we have seen in earlier discussions, the only thing anyone should care about is that Biden loses.

Fuck her. Big time. And Cornell West too. USA democracy is on the line.
As Lynn Cheney said, the country can survive bad policy, but it cannot survive a president who torches the constitution.

Nope.
Clearly not.

No one should worry about any of that at all, because Biden is Genocide Joe and therefore him being defeated is the only important thing anyone of moral conscience should concern themselves with.
Every other factor ever pales in comparison and Biden losing and Trump winning will make America completely change its mind about Israel (the only important thing anyone on the planet should concern themselves about) in 4 years and then everything will be fixed.

See!
It's all very rational.

 

[basketcase]

Fixed your post for more accurate representation of my views.
Its amazing how often you get them wrong.
Intentionally.

I don't want rump in power, Biden is better generally but can no longer be supported because of his aiding of the genocide.

Faked my post in your typical pathetic loser way just to bring your Jew hatred into yet another thread.

 

[basketcase]

No, I want Jill Stein in power.
If I could vote in the US, I'd vote for her.

Jill thinks Putin was justified in invading Ukraine and she has stated she wants the US out of NATO.

But she is against supporting Israel so you're willing to endorse anything else she say.

 

[Frankfooter]

No one should worry about any of that at all, because Biden is Genocide Joe and therefore him being defeated is the only important thing anyone of moral conscience should concern themselves with.
Every other factor ever pales in comparison and Biden losing and Trump winning will make America completely change its mind about Israel (the only important thing anyone on the planet should concern themselves about) in 4 years and then everything will be fixed.

See!
It's all very rational.

You argue that voting to help the hitler of this century aid his genocide is the most rational position?

 

[kherg007]

It astounds me to see some interviews with the Arab community in Michigan going anti Biden and pro Trump, when Trump will be as bad if not worse in his support for Netanyahu and for Trumps support for a new Muslim ban.
It's like "you're fucking over my people so bad that we'll punish you by voting for a guy who will fuck over my people twice as bad as you."
I'm hoping they're just making a point (and a reasonable one for sure).

 

[basketcase]

You argue that voting to help the hitler of this century aid his genocide is the most rational position?

Trumps people are the ones talking about nuking Gaza. Biden on the other hand go a ceasefire motion passed at the UNSC.

 

[Frankfooter]

Trumps people are the ones talking about nuking Gaza. Biden on the other hand go a ceasefire motion passed at the UNSC.

Biden is worse, he is pretending to call for peace while aiding and enabling genocide.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1805216127712137651

 

[Valcazar]

You argue that voting to help the hitler of this century aid his genocide is the most rational position?

LOL - Oh my, we have gone to the pearl-clutching and fainting couch.

 

[Valcazar]

It astounds me to see some interviews with the Arab community in Michigan going anti Biden and pro Trump, when Trump will be as bad if not worse in his support for Netanyahu and for Trumps support for a new Muslim ban.
It's like "you're fucking over my people so bad that we'll punish you by voting for a guy who will fuck over my people twice as bad as you."
I'm hoping they're just making a point (and a reasonable one for sure).

Some are just making a point.
Some are serious.
Some will vote third party.

 

[Frankfooter]

LOL - Oh my, we have gone to the pearl-clutching and fainting couch.

Not at all, valcazar.

Its just clear from this discussion that there is no limit towards what you will support in order to get the person you want in power. I find that distressing from someone who might be educating youth might be telling them that their inferior understanding of history and politics is naive and that supporting genocide is acceptable and necessary.

While you occasionally tut tut 'Bibi' you also aren't invested in doing the due diligence in understanding what is going on in Gaza, from the destructions of the health care system that actually keeps tally of the dead to the ongoing mass starvation and disease setting in. Or you have done your due diligence and while you admit its genocide you are actually quietly supporting it.

Netanyahu is, eventually, going to be charged with genocide along with the country at the ICJ. Hitler comparisons are now on point, Netanyahu will join a small rank of leaders charged with the most serious crime known to humans. You know this and mocked it.

 

[shack]

Not at all, valcazar.

Its just clear from this discussion that there is no limit towards what you will support in order to get the person you want in power.

Or you have done your due diligence and while you admit its genocide you are actually quietly supporting it.

You know this and mocked it.

Keep confessing. Geno.

 

[Frankfooter]

Keep confessing. Geno.

Confessing to what, gvir?

Starvation really is zionist policy.
Israeli minister orders food reduction for Palestinian prisoners

Israel’s National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir says he has ordered a further reduction in the amount of food offered to Palestinian prisoners in Israeli jails, advancing a policy that rights groups have compared to forced starvation.
After October 7, Ben-Gvir closed prison canteens and kitchens, leaving Palestinian detainees entirely reliant on the prisons themselves for food.
In a letter on Wednesday, however, he said he gave further instructions to reduce the amount of food given to the prisoners. He said the move was aimed at deterring attacks from fighters, but he did not explain how the two could be related.
The Association for Civil Rights in Israel has challenged the food restrictions in court, arguing they amount to a policy of starvation.
Citing prisoner testimony, the rights group says the food provided is insufficient and unhealthy and has led to “severe damage to [prisoners’] health and dignity”. It says the prisoners suffer from “constant hunger, extreme weight loss [and] forced fasting” and are held in “veritable torture conditions”.
Since the start of the war, the number of Palestinian prisoners has ballooned, as Israel carried out large-scale raids in the Gaza Strip and the occupied West Bank. The total number of Palestinians held by Israel has climbed to about 9,000 since October 7.

 

[basketcase]

Biden is worse, he is pretending to call for peace while aiding and enabling genocide.
...

Only a true zealot would consider a moderate who got a ceasefire approved at the UN to be worse than a party threatening o nuke Gaza.

 

[basketcase]

Confessing to what, gvir?
...

But I'm sure you'll say Hamas is keeping Israeli hostages in luxury (even though your UN, ICC, and ICJ demanded their release half a year ago.

 

[Frankfooter]

Only a true zealot would consider a moderate who got a ceasefire approved at the UN to be worse than a party threatening o nuke Gaza.

What ceasefire?
Genocide Joe has been aiding Israel all along.

But I'm sure you'll say Hamas is keeping Israeli hostages in luxury (even though your UN, ICC, and ICJ demanded their release half a year ago.

Israel is holding about 8000 hostages as well, none of those have been released.
That is, those who survive torture like raping them with hot metal rods up the ass until they die.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1798799983447048303

Then there are these hostages.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1806598160841584965

 

[basketcase]

What ceasefire?
...

The one Biden pushed, got Israel to accept, and get approved by the UNSC. I know Hamas rejected it but I know you want to ignore Hamas' agency.

BTW. At the debate, your guy Trump said he wants Israel to "finish the job".

 

[Frankfooter]

The one Biden pushed, got Israel to accept, and get approved by the UNSC. I know Hamas rejected it but I know you want to ignore Hamas' agency.

BTW. At the debate, your guy Trump said he wants Israel to "finish the job".

Hamas didn't reject it, Netanyahu did.
Netanyahu says he won’t agree to a deal that ends the war in Gaza, testing the latest truce proposal

Trump is Netanyahu's choice, he's been working hard to screw up Biden's reelection chances. You know that.
Trump also has ties to white supremacists and is a closet antisemite, you also know that.
Zionists are tied to white supremacists now.

As for the UN, since you clearly think they are correct.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1807299909684494740

 

[basketcase]

Hamas didn't reject it...

You're insane.

Hamas responds to Gaza cease-fire plan seeking some changes. US says it's 'evaluating' the reply

Hamas says it has given Qatari and Egyptian mediators its reply to the U.S.-backed proposal for a cease-fire in Gaza, seeking some “amendments” on the deal.

apnews.com

The UNSC motion said "without condition" and Hamas' response was to add more conditions.