Will Biden step down?

Zoot Allures

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And hair and make up just had a bad night. Otherwise he was fine. Except for the "being a living corpse" bit. As Nicholas Kristoff pointed out, all over America people are having the discussion with their aged parents about taking away the car keys. It's not just one bad night he is having.

Still, if you refuse to listen to Trumps lies Biden has done a good job by most honest measures
and Trump was a horrible President. I would think that is because Biden defers to the experts and Trump does not
 
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Biden was awesome today. First, he had his teleprompters. Second, the audience could have energized him. Last and foremost, elderly people have good days and bad days. Some younger members might not have had daily experience with elderly relatives. The effects of ageing are not linear from one day to the next. It's not even linear one hour to the next. It's very sad to see it and watch it before your very eyes.
 
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Still, if you refuse to listen to Trumps lies Biden has done a good job by most honest measures
and Trump was a horrible President
You are watching too much U.S. liberal media and being spoonfed their POV. I'm not going to bother explaining because you should be asking someone here to explain why Americans are not universally happy with the Biden Administration.

I presume if you haven't asked that question you are not asking the big Canadian question.........why isn't Trudeau more popular?
 

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She was never elected as VP, she was appointed as the VP candidate on the Biden ticket and was thus elected when he was elected.
Biden had committed to choose a Black woman as his running mate. That promise was part of how he won the nomination; if he didn’t keep it he would have had a major problem with his base.

I don’t recall who else was being considered at the time as his running mate but Kamala seemed like a strong choice at the time.

I think Kamala gets an unreasonable amount of hate from the public and I’ve never understood quite why…but I never understood why Hillary got so much hate either and look what happened to her.
 

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Biden was awesome today. First, he had his teleprompters. Second, the audience could have energized him. Last and foremost, elderly people have good days and bad days. Some younger members might not have had daily experience with elderly relatives. The effects of ageing are not linear from one day to the next. It's not even linear one hour to the next. It's very sad to see it and watch it before your very eyes.
Gramps was having a good day. Chillax. Good to go until age 86.
 

WyattEarp

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She was never elected as VP, she was appointed as the VP candidate on the Biden ticket and was thus elected when he was elected.
In our system, the Vice President is viewed as being elected into that position along with the President. It might seem to not make sense, but that's kind of the legal interpretation of the VP position.
 

Zoot Allures

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You are watching too much U.S. liberal media and being spoonfed their POV. I'm not going to bother explaining because you should be asking someone here to explain why Americans are not universally happy with the Biden Administration.

I presume if you haven't asked that question you are not asking the big Canadian question.........why isn't Trudeau more popular?
Americans let conservative talk show hosts and fox news tell them what to think . It is obvious Trump is a liar who says moronic things

Trudeau is not a great leader. Like most countries the least of us lead the best of us in most positions of power
 
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WyattEarp

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I actually agree with this. Kamala should run. She is the VP after all. If they pick Newsome to replace Biden, that is just a huge snub to the one that has already been VP.
I don't agree. If Biden steps down, he should release his delegates and the Dems should have an open convention. The risk is that it divides the party into factions, but the Dems would nominate the strongest candidate.
 

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Americans let conservative talk show hosts and fox news tell them what to think . It is obvious Trump is a liar who says moronic things

Trudeau is not a great leader. Like most countries the least of us lead the best of us in most positions of power
I'm sorry that's always an uninformed or maybe a wishful fallback. The Fox News audience peaks at about 3 million and nighttime averages are lower. The total Presidential vote in 2020 was 155 million.

I'm guessing that if someone tunes into Fox News they pretty much already have their minds made up.
 

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In our system, the Vice President is viewed as being elected into that position along with the President. It might seem to not make sense, but that's kind of the legal interpretation of the VP position.
"viewed" and "actual" aren't synonymous. I'm sorry if that's how American's view it, as I don't believe an American has ever voted for a VP.
 

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I'm sorry that's always an uninformed or maybe a wishful fallback. The Fox News audience peaks at about 3 million and nighttime averages are lower. The total Presidential vote in 2020 was 155 million.

I'm guessing that if someone tunes into Fox News they pretty much already have their minds made up.

Rush Limbaugh got Trump into the White House along with the evangelists. They all wrap themselves in the Flag .

The former was a liar and the latter are idiots and the conservative politicians are cowards afraid Trump
will destroy them and they are right
 
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Uh huh. So what happens if Biden dies in office before the election? Does she get his job until November, and if so, will that be a coup?
Yes, she gets the job to November. Is it a coup? No! By the US Constitution, it's the same as every other VP. Ford being the most recent (though not due to a death), Johnson (JFK assassination), Truman, Coolridge, Roosevelt (Teddy), etc...
 

WyattEarp

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So he didn't have the benefit of a great team. The President is an aggregate of a great team. Sell me on Trump's team.
When it became obvious that Trump would have no problem winning the Republican nomination this time, many prominent Republicans joined his team. More so then when he won the Presidency in 2016. Progressives are very concerned that a Trump Administration will undo many of the Biden Administration's policies. So much so that it is well-noted that the Biden Administration is trying to circumvent the change in policies that comes with subsequent administrations.

I'm fine with a team of Republicans running the show. I'm also fine with Trump banging heads and firing people. I thought Trump's attack last night that Biden never fires anybody is an interesting point. We all should all be concerned with unelected career bureaucrats coming to Washington with their own personal agenda.

It's not a matter of this Presidential team is better than this other Presidential team. It's about who you want setting policy.
 

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Biden was awesome today. First, he had his teleprompters. Second, the audience could have energized him. Last and foremost, elderly people have good days and bad days. Some younger members might not have had daily experience with elderly relatives. The effects of ageing are not linear from one day to the next. It's not even linear one hour to the next. It's very sad to see it and watch it before your very eyes.
And sharks energize Trump...
 

WyattEarp

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Rush Limbaugh got Trump into the White House along with the evangelists. They both wrap themselves in the Flag .

The former was a liar and the latter are idiots and the conservative politicians are cowards afraid Trump
will destroy them and they are right
Evangelists don't support Democrats. It doesn't matter who the Republicans run.

And if Evangelists tuned into Rush or Fox News, they weren't there to consider who to support in the election. That's the point.
 
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Sorry, but do you think that Biden is destroying democracy? If so, how?
No, but arguing one is saving democracy is a form of demagoguery. That's not to say Trump doesn't practice demagoguery.
 

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When it became obvious that Trump would have no problem winning the Republican nomination this time, many prominent Republicans joined his team. More so then when he won the Presidency in 2016. Progressives are very concerned that a Trump Administration will undo many of the Biden Administration's policies. So much so that it is well-noted that the Biden Administration is trying to circumvent the change in policies that comes with subsequent administrations.

I'm fine with a team of Republicans running the show. I'm also fine with Trump banging heads and firing people. I thought Trump's attack last night that Biden never fires anybody is an interesting point. We all should all be concerned with unelected career bureaucrats coming to Washington with their own personal agenda.

It's not a matter of this Presidential team is better than this other Presidential team. It's about who you want setting policy.
Sell me on a team that won't overthrow democracy...

When it became obvious that Trump would have no problem winning the Republican nomination this time, many prominent Republicans joined his team. More so then when he won the Presidency in 2016. Progressives are very concerned that a Trump Administration will undo many of the Biden Administration's policies. So much so that it is well-noted that the Biden Administration is trying to circumvent the change in policies that comes with subsequent administrations.

I'm fine with a team of Republicans running the show. I'm also fine with Trump banging heads and firing people. I thought Trump's attack last night that Biden never fires anybody is an interesting point. We all should all be concerned with unelected career bureaucrats coming to Washington with their own personal agenda.

It's not a matter of this Presidential team is better than this other Presidential team. It's about who you want setting policy.
Yet many Republicans left his team, never to return, during his term in office.

David Shulkin
H.R. McMaster
Rex Tillerson
John McEntee
Gary Cohn
Hope Hicks
Rob Porter
Omarosa Manigault-Newman

Dina Powell
Tom Price

Sebastian Gorka
Steve Bannon - Isn't he in jail now?
Anthony Scaramucci
Reince Priebus
Sean Spicer
Mike Dubke
James Comey
Mike Flynn
Sally Yates

Other notables:

  • Steven Goldstein: Under Secretary of State for Public Diplomacy and Public Affairs
  • Josh Raffel: Deputy communications director
  • Rick Dearborn: deputy chief of staff
  • George Sifakis: director, Office of Public Liaison
  • Ezra Cohen-Watnick: senior director for intelligence programs, National Security Council
  • Michael Short: senior press assistant
  • Walter Shaub: director, Office of Government Ethics
  • Vivek Murthy: surgeon general
  • Angella Reid: chief usher, White House
  • Katie Walsh: deputy chief of staff
  • Preet Bharara: U.S. attorney, Southern District of New York


ABC News' John Parkinson, Justin Fishel, Katherine Faulders, John Santu


 

WyattEarp

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Sell me on a team that won't overthrow democracy...
American Democracy to the American people (and the Canadians who watch too much U.S. cable news):

The reports of my (pending) death are greatly exaggerated.
 
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