This election was obviously rigged! I’m gonna drive down to Ottawa tomorrow and storm the capital!!! I’m gonna fight like hell for my country! Who’s with me?
Conservatives win St Paul's byelection
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I'm with you! I am grabbing my horns and goat leather chaps as I post this right now.
You have to admit, the Liberals are masters of demonizing opposing parties and their supporters just blindly go along with their twisted schemes.
Imagine...they convinced their supporters that paying a carbon tax would actually make them richer. That's f*cking brilliant!
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The next federal election will be a goodbye election...does that count?
This pic sums up Liberal government. I wonder if he still gets to sleep in front of her office.
I wouldn't read TOO much into that.
A lot may have depended on how much the PPC people thought knocking off the Libs (or even scaring them) was worth it.
This is still First Past the Post - people are going to be voting strategically based on what they think their shot is.
At the same time, this was a by-election with people knowing it won't change the make up of government - no chance it brings down the government directly.
So they may have just been voting more honestly. (Greens or NDP who really wanted the Cons not to win could have voted Lib if they thought they needed to save the seat.)
It did feel like a big "message vote" overall though, with polls showing it would be tight and talk that a loss would mean Trudeau stepped down.
Who knows how many Liberals voted Conservative for this election just hoping it would mean Justin would go before 2025.
The only real message I think you can take from this is the Liberals are in BIG trouble and the Cons are where most of the "I'm pissed at Justin and/or the Liberals" votes are going.
That feels like whistling past a graveyard.
A swing that big with a turn out that large is a snapshot of where the electorate is at (at least in that region).
Is it some kind of iron-clad prediction of election results next year?
No.
But it isn't nothing.
You can't actually say that from these results.
You don't know who shifted where without exit polling.
The idea that all the "leftier than Lib" party supporters voted Conservative is a bit of a stretch without further evidence.
Trudeau should resign, not because he is bad, but because the fake internet hyperbole is too much to overcome. People just hate him... because his face is too symmetrical or something. So a rebranding is in order with a new face at the helm. Is Bob Rae still young enough? He was unfairly tarnished in the 80's by both sides for choosing the correct middle path. He is brilliant and can wax poetically without notes.
If they are it wouldn't be anything we haven't seen in the past with leaders from all parties. 8 to 10 years is a good run for a party leader, especially if they are PM.
Is this for real?? The gall.This pic sums up Liberal government. I wonder if he still gets to sleep in front of her office.
That's the thing.
People talk about how in Canada we are now seeing political divisions akin to US politics like we've never seen before. And there is truth in that. But when you look at it, it starts with Justin Trudeau .
In all my life, which is slipping more and more into decrepitude with each passing week, I've never seen such a divisive Prime Minister. He constantly insults and belittles ordinary Canadians who simply don't agree with him. We constantly get referred to as "racists", "misogynists", "islamophobes", "cruel", "small minded", "hateful", "homophobes", you name it. And for some, he suspends their constitutional rights, freezes their bank accounts, threatens to use the government to take away their children and holds them without bail for months.
These aren't his political rivals, these are ordinary Canadians he is constantly labeling as such. Just look at the rhetoric he and Freeland were using in the run-up to the by-election.
I can not think of a previous Prime Minister who ever behaved in such a reprehensible way in the past. Seriously. I don't recall Chretien, or Mulroney or PET ever calling Canadian people racists or misogynists. 45 percent of the population never would have voted for the Liberals and to Justin that means they are all racists and misogynist and homophobic. It's sick.
He's just like Hilary Clinton who labeled half of Americans "deplorables". No Hilary, they are citizens of the United States and the fact that they were not going to vote for you doesn't make them a deplorable.
Same goes to Poilievre, don't ever make that mistake. Don't label citizens who choose not to vote for you as anything but people you simply have a political disagreement with. In closing, i recall the late great John McCain who actually came to the defense of Barack Obama during political rallies when things got carried away. Can't imagine Justin Trudeau ever being a gentleman like that. And for that he deserves to lose.
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The dilemma lies in identifying a successor who can surpass the previous leader's performance. When Mulroney stepped down, Campbell's leadership led to significant electoral setbacks for the party in subsequent elections. A notable instance is the victory of a Loblaw lobbyist in St. Paul, exemplifying how voters can be influenced by misinformation campaigns. Allegations blaming Justin for inflation and various other issues contribute to this narrative
Agreed. Probably more like a general shift to the right by all voters. NDP-ers voting Lib and some Lib voters going Tory.
James, no.
The KKKonvoy trolls were not "ordinary Canadians".
And no government is going to let trolls occupy a major city for 3 weeks and do nothing.
