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Israel at war

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Did Hamas value the lives of Palestinians? You should start there...what were they trying to achieve slaughtering 1200 israelis?
Yes, Hamas was responding to the 238 settler terrorist attacks on Palestinians in 2023 along with the storming of the Al Aqsa, on behalf of Palestinians.
As they did in 2021 as well, for similar reasons.

The only difference is that this time they got beyond the concentration camp because its likely Netanyahu allowed them so he could start a war.

 
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Frankfooter

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Is this your new nickname for me, Geno? How many bad ones have you abandoned so far? LOL.

Geno, I assume that you are trying to be hurtful towards me, which begs the question, if being a grandfather (which I am not) is insulting, why do you (or did you) hate your grandfather so much. Tell me that Geno. Every time you try to insult me with that word, you are insulting your own grandfather.

Regardless, Geno, none of your (lame) attempts to insult me changes the fact that you are a racist and you hate all Jews. Zionist or not.

I have stuck with this same nickname for this whole time and you're onto 4 or 5 so far.
This week I'm calling you grandpa for your ancient views on race and your total ineptitude with computers and this forum.
Next week? We'll see what you do.

 
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Lets see. One side's prisoners are taken for their actions and had their names, locations and status disclosed to multiple international organizations. The other side kidnapped people solely for being somewhere they could access and is refusing not only to allow access to the Red Cross but to even acknowledge who they have.
One side is anally raping prisoners to death with hot metal rods.

 
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Did the Jews start killing civilian germans? you seem to give Hamas excuse to kill civilians again...
No, rich, this is about whether you think Palestinians have basic human rights, including the right to use violent resistance against an illegal occupation.
Do you accept that they have this right?
 
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richaceg

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No, rich, this is about whether you think Palestinians have basic human rights, including the right to use violent resistance against an illegal occupation.
Do you accept that they have this right?
Palestinians have rights....we're not talking about palestinians...we're talking about the terrorists that hides behind them....why do you always shift the conversation to Palestinians? both palestinians and israeli civilians are victims of Hamas atrocities...
 

Frankfooter

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Palestinians have rights....we're not talking about palestinians...we're talking about the terrorists that hides behind them....why do you always shift the conversation to Palestinians? both palestinians and israeli civilians are victims of Hamas atrocities...
Hamas are Palestinians, rich.
You can't use that as an excuse to strip Palestinians of their right to self defence against an illegal occupation.
Do you think Palestinians have the right to self defence or not?
 

richaceg

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Hamas are Palestinians, rich.
You can't use that as an excuse to strip Palestinians of their right to self defence against an illegal occupation.
Do you think Palestinians have the right to self defence or not?
are palestinians hamas?
 

richaceg

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Do Palestinians, including Hamas, have human rights, rich?
Do Palestinians, including Hamas, have the right to self defence against an internationally recognized, illegal occupation of Palestine?
Are palestinians and Hamas the same? you can't seem to differentiate between them...I can...Hamas are terrorists...
 

Frankfooter

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Are palestinians and Hamas the same? you can't seem to differentiate between them...I can...Hamas are terrorists...
You are trying to argue that if you call someone a terrorist then you can declare they no longer are human and have human rights, aren't you?
That's a shitty tactic.

If you think that's true then any country can call anyone a terrorist and deprive them of human rights or kill them.
Is that what you want, or do you just want this applied only to Palestinians?


 
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richaceg

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You are trying to argue that if you call someone a terrorist then you can declare they no longer are human and have human rights, aren't you?
That's a shitty tactic.

If you think that's true then any country can call anyone a terrorist and deprive them of human rights or kill them.
Is that what you want, or do you just want this applied only to Palestinians?


Is this how your mind works? I type a simple sentence and your mind is running wild with different scenarios in your head...my question is quite simple...
You claim Hamas are Palestinians....so I ask you...are all palestinians Hamas? Somehow you can't answer that simple question...don't be mad...just make sense...
 

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Is this how your mind works? I type a simple sentence and your mind is running wild with different scenarios in your head...my question is quite simple...
You claim Hamas are Palestinians....so I ask you...are all palestinians Hamas? Somehow you can't answer that simple question...don't be mad...just make sense...
Its a stupid question that I didn't think you were taking seriously.
Not all Palestinians are Hamas just the way that not all Jews are zionists.

The question still stands, why do you think declaring someone a terrorist means they don't have human rights?
All that does is turn you into a terrorist yourself, where you declare that you can kill anyone, their family and their homes because you declared they are not human, just 'terrorists'. That makes you into a terrorist.

Either you accept everyone has human rights or you don't.
Which is it, rich?
 
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Hamas are Palestinians, rich.
You can't use that as an excuse to strip Palestinians of their right to self defence against an illegal occupation.
Do you think Palestinians have the right to self defence or not?
Israel has the rights to defend and retaliate as well.
 
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