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basketcase

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The ICC as well as the UN hold Gaza as occupied territory.
The ICC and the UN demanded Hamas immediately and unconditionally release their hostages but you disagree with them on that point.


p.s. Before the 7th, restrictions in Gaza were regularly being lessened, more Gazans were being allowed travel to and through Israel,, and more Gaza businesses were doing international business. Hamas didn't like that though so they chose to launch a war.
 

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I did not claim Gaza was occupied before October 7, so that is an outright lie, once again. I said Israel occupies much of the land that belongs to the Palestinians, along with the West Bank. The land that belongs to the Palestinians per the 1948 borders is much more than Gaza and the West Bank, but minimally, Gaza and the West Bank. Infact, to be more specific it is only Gaza that Israel does not occupy. They occupy everything else. This is a statement of fact which you tried to purposefully lie about. But as I have told you many times, I pay attention to what I say and stay razor focused on what I actually said, not anybody's purposefully misinterpretations.

And yes, we know Gaza and West Bank have two different leaders, courtesy of Bibi propping up Hamas, ferrying cash to them in an attempt to delegitimize Palestinian statehood.
You did make this idiotic claim in this thread and the Gaza one in the other thread.
Palestinians want equality. Not the land. What land is left to give back anyway?
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And no, the 1948 borders DON'T belong to Palestinians. They rejected that offer. The UN says that the '67 lines should be the basis for the creation of a Palestinian state but until they are willing to negotiate, it won't exist. It surely won't exist while leaders like Hamas (and you) reject the Jewish presence.

p.s. Do you guys think Arabs are too sub-human to make their own choices because you try to blame Israel for all their choices?
 

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Gaza has been occupied for many decades, basketcase.
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I love the way you guys keep making up new definitions for words. Israel occupied Gaza between 1967 and 2005. Since. For the last 19 years there hasn't been a single Israeli exerting rule over Gaza. Israel and Egypt control their own borders with Gaza and Israel maintains a blockade on Gaza imports by sea but that isn't occupying any more than Germany, Italy, and France are occupying Switzerland.
 

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Don't need to dig into your posting history because you obsessively repeat the same claims.

You've made it clear that you think all of Palestine is "occupied", that armed settlers in the West Bank are legitimate targets, that Hamas isn't to blame for Oct 7, and Hamas rockets and attacks on Israelis are war crimes of indiscriminate weapon use like Israeli tanks, 2,000 lb bombs and artillery shelling.

You also have made it clear that you do want both sides to accept any ceasefires that would allow significant amounts of aid to get to the people in need.
Yes, if you are going to slander people you do need to back it up.
If you don't, it just exposes you as another hasbara troll.

Meanwhile, your post was filled with errors on my views which have now been corrected.

So much lying to defend child killing, child starving and maiming children.

 
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Frankfooter

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Hamas is a terror group that launched an attack on civilians, raped women, and kept hostages despite the UN, ICC, and ICJ demanding their immediate and unconditional release. But you still love them.
Israel is a terrorist state that has been illegally occupying Palestine for 75 years, rules through apartheid and is now committing genocide despite upcoming charges by the ICJ, ICC and multiple calls for ceasefire from the UNSC.

Israel are also terrorists, but on a much larger scale.

You support terrorism.

 
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The ICC and the UN demanded Hamas immediately and unconditionally release their hostages but you disagree with them on that point.


p.s. Before the 7th, restrictions in Gaza were regularly being lessened, more Gazans were being allowed travel to and through Israel,, and more Gaza businesses were doing international business. Hamas didn't like that though so they chose to launch a war.
Hamas accepted the ceasefire, its Israel that is refusing.

 
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Frankfooter

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I love the way you guys keep making up new definitions for words. Israel occupied Gaza between 1967 and 2005. Since. For the last 19 years there hasn't been a single Israeli exerting rule over Gaza. Israel and Egypt control their own borders with Gaza and Israel maintains a blockade on Gaza imports by sea but that isn't occupying any more than Germany, Italy, and France are occupying Switzerland.
You are lying.

The UN says Gaza is occupied by Israel.
Stop lying.

The UN Rapporteur.
 
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shack

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Zionists are the new nazis, rich.
How many Zionists are in Israel?

And everyone who backs them is backing the worst evil the world has seen in decades.
Zionism is done, globally hated.
Your racism has you supporting starving 1 million children, bombing women and children and destroying Gaza.
This is what you support.
A raving lunatic. Thanks for your confessions.
 

shack

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Right here, genocide is #1 in the most evil.
Congrats on making #1.
Who makes these rankings?
What parameters are used?
Which year the closest between 1st and 2nd
How is it decided who's number 1 and and 2.
How many contestants are allowed in?
Is there a Hall of Fame/Infamy?
 

shack

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Zionists are the new nazis, rich.
And everyone who backs them is backing the worst evil the world has seen in decades.
Zionism is done, globally hated.

Your racism has you supporting starving 1 million children, bombing women and children and destroying Gaza.

This is what you support.

Take some valium.

Look at her Geno.
Do you think that Oct.7 was a smart move?
 

Klatuu

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Who makes these rankings?
What parameters are used?
Which year the closest between 1st and 2nd
How is it decided who's number 1 and and 2.
How many contestants are allowed in?
Is there a Hall of Fame/Infamy?
On the spectrum
 

Frankfooter

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Who makes these rankings?
What parameters are used?
Which year the closest between 1st and 2nd
How is it decided who's number 1 and and 2.
How many contestants are allowed in?
Is there a Hall of Fame/Infamy?
Yes, there is a hall of fame where you can vie for number 1 with your hero, Adolf.

 

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Take some valium.

Look at her Geno.
Do you think that Oct.7 was a smart move?
The US sent in a ceasefire demand at the UNSC.
Hamas agreed, Israel hasn't.

Do you think zionism was a smart move for the Jewish people?
Do you think killing the two state solution and implementing apartheid and genocide were smart moves, Gvir?
Do you think making zionists hated globally was smart?


 
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shack

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On the spectrum
Does this spectrum come to you in a vision.

Or is there some objective way to quantify this evil. If not, then it is just Geno's personal opinion that Israel is #1. Is that like ,"We've been voted Lackawana's favourite pizza for 4 years reunning." We know that he hates Israel/Zionists/Jews, so his opinion on who's most evil is not worthy of consideration.

But, he can still have the right to an opinion. But it is not fact.
 

shack

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Yes, there is a hall of fame where you can vie for number 1 with your hero, Adolf.
So you admit that you have no way to objectively prove that Israel is the most evil. You have no data. You can't answer any of the basic questions. You have no definition of the word evil.

Thanks for you biased opinion, Geno, that's all it is. You obviously weren't serious about your claim if you have no info to support your claim.

Geno, I'm asking, valid, simple questions and you come back with a Hitler reference?

You, Geno, keep proving me correct every time you avoid having a direct, respectful, stay on topic discussion. You avoid them at all cost, even though you claim to take them head on.
 

basketcase

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Hamas accepted the ceasefire, its Israel that is refusing.
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Your invented reality. The political people say they accept Israel's offer while actually sending a different proposal just like they did last time. More importantly, it's not up to the millionaires in Qatar but Sinwar and Dief in Gaza since they are the guys with the guns.

Hamas had submitted its response to Qatari mediators, proposing amendments to the Israeli proposal, including a timeline for a permanent ceasefire and complete Israeli withdrawal from Gaza, a source with knowledge of the talks told CNN earlier on Tuesday.

More importantly, Sinwar has been exposed for what we've known all along. he doesn't want peace, he wants civilian deaths.
 
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