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basketcase

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Are you dumb? Israel occupies the West Bank, and many areas of the land of present day Israel that belongs to the Palestinians, per the 1948 borders.
Are you too dumb to know Gaza and the West bank are different places?



Yes and that is because Israel has oppressed, ...
And speaking of dumb, you just claimed Palestinians want equal rights but when faced by the reality that Palestinians hate the idea no matter how much you think they need you to tell them what to do, you instantly pivot to new idiocy.
 

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Still a pathetic clown. Seems that your only retorts are to spam tweets and fake posts. I remember the olden days where you at least tried to state a rational opinion.
Remember the old days when you didn't have to lie about what people said to try to make an argument?
Remember when you used to claim Israel has the most moral army in the world and was the only democracy in the middle east?

Now all you do is defend apartheid and genocide by using straw man lies about what people say here.

Zionists are the new nazis, they are way, way more evil than Hamas.
And you are right there with them every day.


 

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Look at you trying to argue that Hamas only targets civilians and that Palestinians do not have the right to use force to resist against an illegal occupation.
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Only a moron would pretend I used the word "only" and only a hate filled zealot would try to justify Hamas terrorism as legitimate.
 

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I ask once again. Are you too dumb to pretend that Gaza and West Bank are not part of ONE national identity - aka Palestine?...
You keep changing questions because you are completely lost.

You claimed Gaza was occupied before oct. 7. It wasn't. The only Jews there were a couple of dead bodies that Hamas was holding hostage. Do you also claim that all of Europe is occupied because Turkiye occupies half of Cyprus?



And in case you haven't noticed, Gaza and West Bank Palestinians have two different sets of leaders who hate each other to the point of throwing each other off roofs.
 

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Its like you think they should just happily live with this.
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The difference between you and I is that I condemn the hate filled religious zealots who follow Kahane's teachings AND the the hate filled religious zealots who follow Yassin's.

Of course you've spent years saying it is racist to call Hamas terrorists because it might suggest all Palestinians are terrorists but here you are pretending Israel's lunatic fringe represent all Israelis.
 

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Remember the old days when you didn't have to lie about what people said to try to make an argument?
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Sorry pal but the internet keeps receipts.

And that doesn't change the fact the only tactics you use to fulfil your obsession is faking people's posts and spamming random tweets.
 

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I ask once again. Are you too dumb to pretend that Gaza and West Bank are not part of ONE national identity - aka Palestine? Palestine encompasses Gaza and the West Bank.

And dont pretend to "care" about what Palestinians want.

Palestinians want freedom and equality. The result of these polls are a direct result of Israeli occupation and oppression. Palestinians feel that there is no viable one or two state solution BECAUSE OF ISRAEL. Not because of Palestinian ideals.

So basically you beat them up, and when they say they dont want to have anything to do with you, you pretend that THEY are unreasonable, and it is because of them that you are unable to have peace. Essentially, victim blaming. This is the despicable, racist and idiotic Zionist narrative that anyone with half a brain calls out.
It’s the wife beater defense.
 

Klatuu

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You keep changing questions because you are completely lost.

You claimed Gaza was occupied before oct. 7. It wasn't. The only Jews there were a couple of dead bodies that Hamas was holding hostage. Do you also claim that all of Europe is occupied because Turkiye occupies half of Cyprus?



And in case you haven't noticed, Gaza and West Bank Palestinians have two different sets of leaders who hate each other to the point of throwing each other off roofs.
The ICC as well as the UN hold Gaza as occupied territory.
 

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Only a moron would pretend I used the word "only" and only a hate filled zealot would try to justify Hamas terrorism as legitimate.
Ok, so you now say Hamas, like Israel, kills militants and civilians.
Only Israel has killed between 150,000 and 400,000.

So how are they different?
Is it just that Israel kills and targets way, way more civilians?

There are 150,000 'missing' Palestinians in Gaza.
They should be assumed dead and buried in rubble.

 
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basketcase

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So show them.
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Don't need to dig into your posting history because you obsessively repeat the same claims.

You've made it clear that you think all of Israel is "occupied", that Jews in the West Bank are legitimate targets, that Hamas isn't to blame for Oct 7, and Hamas rockets and attacks on Israelis are "legitimate self defense".

You also have made it clear that you don't want Hamas to accept any ceasefires that would allow significant amounts of aid to get to the people in need.
 

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Ok, so you now say Hamas, ...
Hamas is a terror group that launched an attack on civilians, raped women, and kept hostages despite the UN, ICC, and ICJ demanding their immediate and unconditional release. But you still love them.
 

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The ICC as well as the UN hold Gaza as occupied territory.
The ICC and the UN demanded Hamas immediately and unconditionally release their hostages but you disagree with them on that point.


p.s. Before the 7th, restrictions in Gaza were regularly being lessened, more Gazans were being allowed travel to and through Israel,, and more Gaza businesses were doing international business. Hamas didn't like that though so they chose to launch a war.
 

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I did not claim Gaza was occupied before October 7, so that is an outright lie, once again. I said Israel occupies much of the land that belongs to the Palestinians, along with the West Bank. The land that belongs to the Palestinians per the 1948 borders is much more than Gaza and the West Bank, but minimally, Gaza and the West Bank. Infact, to be more specific it is only Gaza that Israel does not occupy. They occupy everything else. This is a statement of fact which you tried to purposefully lie about. But as I have told you many times, I pay attention to what I say and stay razor focused on what I actually said, not anybody's purposefully misinterpretations.

And yes, we know Gaza and West Bank have two different leaders, courtesy of Bibi propping up Hamas, ferrying cash to them in an attempt to delegitimize Palestinian statehood.
You did make this idiotic claim in this thread and the Gaza one in the other thread.
Palestinians want equality. Not the land. What land is left to give back anyway?
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And no, the 1948 borders DON'T belong to Palestinians. They rejected that offer. The UN says that the '67 lines should be the basis for the creation of a Palestinian state but until they are willing to negotiate, it won't exist. It surely won't exist while leaders like Hamas (and you) reject the Jewish presence.

p.s. Do you guys think Arabs are too sub-human to make their own choices because you try to blame Israel for all their choices?
 

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Gaza has been occupied for many decades, basketcase.
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I love the way you guys keep making up new definitions for words. Israel occupied Gaza between 1967 and 2005. Since. For the last 19 years there hasn't been a single Israeli exerting rule over Gaza. Israel and Egypt control their own borders with Gaza and Israel maintains a blockade on Gaza imports by sea but that isn't occupying any more than Germany, Italy, and France are occupying Switzerland.
 
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