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Frankfooter said:
Yes, there is a hall of fame where you can vie for number 1 with your hero, Adolf.
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So you admit that you have no way to objectively prove that Israel is the most evil. You have no data. You can't answer any of the basic questions. You have no definition of the word evil.

Thanks for you biased opinion, Geno, that's all it is. You obviously weren't serious about your claim if you have no info to support your claim.

Geno, I'm asking, valid, simple questions and you come back with a Hitler reference?

You, Geno, keep proving me correct every time you avoid having a direct, respectful, stay on topic discussion. You avoid them at all cost, even though you claim to take them head on.
 
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Frankfooter said:
Hamas accepted the ceasefire, its Israel that is refusing.
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Your invented reality. The political people say they accept Israel's offer while actually sending a different proposal just like they did last time. More importantly, it's not up to the millionaires in Qatar but Sinwar and Dief in Gaza since they are the guys with the guns.

Hamas had submitted its response to Qatari mediators, proposing amendments to the Israeli proposal, including a timeline for a permanent ceasefire and complete Israeli withdrawal from Gaza, a source with knowledge of the talks told CNN earlier on Tuesday.

More importantly, Sinwar has been exposed for what we've known all along. he doesn't want peace, he wants civilian deaths.
 
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So you admit that you have no way to objectively prove that Israel is the most evil. You have no data. You can't answer any of the basic questions. You have no definition of the word evil.

Thanks for you biased opinion, Geno, that's all it is. You obviously weren't serious about your claim if you have no info to support your claim.

Geno, I'm asking, valid, simple questions and you come back with a Hitler reference?

You, Geno, keep proving me correct every time you avoid having a direct, respectful, stay on topic discussion. You avoid them at all cost, even though you claim to take them head on.
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You want objective proof?
What country has killed the most civilians this century - Israel
What country has killed the most children - Israel
What country has killed the most UN workers - Israel
What country has killed the most journalists - Israel
What country has dropped the most bombs on civilians - Israel
What country is lead by a guy about to get ICC war crime charges - Israel
What country is being charged with genocide at the iCJ - Israel
What country is apartheid - Israel
What country is still an active colonial settler project - Israel
What country is ignoring the most UN resolutions - Israel

You got any other country that comes close to any of those totals?
Do you want to go further?

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Your invented reality. The political people say they accept Israel's offer while actually sending a different proposal just like they did last time. More importantly, it's not up to the millionaires in Qatar but Sinwar and Dief in Gaza since they are the guys with the guns.

Hamas had submitted its response to Qatari mediators, proposing amendments to the Israeli proposal, including a timeline for a permanent ceasefire and complete Israeli withdrawal from Gaza, a source with knowledge of the talks told CNN earlier on Tuesday.

More importantly, Sinwar has been exposed for what we've known all along. he doesn't want peace, he wants civilian deaths.
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You know what's really pathetic, beside your support of the genocide of Palestinians, of course?
That the US gave Israel everything it asked for in to create a UNSC ceasefire resolution and still Israel won't agree to it.

The US ceasefire plan allows Israel to continue the 'siege' or the genocide through starvation, along with allowing Israel to resume the genocide of Gaza once Hamas returns hostages.

A reminder, Israel negotiated with Hamas and 105 hostages were returned peacefully. Israel has returned 4 but killed about 50 hostages through violence.

Blinken, the ‘ultimate spinner’

This is what’s so infuriating about Secretary Blinken: He is so well-mannered, soft-spoken, very diplomatic. But when it comes to the content of what he says, he is the ultimate spinner – half facts, half truths.
He said the two proposals are virtually the same. But I will name you two important differences: One is that the Hamas proposal calls for the end of Israel’s siege; the proposal outlined by the US does not. What’s the point of this war or the past 20 years of four wars against Gaza if we’re going to go back to square one where Israel imposes a siege on Gaza? So the Hamas proposal suggested ending the Israeli siege on Gaza. This new proposal does not.
Two, there’s the key difference between a permanent and temporary ceasefire. This proposal speaks of a temporary ceasefire. Hamas presented a permanent ceasefire. The difference lies in phase two, which says that Israel will withdraw from the Gaza Strip upon the agreement of the parties – which means Israel will have to agree. And there’s every proof and demonstration that Israel does not want to end the war, and it keeps saying that this resolution will allow it to achieve its war objectives.
Blinken assures us that Israel said “Yes” to the proposal. I am not convinced. Why hasn’t Netanyahu come out and said, “I support and embrace the new Security Council resolution”? That’s the question that needs to be posed to Secretary Blinken.
 
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So you actually believe that Israeli has been running Gaza these past 20 years and not Hamas just because the UN antisemite who believes the Jews have "Subjugated America" said so? I guess word's no longer have meanings.
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Your conspiracy theory that the UN is antisemitic is fucked in the head.
The law is the law, buddy.

Will you wake up one day and wonder how you became allied with actual Nazis in the EU while you were backing genocide?
Or will you move to Argentina and try to spend the rest of your days pining for the good days when you could kill Palestinians and the world would support you?

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Frankfooter said:
You want objective proof?
What country has killed the most civilians this century - Israel
What country has killed the most children - Israel
What country has killed the most UN workers - Israel
What country has killed the most journalists - Israel
What country has dropped the most bombs on civilians - Israel
What country is lead by a guy about to get ICC war crime charges - Israel
What country is being charged with genocide at the iCJ - Israel
What country is apartheid - Israel
What country is still an active colonial settler project - Israel
What country is ignoring the most UN resolutions - Israel
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Yes, I do want proof, Geno. But all you posted were questions.

EVERY SINGLE TIME you never give direct answers. Here is another example.
 
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Frankfooter said:
The US sent in a ceasefire demand at the UNSC.
Hamas agreed, Israel hasn't.
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100% the opposite of the truth.

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Do you think zionism was a smart move for the Jewish people?
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Was there an internationally recognized state of Israel prior to Zionism?

With the claims of 35,000 dead and the suffering of the Gazans since the Oct.7 terror attack, do you think that that attack was smart? Or do you believe, like Sinwar does, that the deaths of Gazans is a good thing?

From the WSJ:

For months, Yahya Sinwar has resisted pressure to cut a ceasefire-and-hostages deal with Israel. Behind his decision, messages the Hamas military leader in Gaza has sent to mediators show, is a calculation that more fighting—and more Palestinian civilian deaths—work to his advantage.

“We have the Israelis right where we want them,” Sinwar said in a recent message to Hamas officials seeking to broker an agreement with Qatari and Egyptian officials.

He's saying they wanted all these Gazan deaths.
 
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Was there an internationally recognized state of Israel prior to Zionism?

With the claims of 35,000 dead and the suffering of the Gazans since the Oct.7 terror attack, do you think that that attack was smart? Or do you believe, like Sinwar does, that the deaths of Gazans is a good thing?

From the WSJ:

For months, Yahya Sinwar has resisted pressure to cut a ceasefire-and-hostages deal with Israel. Behind his decision, messages the Hamas military leader in Gaza has sent to mediators show, is a calculation that more fighting—and more Palestinian civilian deaths—work to his advantage.

“We have the Israelis right where we want them,” Sinwar said in a recent message to Hamas officials seeking to broker an agreement with Qatari and Egyptian officials.

He's saying they wanted all these Gazan deaths.
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Was Israel's genocidal response smart, grandpa?
Was turning zionists into the new nazis smart?

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Frankfooter said:
Was Israel's genocidal response smart, grandpa?
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No direct answer from you, as per usual.

Was there an internationally recognized State of Israel prior to Zionism?

No there was not. Zionism proved to be beneficial toward Israel.

Was Oct.7 beneficial to Gazans?
 
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Frankfooter said:
Was Israel's genocidal response smart, grandpa?
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You answer a question with a question. Please try to engage in an actual discussion. Why are you afraid of that?
 
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No direct answer from you, as per usual.

Was there an internationally recognized State of Israel prior to Zionism?

No there was not. Zionism proved to be beneficial toward Israel.

Was Oct.7 beneficial to Gazans?
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shack said:
No direct answer from you, as per usual.

Was there an internationally recognized State of Israel prior to Zionism?

No there was not. Zionism proved to be beneficial toward Israel.

Was Oct.7 beneficial to Gazans?
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There are so many questions you keep repeating. Go to your doctor, grandpa, your memory is gone.

Will there be an internationally recognized state of Israel after the genocide trial at the ICJ, grandpa?
Israel has turned the world against zionism.
Israel is a pariah state that won't abide by the ICC, ICJ, UN, UNSC or international laws.

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So I guess you don't give a shit about the UN when it makes Hamas look bad.

The UNSC resolution said hamas should accept the Israeli ceasefire offer. The people of Gaza who you pretend to care about need a ceasefire. Sadly you and Sinwar are too addicted to Palestinians deaths to accept what is good for everyone. You both would rather Palestinians continue dying than allow Israel anything positive.
 
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