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Verdict reached in Trump hush money trial

Valcazar

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And a porn star payoff isn't?
He wasn't charged with paying off a porn star.

But assuming you are actually following the thread of the conversation, paying off a porn star could well have been.
That was the point of arguing that he was actually doing it to protect Melania.
 

Valcazar

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How many times and how many ways will it take for you and fellow Trumptards to understand that he was charged and convicted of business fraud for falsifying business records.
They are determined NOT to understand that.

Had Trump just recorded it as a "shareholder loan" or "personal benefit" he wouldn't be charged.
If he had just paid it himself, it wouldn't have been a crime.
 

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If he had just paid it himself, it wouldn't have been a crime.
AFAIK a record of such a payment would have been accessible to the public as a campaign expense.
So that was not an option because it would defeat the purpose which was to keep it secret from the voters.
 

Valcazar

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What "messaging" don't I see?

That Trump's appeal lies with the people on the left side of the Bell curve and not on the right? Duhhhh...

To turn your actual words on you, "Water is Wet". Trump is the demagogue of the less intelligent and that the media reports on the most click-attracting events.

Dumb fucks adore him and intelligent people sbhotr him Duhhhh!

You have to remember that for Butler, messaging is the single most important thing about politics.
 
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Valcazar

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No it doesn't look good for the justice system when the people in charge of policing the election system fine and charge Clinton and don't charge Trump for the same crime yet Trump becomes a felon and Hillary doesn't. Does that make sense to you?
If you are determined for it not to make sense, then it will never make sense to you, no.
 

Valcazar

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It can be heard by the supreme court if there is federal or constitutional law involved . I'm pretty sure one of his lawyers will find a way to get it there
Ah.
You don't know, but you are sure they can find a way.

Fair enough.
 
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Valcazar

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They don't relate to anyone one else. I'm talking about this specific one. where Trump and Hillary committed the same crime and she was charged by the FEC and he wasn't but he is charged with a felony and she isn't. In the same state no less
How did they "commit the same crime"?

Please elaborate.
 

Valcazar

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AFAIK a record of such a payment would have been accessible to the public as a campaign expense.
So that was not an option because it would defeat the purpose which was to keep it secret from the voters.
It was an option, just not one he wanted to exercise.
And, again, if he justified it as protecting his brand and his wife, he probably would have gotten away with not reporting it because it would be considered something he would have spent money on anyway.
 

Leimonis

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It was an option, just not one he wanted to exercise.
And, again, if he justified it as protecting his brand and his wife, he probably would have gotten away with not reporting it because it would be considered something he would have spent money on anyway.
My guess is that non reporting it could draw attention to it and be disputed and discussed and it was more convenient to commit a crime to avoid attention.
 

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Here's your problem.

Trump always says people are lying about him, but Trump never takes the stand in any of these cases. He could have potentially beaten both the Cohen and Carroll testimony if he only took the stand and gave evidence.

Cohen is a hardcore sleazebag felon liar and Carroll was testifying about unwitnessed shit that went down 30 years ago and that would make her a ton of $$$$. These are beatable cases. But Pumpkinhead doesn't have the balls to take the stand.

He's a coward. He ran away from Vietnam and he flinches from testifying in court. So juries don't believe him because he doesn't back up his case by testifying.
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Valcazar

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My guess is that non reporting it could draw attention to it and be disputed and discussed and it was more convenient to commit a crime to avoid attention.
If it had come out at the right moment, it might have had an effect.
Coming out later (as it did in 2018), very few people cared.
 
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