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Gooseifur

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Here's your problem.

Trump always says people are lying about him, but Trump never takes the stand in any of these cases. He could have potentially beaten both the Cohen and Carroll testimony if he only took the stand and gave evidence.

Cohen is a hardcore sleazebag felon liar and Carroll was testifying about unwitnessed shit that went down 30 years ago and that would make her a ton of $$$$. These are beatable cases. But Pumpkinhead doesn't have the balls to take the stand.

He's a coward. He ran away from Vietnam and he flinches from testifying in court. So juries don't believe him because he doesn't back up his case by testifying.
Most defendants don't testify. From what I read he didn't testify because the questioning of him would not have been limited to this case but that they could ask him about a lot more. A no win situation.

Not to mention this was the first time this type of case was brought in New York where they used crimes passed the statures of limitations to prove another crime. There might be constitutional issue or due process issues. I don't know we will see.
 

Gooseifur

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How did they "commit the same crime"?

Please elaborate.
They both committed campaign finance laws, except Hillary Was charged by the FEC but Trump wasn't. He was only charged by New York for campaign finance violations which were passed the statute of limitations which were then used to bump it up to the felony of the false business records. 1st time ever this has been done in New York. LOL
 

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Messaging is very important in an election.
It remains not the only thing.

I know you admire Trump's messaging.
He is very good at it and he plays the press's pathology very well.
But it has also been far from a guaranteed winner.
He has lost the popular vote in both general elections, and his ability to boost other people is inconsistent at best.
Lara is more likely to get her way now, the vast majority of Repug money will now be going directly to the Trump campaign. Could turn out the Repugs wind up with the White House and Scotus, with the Dems having clear majorities in the House and Senate. Not a good posture internationally...
 

Skoob

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Once again you are pedalling misinformation with the "Genocide Joe" and now that the Democrats are "Weaponizing The Justice System" especially as Trump was found guilty of those 34 criminal charges in a Court of Law. Similar to him and his cronies losing all those Court battles about the 2020 Elections being "rigged"!! Biden has not been charged or alleged to have committed any crimes that are considered to be "genocide". But you still pedal all those blatant lies!!
Here...I'll make it simpler for you to understand, and feel free to ask your friend Frankfooter about his opinion if you don't believe me...

The UN is pursuing cases about genocide re Israel.
Biden is supporting Israel. ie "Genocide Joe"

Are the rusted wheels starting to break free yet?
 

Frankfooter

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Here...I'll make it simpler for you to understand, and feel free to ask your friend Frankfooter about his opinion if you don't believe me...

The UN is pursuing cases about genocide re Israel.
Biden is supporting Israel. ie "Genocide Joe"

Are the rusted wheels starting to break free yet?
Are you arguing that breaking the law matters now, skoob?
Are you arguing that supporting genocide, like you do, is wrong?
 

Skoob

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Are you arguing that breaking the law matters now, skoob?
Are you arguing that supporting genocide, like you do, is wrong?
Just pointing out to your girlfriend that "Genocide Joe" is actually something referring to Biden these days which he somehow has never heard of.
 

Frankfooter

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Just pointing out to your girlfriend that "Genocide Joe" is actually something referring to Biden these days which he somehow has never heard of.
Feeling a touch homophobic along with genocidal again?

Are you cheering for more fraud, rape, coup attempts or felonies with rump round II?
 

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Most defendants don't testify. From what I read he didn't testify because the questioning of him would not have been limited to this case but that they could ask him about a lot more. A no win situation.

Not to mention this was the first time this type of case was brought in New York where they used crimes passed the statures of limitations to prove another crime. There might be constitutional issue or due process issues. I don't know we will see.
He didn't testify for one very good reason: PER-JUR-REE

Donnie can't form a sentence without lying of he somehow managed to avoid perjury and contempt of court he would have gotten a hung jury. Only 1 of the 12 jurors would have to believe his lies are true. His defense team was horrible and lost right out of the gate in the opening arguments when they said they will prove that donnies little mushroom dick never went inside stormy. Cohen had Trump on tape and David pecker was the only credible witness who also said trumps intent on killing these stories was to win the election
If trump was really innocent he would ha e testified and told the truth to set the reocrf straight. Instead he just made stupid faces while he shit his pants and slept
 

Skoob

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Feeling a touch homophobic along with genocidal again?

Are you cheering for more fraud, rape, coup attempts or felonies with rump round II?
"Genocide Joe"...a term I didn't invent but is widely used these days.
btw No one supports homophobia as much as you do as proven many times.
 

kherg007

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He didn't testify for one very good reason: PER-JUR-REE

Donnie can't form a sentence without lying of he somehow managed to avoid perjury and contempt of court he would have gotten a hung jury. Only 1 of the 12 jurors would have to believe his lies are true. His defense team was horrible and lost right out of the gate in the opening arguments when they said they will prove that donnies little mushroom dick never went inside stormy. Cohen had Trump on tape and David pecker was the only credible witness who also said trumps intent on killing these stories was to win the election
If trump was really innocent he would ha e testified and told the truth to set the reocrf straight. Instead he just made stupid faces while he shit his pants and slept
The real problem is how Trump is framing it. First, he's framing it that he was not allowed to defend himself. Bullshit. He chose not to. Or, tried to do it where he could lie freely and not be cross examined (outside the courtroom or on truth social). Second, he's framing it that his witnesses were not allowed to testify. Bullshit again. Nothing stopped his attorneys from putting them on the stand. Third, the jury was rigged. Bullshit. The jury is selected by both legal teams. Not the prosecution. Fourth, he's framing the "prosecution gets to go last" as a bias. Buloshit. It is standard in all US state courts. In fact, NY is the most defendant friendly state as the majority of USA states have the order of closing arguments prosecution, defense, prosecution. NY has only defense, prosecution.

So he's actively misleading his supporters once again to make himself a victim.
 

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The real problem is how Trump is framing it. First, he's framing it that he was not allowed to defend himself. Bullshit. He chose not to. Or, tried to do it where he could lie freely and not be cross examined (outside the courtroom or on truth social). Second, he's framing it that his witnesses were not allowed to testify. Bullshit again. Nothing stopped his attorneys from putting them on the stand. Third, the jury was rigged. Bullshit. The jury is selected by both legal teams. Not the prosecution. Fourth, he's framing the "prosecution gets to go last" as a bias. Buloshit. It is standard in all US state courts. In fact, NY is the most defendant friendly state as the majority of USA states have the order of closing arguments prosecution, defense, prosecution. NY has only defense, prosecution.

So he's actively misleading his supporters once again to make himself a victim.
Does not matter all the truth about all this... some people would just not listen or admit they were wrong.

All they hear is what God Trump says and it is Biden that did all this.

Half USA are really fucked up people. And some Canadians here on this tread
 

kherg007

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Does not matter all the truth about all this... some people would just not listen or admit they were wrong.

All they hear is what God Trump says and it is Biden that did all this.

Half USA are really fucked up people. And some Canadians here on this tread
True. Now it's "the Biden DOJ" all day yesterday by the spineless weasel cowards on the talk shows, all who fail to realise it was the Trump DOJ that started the NY case and put Cohen in gaol w DJT as unindicted co-conspirator 1, moreover, "The Biden DOJ" is prosecuting Senator Menendez and Congressman Cuellar (both democrats) and Hunter Biden.
 
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Kevin O’Leary: Alvin Bragg HANDED OVER the Election to Trump, History Will Remember “History will look at this 5, 10 years from now and say, ‘How did Trump become president again?’ Alvin Bragg was the kingmaker. He did it for him. I know it sounds perverse, but that’s what he did. And so, that’s called an unintended consequence. I don’t know if he’s happy about that, but that’s how he’ll be marked in history.”
 

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Kevin O’Leary: Alvin Bragg HANDED OVER the Election to Trump, History Will Remember “History will look at this 5, 10 years from now and say, ‘How did Trump become president again?’ Alvin Bragg was the kingmaker. He did it for him. I know it sounds perverse, but that’s what he did. And so, that’s called an unintended consequence. I don’t know if he’s happy about that, but that’s how he’ll be marked in history.”
Who the fuck is Avin Bragg? And you think of Kevin O'Leary as reputable? Jesus, you are really drinking Trump kool-aid a little too much
 
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